I would hope everyone reads "march to the sea" as obvious satire. Purging large swaths of America because some college kids wear masks and assault people is clearly not a reasonable proposition.

If you do hold that position, you either need therapy or to unplug from the internet for awhile.

Quote from: Rhedyn;1076050I would hope everyone reads "march to the sea" as obvious satire. Purging large swaths of America because some college kids wear masks and assault people is clearly not a reasonable proposition.

If you do hold that position, you either need therapy or to unplug from the internet for awhile.

Yes, it was obvious satire.

David "Olivia" Hill is a scumbag, but he doesn't deserve to die. He just needs to shut the fuck up

Quote from: kythri;1076014Have you been ignoring all of the media coming out of Portland?  As an Oregonian, I can assure you, the leadership at the city (Portland) level and the state level support the violence that is antifa, and they are unwilling to suppress it.
Antifa is, by and large, a bunch of whiny white kids.  Not a minority group.

That's about right, and they are also cross-pollinated into several different movements and organizations, using them for cover.

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1076042Doc Sammy is the one talking about using the extremely blunt force of an armed military intervention against American citizens.  He's wholesale abandoning any ideology of proportionate response - obviously because he doesn't like those people.  The whole point of due process is that it protects people who you don't like.  Maybe you could learn something about what happens when people think they are serving 'justice' without it.

Or maybe you could, since the antifa are actually the only people already doing this. They literally advocate and execute physical violence against people they don't like. Now. Already happening. Right before our eyes here in Portland.

Quote from: Zalman;1076054Or maybe you could, since the antifa are actually the only people already doing this. They literally advocate and execute physical violence against people they don't like. Now. Already happening. Right before our eyes here in Portland.

Just because you hit multiple people in the head with a bicycle lock doesn't mean you're a criminal. Geeze.

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1076047Once again, Godwin's Law is invoked! Typical of an SJW with no real argument, just moral platitudes.

If you can invoke Germany in 1933, then I can invoke Russia in 1917!

And I do believe in Due Process. Your Antifa buddies don't.

Let's do this...  You've made the claim that the United States Military should start a 'second march to the sea' multiple times.  You've made it before talking about Japan deporting Olivia to the United States; you've suggested it after talking about Japan deporting Olivia to the United States.  Obviously it is an inappropriate response to any sane adult, but I have no reason to believe that you qualify as one.  Further, I'm CERTAIN that not everyone that discusses RPGs is an adult and I'm fairly convinced that there are some that could not qualify as sane.  It's not satire when you suggest excessive tactics to accomplish your own aims - it's satire when you suggest excessive tactics to lampoon the types of things you're doing.  When you say 'every anti-fa should be tried for treason', it is satire if I suggest a march to the sea.  If you say 'march to the sea' there's nowhere left to go for satire.  Your methods are so monstrous that there is nothing someone could use to make you look crazy and overzealous.  That takes WORK.  

No, I don't think that was satire.  And if it was supposed to be, your repeated calls for it without any indication that you disavow the method is further suspect.  If you have a problem with the anit-fa, perhaps you should suggest what you actually want to see happen.  I'm pretty news savvy and I'm not going to use 'he started it' as some type of justification; people who break laws should go to jail.  Peaceful protests don't qualify.  Having someone join your peaceful protest who then starts a physical confrontation (whether they're actually associated with your organization or a 'false-flag operation'), they, as individuals should be held accountable and punished.  You can't demand that people who share your ideology be absolved of their crimes because they share your ideology - that becomes a double-standard and that is the biggest problem here.  

@Doc Sammy, you once again made a reading fail.  I didn't bring up the Holocaust or Hitler.  I didn't bring up Germany in 1933.  The website I linked was for a memorial to victims of lynchings primarily in the American South (where I live).  My 'moral platitudes' are not based on actions that happened one time in one place more than a half century ago.

Guys clearly deadDMwalking is a shit sjw troll with no life.  He is not even worth having a conversation.

@Doc Sammy sorry about what happen to you and your brother.  Identity politics is cancer which it is designed to break down and separate people.

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1076060Let's do this...  You've made the claim that the United States Military should start a 'second march to the sea' multiple times.  You've made it before talking about Japan deporting Olivia to the United States; you've suggested it after talking about Japan deporting Olivia to the United States.  Obviously it is an inappropriate response to any sane adult, but I have no reason to believe that you qualify as one.  Further, I'm CERTAIN that not everyone that discusses RPGs is an adult and I'm fairly convinced that there are some that could not qualify as sane.  It's not satire when you suggest excessive tactics to accomplish your own aims - it's satire when you suggest excessive tactics to lampoon the types of things you're doing.  When you say 'every anti-fa should be tried for treason', it is satire if I suggest a march to the sea.  If you say 'march to the sea' there's nowhere left to go for satire.  Your methods are so monstrous that there is nothing someone could use to make you look crazy and overzealous.  That takes WORK.  

No, I don't think that was satire.  And if it was supposed to be, your repeated calls for it without any indication that you disavow the method is further suspect.  If you have a problem with the anit-fa, perhaps you should suggest what you actually want to see happen.  I'm pretty news savvy and I'm not going to use 'he started it' as some type of justification; people who break laws should go to jail.  Peaceful protests don't qualify.  Having someone join your peaceful protest who then starts a physical confrontation (whether they're actually associated with your organization or a 'false-flag operation'), they, as individuals should be held accountable and punished.  You can't demand that people who share your ideology be absolved of their crimes because they share your ideology - that becomes a double-standard and that is the biggest problem here.  

@Doc Sammy, you once again made a reading fail.  I didn't bring up the Holocaust or Hitler.  I didn't bring up Germany in 1933.  The website I linked was for a memorial to victims of lynchings primarily in the American South (where I live).  My 'moral platitudes' are not based on actions that happened one time in one place more than a half century ago.

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Quote from: Snowman0147;1075979That is not up to us now isn't it?  The first shot in the up coming civil war will most likely come from Antifa as they want to be violent.

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1076024I have used my legal first amendment rights to speak out against Antifa and other authoritarians, and yes, I have been physically assaulted for it in the past, by my own brother no less!...And I'm not in my fifties, I'm twenty-five, thank you very much! Now, if you will excuse me, I have a campaign setting to work on and promote

And I assume you and your brother are both still living at your parents house while you beat each other up, unsuccessfuly sue each other, and write amateur D&D campaign settings?

Mistwell:  You got a good source for some black hoods?  They're all sold out in Portland.

Quote from: Snowman0147;1076066Guys clearly deadDMwalking is a shit sjw troll with no life.  He is not even worth having a conversation.

This is an excellent example of Poisoning the Well.

Saying someone 'has no life' hasn't been an effective insult since 9th grade.  I don't know what you would consider 'no life', but I don't mind sharing.  I'm turning 40 this year.  I work for a large bank and I earned $75k last year; my wife has a PhD and made the same amount of money.  Together, we have a combined income of ~$150k.  It puts us pretty comfortable, but the money doesn't go as far as you think.  We have three girls, the youngest is 3 and it costs us ~$800/month for daycare.  We also have a car payment and student debt; our house (~300k square feet) costs us about $1k/month.  There's insurance and a car payment and utilities, but that still leaves some money left over to do fun things.  We can travel some - this year we'll be spending a week in Arizona and a week in Cape Cod.  I enjoy playing role playing games, and I definitely enjoy talking about RPGs online far more than I should.  I have a regular group that meets on Sunday afternoons via Google Hangouts.  I'm currently running the campaign, but I had been a player for a long time before starting my current campaign a few weeks ago.  We'll be having the third session this Sunday.  Most of the time I'm not spending on work or D&D goes to the family.  Sometimes it feels like I've surrendered my life with taking kids to Girl Scouts or karate and trying to get to the gym, but I enjoy myself.  This Saturday I'll be playing poker with work friends.  I don't know if he's still around, but I've met Jeff from these boards one time a few years ago - I don't think he'd be able to confirm all of this is true, but I'm sure he could confirm that I am an adult male; I know he saw at least two of my girls - maybe all three - and that I actually exist.

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1076071This is an excellent example of Poisoning the Well.

Saying someone 'has no life' hasn't been an effective insult since 9th grade.  I don't know what you would consider 'no life', but I don't mind sharing.  I'm turning 40 this year.  I work for a large bank and I earned $75k last year; my wife has a PhD and made the same amount of money.  Together, we have a combined income of ~$150k.  It puts us pretty comfortable, but the money doesn't go as far as you think.  We have three girls, the youngest is 3 and it costs us ~$800/month for daycare.  We also have a car payment and student debt; our house (~300k square feet) costs us about $1k/month.  There's insurance and a car payment and utilities, but that still leaves some money left over to do fun things.  We can travel some - this year we'll be spending a week in Arizona and a week in Cape Cod.  I enjoy playing role playing games, and I definitely enjoy talking about RPGs online far more than I should.  I have a regular group that meets on Sunday afternoons via Google Hangouts.  I'm currently running the campaign, but I had been a player for a long time before starting my current campaign a few weeks ago.  We'll be having the third session this Sunday.  Most of the time I'm not spending on work or D&D goes to the family.  Sometimes it feels like I've surrendered my life with taking kids to Girl Scouts or karate and trying to get to the gym, but I enjoy myself.  This Saturday I'll be playing poker with work friends.  I don't know if he's still around, but I've met Jeff from these boards one time a few years ago - I don't think he'd be able to confirm all of this is true, but I'm sure he could confirm that I am an adult male; I know he saw at least two of my girls - maybe all three - and that I actually exist.

I'll take "Shit that didn't happen" for $500

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1076071This is an excellent example of Poisoning the Well.

Saying someone 'has no life' hasn't been an effective insult since 9th grade.  I don't know what you would consider 'no life', but I don't mind sharing.  I'm turning 40 this year.  I work for a large bank and I earned $75k last year; my wife has a PhD and made the same amount of money.  Together, we have a combined income of ~$150k.  It puts us pretty comfortable, but the money doesn't go as far as you think.  We have three girls, the youngest is 3 and it costs us ~$800/month for daycare.  We also have a car payment and student debt; our house (~300k square feet) costs us about $1k/month.  There's insurance and a car payment and utilities, but that still leaves some money left over to do fun things.  We can travel some - this year we'll be spending a week in Arizona and a week in Cape Cod.  I enjoy playing role playing games, and I definitely enjoy talking about RPGs online far more than I should.  I have a regular group that meets on Sunday afternoons via Google Hangouts.  I'm currently running the campaign, but I had been a player for a long time before starting my current campaign a few weeks ago.  We'll be having the third session this Sunday.  Most of the time I'm not spending on work or D&D goes to the family.  Sometimes it feels like I've surrendered my life with taking kids to Girl Scouts or karate and trying to get to the gym, but I enjoy myself.  This Saturday I'll be playing poker with work friends.  I don't know if he's still around, but I've met Jeff from these boards one time a few years ago - I don't think he'd be able to confirm all of this is true, but I'm sure he could confirm that I am an adult male; I know he saw at least two of my girls - maybe all three - and that I actually exist.

Hahahaahaha

HAHAHAHAHAA

Seriously, what a fucking loser to post this nonsense. "My mom says I'm handsome."

LOfuckingL

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1076071This is an excellent example of Poisoning the Well.

Your own link contradicts your supposition.

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1076060The website I linked was for a memorial to victims of lynchings primarily in the American South (where I live).  My 'moral platitudes' are not based on actions that happened one time in one place more than a half century ago.

So they're based on actions that happened more than a full century ago, got it!

Quote from: WikipediaLynchings were most frequent from 1890 to the 1920s, with a peak in 1892.

Oh wait, you're referring to Jussie Smollett, huh?

This whole thread has been very illustrative of exactly the sort of mental gymnastics people perform in order to justify vilifying others without any evidence. These people are certain that both the legal system (Smollett) and the free market (WoTC) are down with their bigoted caste system of morality where righteousness is dependent on class, race, and gender. It's a good way to go out of business, or to go to jail.