Quote from: Spinachcat;1075998And I agree with the socketpuppet above with 1 post, you should absolutely go nuclear and Release the Mearls Emails!!

yee haw

Quote from: RPGPundit;1075939So Zak S's business associate and fake-feminist Daniel Fox continues to try to distract from his own deep connections to Zak by claiming now that I have tried to "blackmail" Mike Mearls, and misrepresenting the notion that I'm "threatening" Wizards. All the little Stalinists have come out to Reddit to demand I be Unpersoned.

All this to hide the fact that he was collaborting with Zak in spite of Zak's very well-known previous reputation. Disgusting.

Idk about that thread. It seems pretty much half hate you, but most of them want whatever you have released anyways because they care more about going after Mearls than people they think are "conservative".

I think in their minds, being a known "conservative" is already "unpersoned" and little further effort is required.

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1075960Certainly if you liked America you would uphold her Constitution; to use Federal troops against protesters you would have to first show how the state(s) 'unable or unwilling to suppress violence that is in opposition to the constitutional rights of the people'.

Have you been ignoring all of the media coming out of Portland?  As an Oregonian, I can assure you, the leadership at the city (Portland) level and the state level support the violence that is antifa, and they are unwilling to suppress it.

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1075960Failure to do so would put you in violation of The Posse Comitatus Act.  And of course, even if you went that far, a true conservative would be justifiably frightened by the use of federal power against any minority group.

Antifa is, by and large, a bunch of whiny white kids.  Not a minority group.

Quote from: kythri;1076014Have you been ignoring all of the media coming out of Portland?  As an Oregonian, I can assure you, the leadership at the city (Portland) level and the state level support the violence that is antifa, and they are unwilling to suppress it.



Antifa is, by and large, a bunch of whiny white kids.  Not a minority group.

This dude gets it.

And for any SJW's out here who wish to oppose the Second March To The Sea or any lurkers from RPG.net, I present to you the following...

Bart Simpson Against Antifa
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Wow, this thread is really bringing out the nutbars. March to the sea? Bring out the army? LOL. I can just imagine overweight, wheezy 50-something dudes typing this stuff with nicotine-stained fingers. Peering out their shutters at night conjuring phantasms of Antifa hordes rampaging through the streets.

Quote from: Snowman0147;1075973Yeah your full of shit.  You are defending people who are more than happy to destroy the first amendment.  They literally go out to beat people up just to intimidate others from speaking.  They are evil and deserve to have the army to stomp on their asses.

First of all, it's 'you're', not 'your'. That's not just me being pedantic, if you want your ideas to merit consideration you have to appear to have greater intellectual rigor than the typical 4th grader.  

Secondly, an argument that 'someone is going to do something bad, so I'm going to do something worse BEFORE THEY DO IT' is absolutely the worst way to structure a society.  You're literally calling for thought police.  Regarding the First Amendment, I see it 'defended' in a lot of incorrect ways.  Like, what does it mean to you that the Government can't prohibit your free speech?  Do you think it means that everyone else owes you a platform?  

Thirdly, Facism is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy.  Claiming that someone is both anti-fascist but also fascist is a little bizarre.  How can you be both at the same time?  Or are you saying that their opponents REALLY ARE trying to forcibly suppress them and they're justified to use the same tactics?  Or are you really saying that those tactics are only allowed when people you like do it?  

Here's what I'll say - I've been away from these boards for a while but you (@Snowman0147 and @Doc Sammy) are the biggest pair of pussies I've ever encountered.  If you have a problem with someone and your response is 'someone should beat them up for me', that's being a pussy.  Grow a pair and deal with the issue yourself using legal means including your first amendment right to say what you want to say.  And if you're willing to put your face in front of a fist, I'll be right there standing by you when you get the bastard that assaulted you thrown in jail.  

Tying this back to gaming, scorching the earth BEFORE YOUR OPPONENT HAS DONE ANYTHING WRONG is a problem.  That's why I don't think the consultants should have their credits removed.  I would be curious to know what agreement was made regarding granting credit; WotC may be firmly within their legal right (I don't know - I didn't see the agreement), but nobody is all good or all bad.  If Zak S had invented the smoke alarm, I wouldn't refuse to use it because he's a piece of shit.  Of course, if he invented a piece of shit, I wouldn't use it just because I liked him, either.  In this case, I think he's an ass in general, and I don't like his game-work, either.  I do think he probably has brought people into the hobby and I can see why people would find gaming with porn stars fascinating.  I don't think that associating with adult actresses or prostitutes is indicative of a poor moral standard - even Jesus did that!  Refusing to treat people as people is bad; but that's no reason that his actions shouldn't be discussed or have consequences.

Quote from: Aglondir;1075928What kind of adventures work best? I only played 4E a few times, I assumed it was designed for dungeon crawls.

Adventures with two, maybe three combat encounters in a session, where those combats have real importance and dramatic consequence. So more plot-driven games.

WotC never gets the adventures aligned with the system. When they had a system geared towards relatively few but highly dramatic and cinematic combats, they released combat-dense dungeon adventures. Now that they have a system geared for lots of attritional combats, they're publishing epic plot-driven campaigns. I firmly believe Keep on the Shadowfell and Thunderspire Labyrinth are best suited to 5E, while Curse of Strahd and Waterdeep Dragon Heist would play better with 4E.

Quote from: Haffrung;1076021Adventures with two, maybe three combat encounters in a session, where those combats have real importance and dramatic consequence. So more plot-driven games.

That's how our "good" homebrew 3e campaigns worked. I've never really liked the Paizo APs because they kill a lot of time with time waster fights and extremely contrived dungeons that never seemed to fit a mildly optimized 3e group or a mildly optimized Pathfinder group.

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1076018First of all, it's 'you're', not 'your'. That's not just me being pedantic, if you want your ideas to merit consideration you have to appear to have greater intellectual rigor than the typical 4th grader.  

Secondly, an argument that 'someone is going to do something bad, so I'm going to do something worse BEFORE THEY DO IT' is absolutely the worst way to structure a society.  You're literally calling for thought police.  Regarding the First Amendment, I see it 'defended' in a lot of incorrect ways.  Like, what does it mean to you that the Government can't prohibit your free speech?  Do you think it means that everyone else owes you a platform?  

Thirdly, Facism is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy.  Claiming that someone is both anti-fascist but also fascist is a little bizarre.  How can you be both at the same time?  Or are you saying that their opponents REALLY ARE trying to forcibly suppress them and they're justified to use the same tactics?  Or are you really saying that those tactics are only allowed when people you like do it?  

Here's what I'll say - I've been away from these boards for a while but you (@Snowman0147 and @Doc Sammy) are the biggest pair of pussies I've ever encountered.  If you have a problem with someone and your response is 'someone should beat them up for me', that's being a pussy.  Grow a pair and deal with the issue yourself using legal means including your first amendment right to say what you want to say.  And if you're willing to put your face in front of a fist, I'll be right there standing by you when you get the bastard that assaulted you thrown in jail.  

Tying this back to gaming, scorching the earth BEFORE YOUR OPPONENT HAS DONE ANYTHING WRONG is a problem.  That's why I don't think the consultants should have their credits removed.  I would be curious to know what agreement was made regarding granting credit; WotC may be firmly within their legal right (I don't know - I didn't see the agreement), but nobody is all good or all bad.  If Zak S had invented the smoke alarm, I wouldn't refuse to use it because he's a piece of shit.  Of course, if he invented a piece of shit, I wouldn't use it just because I liked him, either.  In this case, I think he's an ass in general, and I don't like his game-work, either.  I do think he probably has brought people into the hobby and I can see why people would find gaming with porn stars fascinating.  I don't think that associating with adult actresses or prostitutes is indicative of a poor moral standard - even Jesus did that!  Refusing to treat people as people is bad; but that's no reason that his actions shouldn't be discussed or have consequences.

I have used my legal first amendment rights to speak out against Antifa and other authoritarians, and yes, I have been physically assaulted for it in the past, by my own brother no less!

My brother is a member of Antifa (in fact, he is an Antifa ringleader here in Roanoke, VA) and when I pressed charges against him, the court case kept getting delayed and was eventually dismissed.

That was in Virginia, a swing state that had a history of being a conservative stronghold prior to the early 2000's. Imagine if this happened in a place where Antifa actually has sway over local governments and the university systems like Portland, Seattle, Brooklyn, or Berkeley.

Antifa is a terrorist group and a threat to our very freedoms, including both the First Amendment and the Second Amendment. And unlike the Nazi assholes, Antifa is largely unimpeded in their efforts at terrorism and tyranny.

THAT is why I am advocating for a Second March To The Sea!

And I'm not in my fifties, I'm twenty-five, thank you very much!

Now, if you will excuse me, I have a campaign setting to work on and promote

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1076024when I pressed charges against him, the court case kept getting delayed and was eventually dismissed.

And yet these forums are very supportive of due legal process before responding to allegations.  It's almost like the legal system can't always be replied on to address problems of violence, especially when there is a lot of difficulty in both proving that it happened (you could have punched yourself) or that a specific individual did it (it could have been any of the people he leads, not him).  With so much plausible deniability, maybe demanding police involvement/convictions isn't a reasonable standard?  

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1076024THAT is why I am advocating for a Second March To The Sea!

That's reprehensible.  Even if there were large numbers of violent protesters (there's not) who were eager to dismantle our civil protections (they're not) and you were certain the military would eliminate them all (they wouldn't), there are still a lot of Americans who share your political views who would get hurt, too.  How many innocent people are you willing to hurt to get one guilty person?  

Don't give me any crap about SJWs going after the wrong people if you're vociferously advocating it yourself.  What a obvious hypocritical double standard.  
 

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1076024And I'm not in my fifties, I'm twenty-five, thank you very much!

You do not appear to be responding to anything I wrote.

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1076030And yet these forums are very supportive of due legal process before responding to allegations.  It's almost like the legal system can't always be replied on to address problems of violence, especially when there is a lot of difficulty in both proving that it happened (you could have punched yourself) or that a specific individual did it (it could have been any of the people he leads, not him).  With so much plausible deniability, maybe demanding police involvement/convictions isn't a reasonable standard?  




That's reprehensible.  Even if there were large numbers of violent protesters (there's not) who were eager to dismantle our civil protections (they're not) and you were certain the military would eliminate them all (they wouldn't), there are still a lot of Americans who share your political views who would get hurt, too.  How many innocent people are you willing to hurt to get one guilty person?  

Don't give me any crap about SJWs going after the wrong people if you're vociferously advocating it yourself.  What a obvious hypocritical double standard.  

This is not a hypocritical double standard. This is war and the Commies have already fired the first shot.

No time for moral grandstanding, desperate times call for desperate measures!

Wow, what a shitshow this guy is ...

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1076018Secondly, an argument that 'someone is going to do something bad ...

Eh, no they're already doing it. Not sure where you got the idea that anyone is claiming something is "going" to happen. The antifa ARE the thought police (or so they believe).

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1076018Claiming that someone is both anti-fascist but also fascist is a little bizarre.  How can you be both at the same time?

No one is saying they're both. They're fascists, plain and simple. The only one calling them "anti-fascists" is themselves. Everyone else thinks its ironic.

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1076018deal with the issue yourself using legal means including your first amendment right to say what you want to say

Except that the Portland government shuts down any attempt to do so. And they keep arresting the guys with the faces getting punched, instead of the guys with the fists punching them.

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1076018Refusing to treat people as people is bad; but that's no reason that his actions shouldn't be discussed or have consequences.

Right, or even stuff he never did at all, just because you hate him. Due process is only for people you like, right?

I don't trust your ability to accurately determine appropriate targets.  'Everyone on the West Coast' would be inappropriate even if your accusations were justified.  But what you're really arguing for is radicalizing your opponent.  If I didn't shoot you, but I hear you are threatening to shoot me, what choice do I have now?  Once you advocate for violence or extermination, at least if your threat is credible, you provide a legal defense for self protection.

Quote from: Zalman;1076035Right, or even stuff he never did at all, just because you hate him. Due process is only for people you like, right?

No, due process is for crimes and is for everyone.  

There's a lot of bullshit that I won't accept that falls well short of criminal activity.  If someone is an asshole I can call them an asshole.  Zak is an asshole.  I know he's an asshole.  I don't need a court of law to confirm he is an asshole.  

Now, is he a rapist?  I don't know.  There appears to be a plausible allegation made by a witness, but the purported victim isn't making the allegation.  I think treating him as a rapist (ie, putting him in jail) wouldn't be appropriate without due process.  But I don't think that I should have to associate with him just because I'm not SURE that he did it.  

Doc Sammy is the one talking about using the extremely blunt force of an armed military intervention against American citizens.  He's wholesale abandoning any ideology of proportionate response - obviously because he doesn't like those people.  The whole point of due process is that it protects people who you don't like.  Maybe you could learn something about what happens when people think they are serving 'justice' without it.

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1076042No, due process is for crimes and is for everyone.  

There's a lot of bullshit that I won't accept that falls well short of criminal activity.  If someone is an asshole I can call them an asshole.  Zak is an asshole.  I know he's an asshole.  I don't need a court of law to confirm he is an asshole.  

Now, is he a rapist?  I don't know.  There appears to be a plausible allegation made by a witness, but the purported victim isn't making the allegation.  I think treating him as a rapist (ie, putting him in jail) wouldn't be appropriate without due process.  But I don't think that I should have to associate with him just because I'm not SURE that he did it.  

Doc Sammy is the one talking about using the extremely blunt force of an armed military intervention against American citizens.  He's wholesale abandoning any ideology of proportionate response - obviously because he doesn't like those people.  The whole point of due process is that it protects people who you don't like.  Maybe you could learn something about what happens when people think they are serving 'justice' without it.

Once again, Godwin's Law is invoked! Typical of an SJW with no real argument, just moral platitudes.

If you can invoke Germany in 1933, then I can invoke Russia in 1917!

And I do believe in Due Process. Your Antifa buddies don't.