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[Kickstarter] Mekton Zero RPG

Started by Apparition, May 23, 2013, 03:44:43 PM

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If the guy uses action figures for the art here, then he really needs to have his head examined.
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Three days in, and Mekton Zero is funded.  Not bad!

Quote from: Prophetsteve;657372I am disappointed there is no all-digital option. Don't want bookmarks, t-shirts or other swag.  Just want the pdf.

Not entirely sure what Mike P has in mind for the rules for Mekton Zero, but as a fan of his other games I am willing to give it a chance...assuming I get an all-digital option.

According to the Kickstarter page, you can select to forego the physical swag and use it as credit towards stuff in stretch goals.  Still, I agree that an actual all digital tier would be preferable.

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OK while I think he really screwed the pooch with the 3rd ed CP, this looks seriously cool. I think the criticisms that have been put forth are a bit over blown. This seems like an expanded Zeta with a setting baked in. It looks very interesting.
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Fuzion is kind of unfortunate...
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jeff37923

There is enough time left on this that I can afford to wait a couple of paydays before deciding if it is worth funding or not.
"Meh."

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Quote from: jeff37923;658009There is enough time left on this that I can afford to wait a couple of paydays before deciding if it is worth funding or not.

I think I'm in the same boat.
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The first stretch goal was announced... and it's all about the miniatures.  This made me curious, so I asked Mike Pondsmith if miniatures would be required to play Mekton Zero.  This is his answer:

QuoteIt's a lot more fun, but you can use any counter or chip instead of minis. And with the roleplaying component, often players will be out of their meks anyway.

Sounds like Mekton Zero will be on the more tactical side of things.

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I dont quite get the fuzion hate, its just another dice+stat+skill vs target system, like a whole lot of other similar systems. I like the current free version (5.02) and the cut down instant fuzion.

I asked Mike and he said this version will be some hybrid version. going to be interesting to see if he streamlines it or goes more slow-tactical with it.
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Quote from: BloodyCactus;658087I dont quite get the fuzion hate, its just another dice+stat+skill vs target system, like a whole lot of other similar systems.

Agreed
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Here's some of Mike Pondsmith's comments from the Kickstarter, for those on the fence:

QuoteQ: Are you planning on offering a PDF only pledge level?
A: We will not be offering a "digital only" pledge level. There are a number of reasons for this, first among which is that we have spent weeks (literally) balancing out pledge levels and overhead costs to make sure that all elements of this project are funded properly. Trust me--the cost of writing, editing, layout, art and so on far outweigh the costs of printing, so that even a PDF isn't "free." However, the Separate Buy ability will allow backers at the base levels to trade in unwanted items for other PDF based products in Stretch Goals to come.

Q: Are you planning any kind of PDF add-ons, such as setting materials, etc?
A: The majority of upcoming stretch goals will be in the form of Episodes, which combine new background, new missions, new characters, new teams and new mecha designs in each package. Think of them as Guides for an ongoing Mekton Zero mecha TV show. These will be PDF releases, with the option to scale up to hardcopy at later levels. Larger add-ons, like manuals and so on, will be released as part of our regularly planned M-Zero schedule.

Q: What format will the Core M-Zero book be in?
A: The Core M-Zero book will be released as a 200+ page, black and white book with a full color cover (or a matching PDF version). Further stretch goals may allow us to add full color and/or a hardcover option to this, and pretty much depend on whether we get enough interest to fund these options.

Q: Are the Dice custom and what is on them?
A: The dice are indeed custom; they are four different types of D10's, each in a different color with text and symbols engraved on them. Each allows the player to randomly roll damage as allocated on a specific type of damage table (frame hit location, specific damage location, critical damage location and special effect damage). Using them really speeds up gameplay. We'll be posting the templates for these as soon as we get the prototypes in.

Also, I will be posting my "Designer Notes" on M-Zero on the RTG website http://rtalsoriangames.wordpress.com/ starting tomorrow, in case you're interested in why we did all this and what the overall plan for Mekton is!

Brendan: Algol Zero is set in a somewhat retconned history; we needed to add a few years between the First Mekton War and the events of Rimfire--the numbers didn't work out otherwise. Assume it happens a couple of years after the Elarans throw off the Kargan Occupation and continues for roughly 20 years till the events of the first Orbital War.

I noticed that the Kickstarter seems to have a focus on miniatures, so I asked Mr. Pondsmith if Mekton Zero can be played sans miniatures.  His answer:

QuoteYes. It's a lot more fun, but you can use any counter or chip instead of minis. And with the roleplaying component, often players will be out of their meks anyway.

While I'll keep my Mekton Zero pledge at some level as I want to see the game made, I'm growing a bit wary.  I think the lack of an all digital tier is a big mistake, and I'm also not fond of the more tactical feel he seems to be aiming for.

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BTW a ton of R Talsorian stuff is on DTRPG now.  Including Falkenstein.
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Quote from: CRKrueger;658914BTW a ton of R Talsorian stuff is on DTRPG now.  Including Falkenstein.

I looked into it, it seems that they went with scans instead of digital proofs though.  I'm sure it would be fine for use copies, and I don't have one to compare with the quality of the original print run, but I'd imagine that it would suffer some with respects to the higher quality art that they put in CF.
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Apparition

For those interested, the first designer notes for Mekton Zero are up.

It makes me feel better knowing Mike Pondsmith has already written Mekton Zero and has been playing it for years.

Apparition

With four days remaining, the next two stretch goals have been announced:

QuoteAt $40,000 we'll print the Mekton Zero Core Book in Full Color to showcase our exciting art by Mark Simmons and many others!

Then, at $45,000 we'll print the book in Hard Cover for durability and stopping those random plasma bolts that come your way during your games!

Full color would be nice.

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Quote from: CRKrueger;657065It would help if Pondsmith explained what the hell he was thinking when he made Cyberpunk 3.0, just so we know he isn't insane.

Yep, because if we got a proper answer on this I might be less concerned that the artwork in the new Mekton won't consist of Punch & Judy Gundam edition action puppets. I really need reassurances like that before I'll put money down on something like this, even if I think Mike is cool as beans otherwise (he really is).