I can't, with good conscience, fund a Marxists. I won't buy from Evil Hat Productions or from The Design Mechanism. Or from Bethesda anymore.

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;900360[...] or from The Design Mechanism.

Whoa, hello there.  I backed the RQ6 Collector's Edition.  Can you elaborate?  I've never known Pete or Loz to be SJW-y.

Quote from: daniel_ream;900378Whoa, hello there.  I backed the RQ6 Collector's Edition.  Can you elaborate?  I've never known Pete or Loz to be SJW-y.

I didn't say they were SJW. And I don't care what you backed. If someone has nothing but contempt for America (or western civilization), they don't get my money. Add Varg Vikernes to that list.

Settle down, hoss.  I'm asking you to explain your motivation for not patronizing TDM.  My experience has been that Loz and Pete are largely apolitical, but if yours differs I'd like to hear about it.  You know, like a discussion and shit.

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;900360I can't, with good conscience, fund a Marxists. I won't buy from Evil Hat Productions or from The Design Mechanism. Or from Bethesda anymore.

How do you get from EHP/TDM/Bethesda to Marxists to Hate America.

I've not seen any evidence that those companies espouse Marxist beliefs or that they hate America.

Quote from: Crüesader;900356Informed consumers are the bane of bad businessfolk.

Youd like to think so. But the sad truth is that informed customers will support bad businessfolk. All so they  can get their precious game or art. Games Workshop cultists being the prime example on the game side. Seen so much worse though.

Back on topic.

If the designers views disagree with someone such that it makes them uncomfortable in handing them money then thats that. Same as I refuse to support publishers or designers I know have stolen games from others. Or that I refuse to deal with artists who rob customers. And I know a few who have been pulling that for over a decade now. I dont care how good they are or how much Id love to have some pieces done. No. Fuck no.

As for the game. The more the designers agendas creep into the game. The less interested I get. so far though it seems not to be the case? Unless I missed something?
That and toning down the creepy elements seems to be counter to the whole "stitchpunk" theme they were touting in the first place. At which point its creeping towards being a rip-off of Puppetland.

I'm a Warhammer fan, and I know well of the GW cult.  It's a hard call. I absolutely love the Warhammer-verse (both fantasy and 40k), but wow does that company crap on its customers! And they've been shitting on us for decades! I guess that's a big reason I buy most of my stuff off eBay, except for novels.

This thread makes me miss the Pre-Internet years.

I had NO IDEA about who made any games I was buying (except those I met at cons). Whether we enjoyed a game was 100% about the game, because of our ignorance about the authors.

These days? It's getting too fucking convoluted. We're at a stage where if somebody posts "I really enjoyed Game ABC", then its' "You hate [gays or freedom]! Because only a [gay or freedom] hater would buy that book because one of the 12 freelancers retweeted a [Caitlynn joke or Che poster] in 2014!!!"

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;899945What about this RPG interests you?

Nothing.  I am so not the target audience.

Quote from: Spinachcat;900436We're at a stage where if somebody posts "I really enjoyed Game ABC", then its' "You hate [gays or freedom]! Because only a [gay or freedom] hater would buy that book because one of the 12 freelancers retweeted a [Caitlynn joke or Che poster] in 2014!!!"

Purity tests! "It has come to our attention that you called your sister a 'retard' in 4th grade, you will be moved immediately to an assigned work camp."

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;900360I can't, with good conscience, fund a Marxists. I won't buy from Evil Hat Productions or from The Design Mechanism. Or from Bethesda anymore.

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;900380I didn't say they were SJW. And I don't care what you backed. If someone has nothing but contempt for America (or western civilization), they don't get my money. Add Varg Vikernes to that list.

What the hell did Loz and Pete ever do to get hit with the American-Hating Marxist tag?  Live in other country?

Loz is Canadian, and hating the US is kind of the national pastime up here.

Quote from: daniel_ream;900472Loz is Canadian, and hating the US is kind of the national pastime up here.

Which makes me laugh when the population of my town triples with blue-haired snowbirds, many of them from U.S. Lite.

Quote from: CRKrueger;900464What the hell did Loz and Pete ever do to get hit with the American-Hating Marxist tag?  Live in other country?

Yes.

Quote from: CRKrueger;900464What the hell did Loz and Pete ever do to get hit with the American-Hating Marxist tag?  Live in other country?

They had a video, around the time of their RQ6 announcement, which they have since taken down. It showed their true colors. I would have pre-ordered the game if I never saw the video.

Quote from: Simlasa;900445Purity tests! "It has come to our attention that you called your sister a 'retard' in 4th grade, you will be moved immediately to an assigned work camp."

Ha!

Quote from: Alderaan Crumbs;900485Which makes me laugh when the population of my town triples with blue-haired snowbirds, many of them from U.S. Lite.

Try not to take it too seriously.  It's the result of a massive nationwide inferiority complex.

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;900506They had a video, around the time of their RQ6 announcement, which they have since taken down. It showed their true colors. I would have pre-ordered the game if I never saw the video.

...but you're not going to tell us what was in the video, or link to a copy or anything.  Jesus, dude.  I know this place tends to dogpile you for no reason, but you're not giving the rest of us any reason to lend credence to anything you say.