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Title: Katanas & Trenchcoats lunacy
Post by: Batjon on May 15, 2022, 02:53:50 AM
So, after backing this game on Kickstarter like over 5 years ago, because I'm a huge Highlander fan and, after enduring the dev's utter disregard and outright apathy toward the backers for years, oftentimes arguing with them and calling them names for having the goal of actually wanting a return on their investment toward this game, the final PDF has at last been sent to backers.

And this complete idiocy is just inside the cover that makes me want a refund even more:

Title: Re: Katanas & Trenchcoats lunacy
Post by: Rob Necronomicon on May 15, 2022, 06:53:38 AM
Quote from: Batjon on May 15, 2022, 02:53:50 AM
So, after backing this game on Kickstarter like over 5 years ago, because I'm a huge Highlander fan and, after enduring the dev's utter disregard and outright apathy toward the backers for years, oftentimes arguing with them and calling them names for having the goal of actually wanting a return on their investment toward this game, the final PDF has at last been sent to backers.

And this complete idiocy is just inside the cover that makes me want a refund even more:

They could have ticked a few more boxes if you ask me and I do love it when people tell other people how to think.

And in fact, I'd print out that list and have it beside me while I played a game about chopping people's heads off and then leeched their power.


EDIT: And these useless fools were supposed to deliver the game in 2016?? Only 6 years late! Pathetic...
Title: Re: Katanas & Trenchcoats lunacy
Post by: jeff37923 on May 15, 2022, 08:15:33 AM
Add them to the Woke Companies list.
Title: Re: Katanas & Trenchcoats lunacy
Post by: Godsmonkey on May 15, 2022, 09:25:46 AM
Quote from: jeff37923 on May 15, 2022, 08:15:33 AM
Add them to the Woke Companies list.

Towards the front of the line even.
Title: Re: Katanas & Trenchcoats lunacy
Post by: Trond on May 15, 2022, 11:24:33 AM
Dang, I think that must be the highest concentration of woke BS I have seen in a single game (single page even) in a good while.
Title: Re: Katanas & Trenchcoats lunacy
Post by: zircher on May 15, 2022, 11:59:34 AM
It also sounds like a dare.  "Hey gang, how many of these points can you stomp on or twist?"

Title: Re: Katanas & Trenchcoats lunacy
Post by: BoxCrayonTales on May 15, 2022, 01:41:03 PM
"Feminism benefits men"? Men's issues are a separate issue that are men's responsibility to solve, not women's. Feminism exists to benefit women, not men. The other idiotic line of thinking is why democrats now refer to women as "birthing bodies." Fucking hypocritical misogynistic pigs.
Title: Re: Katanas & Trenchcoats lunacy
Post by: Visitor Q on May 15, 2022, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 15, 2022, 06:53:38 AM
Quote from: Batjon on May 15, 2022, 02:53:50 AM
So, after backing this game on Kickstarter like over 5 years ago, because I'm a huge Highlander fan and, after enduring the dev's utter disregard and outright apathy toward the backers for years, oftentimes arguing with them and calling them names for having the goal of actually wanting a return on their investment toward this game, the final PDF has at last been sent to backers.

And this complete idiocy is just inside the cover that makes me want a refund even more:

EDIT: And these useless fools were supposed to deliver the game in 2016?? Only 6 years late! Pathetic...

This is very racist(?) of you towards the chronologically challenged. Tardiness is just a neo-Imperialist construct designed to etc etc..... ;)
Title: Re: Katanas & Trenchcoats lunacy
Post by: Tait Ransom on May 15, 2022, 09:27:44 PM
Being a Highlander fan, I was kind of bummed about missing out on it.  After it was so late, I figured I dodged a bullet.  Looks like I was right.
Title: Re: Katanas & Trenchcoats lunacy
Post by: Batjon on May 15, 2022, 10:36:24 PM
Quote from: Tait Ransom on May 15, 2022, 09:27:44 PM
Being a Highlander fan, I was kind of bummed about missing out on it.  After it was so late, I figured I dodged a bullet.  Looks like I was right.

That is what I backed it for was doing Highlander. It is what I'll use it for till this comes out: https://www.evilgeniusgames.com/highlander (https://www.evilgeniusgames.com/highlander)
Title: Re: Katanas & Trenchcoats lunacy
Post by: Tantavalist on May 16, 2022, 09:20:54 AM
I hate it when a game slaps something like this at the start. I cling to the increasingly outdated view that RPGs should be about throwing dice for the purpose of escapist fantasy fun, not for having more of the same stuff you talk about for the rest of the week.

"A fanatic is someone who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."

I agree with most of the statements made there and I'm still going to avoid this just on the principle I gave above. (And also from a dislike of people who take backer's money then act like they're victims when those backers expect something in return.)
Title: Re: Katanas & Trenchcoats lunacy
Post by: BoxCrayonTales on May 16, 2022, 12:11:16 PM
Quote from: Tantavalist on May 16, 2022, 09:20:54 AM
I hate it when a game slaps something like this at the start. I cling to the increasingly outdated view that RPGs should be about throwing dice for the purpose of escapist fantasy fun, not for having more of the same stuff you talk about for the rest of the week.

"A fanatic is someone who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."

I agree with most of the statements made there and I'm still going to avoid this just on the principle I gave above. (And also from a dislike of people who take backer's money then act like they're victims when those backers expect something in return.)
Yeah, I also agree with most of the statements but I also don't feel it's appropriate to shoehorn your partisan politics into your game and attack potential buyers for not joining your cult.
Title: Re: Katanas & Trenchcoats lunacy
Post by: Batjon on May 16, 2022, 01:07:27 PM
I disagree with nearly all of the pretentious statments.
Title: Re: Katanas & Trenchcoats lunacy
Post by: Rob Necronomicon on May 16, 2022, 01:30:59 PM
Quote from: Batjon on May 16, 2022, 01:07:27 PM
I disagree with nearly all of the pretentious statments.

I agree with you, that they are very pretentious and insipid for presenting their 'manifesto' in an RPG elf game. Like they have a right to tell me (or anyone else for that matter) how we should live.

However, back in the real world, I agree with most of their sentiments with certain caveats. For one, my definition of feminism is not the one they are dropping. That's some third-wave shit. Neurodiversity and life symphonies?? LOL

Trying to 'drop their views' is one thing but in a game is exceedingly childish. It's like someone shoving a bible or Quran at you while you are out and about and minding your own business.

Title: Re: Katanas & Trenchcoats lunacy
Post by: pdboddy on May 16, 2022, 02:26:03 PM
Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on May 15, 2022, 01:41:03 PM
"Feminism benefits men"? Men's issues are a separate issue that are men's responsibility to solve, not women's. Feminism exists to benefit women, not men. The other idiotic line of thinking is why democrats now refer to women as "birthing bodies." Fucking hypocritical misogynistic pigs.

Surely you mean "birthingbodism" and not feminism?  :P

The upside to the sudden uptick of abortion/anti-abortion activism is that women are actually women again.
Title: Re: Katanas & Trenchcoats lunacy
Post by: BoxCrayonTales on May 16, 2022, 02:29:11 PM
Quote from: pdboddy on May 16, 2022, 02:26:03 PM
Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on May 15, 2022, 01:41:03 PM
"Feminism benefits men"? Men's issues are a separate issue that are men's responsibility to solve, not women's. Feminism exists to benefit women, not men. The other idiotic line of thinking is why democrats now refer to women as "birthing bodies." Fucking hypocritical misogynistic pigs.

Surely you mean "birthingbodism" and not feminism?  :P

The upside to the sudden uptick of abortion/anti-abortion activism is that women are actually women again.
I hold generally center-left values but I'm constantly embarrassed by the Democrats' misogyny and racism.
Title: Re: Katanas & Trenchcoats lunacy
Post by: rytrasmi on May 16, 2022, 02:58:59 PM
What other form of writing is infected with this kind of virtue signaling prologue? Do we see nonsense like this in other forms of entertainment? Imagine going to a movie, scarfing down some buttery popcorn, and having something like this appear before the opening credits.

It doesn't matter if I agree or disagree with the substance if it. It's preachy and stops me from taking the work seriously.
Title: Re: Katanas & Trenchcoats lunacy
Post by: pdboddy on May 16, 2022, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on May 16, 2022, 02:29:11 PM
I hold generally center-left values but I'm constantly embarrassed by the Democrats' misogyny and racism.

The crazies (on all sides) are running the place while the 'silent majority' fiddles as the world burns.