Quote from: Rhedyn;10758525e at least came with the benefit that you could run 0e-2e modules on easy mode with it.

I thought I was the only one did that!

I got my start in 5e running converted Dyson's Delve (BX/LL) & Caverns of Thracia (3e version). Not having too much of a revolving door of dead PCs was a definite plus.

Edit: This thread seems to have drifted into talking about RPGs?! :eek:

This made me laugh:

Quote from: Simlasa;1075605I tangled with him once when I ran across him declaring Pundit a racist. I'm no fan of Pundit but I stopped to ask what evidence they had... little did I know that asking for evidence/proof would make me immediately suspect. So he and his posse dogpiled me... declaring no proof was necessary and it was somehow 'victim blaming' to ask.

Quote from: SHARK;1075674Greetings!

What? Snowman needs to *prove* that SJW's dogpile people online that dares to disagree with the SJW ideology? Really, Rhedyn? Come on, man. You gotta be fucking kidding me!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Of course, one reason I laughed is that Shark very obviously paints large groups of individuals with the same brush - the very behavior that liberals accuse all the various 'ists' of doing...  

Quote from: SHARK;1075705No worries, my friend. I don't need to see "Links" to SJW's dogpiling on you or anyone else that disagrees with them. I know exactly what liberals are like.

For what it's worth, I don't think that removing Zak's name from the credits is the appropriate response, even if he is a piece of shit.  I can understand how they'd prefer not to associate with someone who they have deep disagreements with, but trying to pretend that they didn't consult with him is factually wrong and cowardly.  If they have a problem with his actions and support believe the accusations against him, they should actually say that.  If they don't believe the accusations, they don't HAVE to say anything, but it certainly would be nice toward Zak S if they did.  

Of course, what I'd have liked to see is them take a moment to address that there can be a lot of hostility to new people entering the hobby, and since the hobby largely started as groups of white guys playing on University Campuses, that the hobby can be unwelcoming to women and people of color.  Fantasy is enriched when more people contribute their stories - D&D should aim for inclusiveness because more options are better.  Nobody can make you use something you don't like at your table - encouraging more people to follow their passion in this hobby is a good thing.  Perhaps in the future in addition to mechanics, they should include consultants to help make game releases more representative and therefore more popular.  I certainly think that a more welcoming hobby with more active players is good for someone like me.

Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;1075862Everyone I talk to about Essentials though says it just gutted what people actually -liked- about 4E (among those who liked it). I've been discouraged from using it.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1075863The class builds can feel that way ... but the DM material (adventures, monster books, etc.) is, by all reports, 4E firing on all cylinders.

Pretty much that. I am one of the proponents of using Essentials if you are going to play 4E. I don't even have as much of a problem with the builds. I just feel like they stripped them down and focused them because in 4E all of the classes are so balanced anyhow. its like they tried to sweep the character generation out of the way so you just skipped straight to personality development. But if there was ever an edition that could have used some random background generation, this was it.

Quote from: S'mon;1075864Edit: This thread seems to have drifted into talking about RPGs?! :eek:

Imagine all the people living for today... eww hoo hoo, you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one......

No your right, I don't need the ban hammer for derailing a thread to talk about gaming.

So my two cents, some of these people are ass hats and deserve to be called out but I am so tired of the virtue signaling and social justice lynch mobs. The last straw for me was James Raggi's post on Facebook where he feel he has disavow a writer (Smith) that has been convicted of absolutely....nothing yet.

Even I think he is an ass hat (but I can separate my feelz from my facts).

As stated up stream, unless there is push back it keeps happening so I am done with LotFP.

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1075868Of course, what I'd have liked to see is them take a moment to address that there can be a lot of hostility to new people entering the hobby, and since the hobby largely started as groups of white guys playing on University Campuses, that the hobby can be unwelcoming to women and people of color.  Fantasy is enriched when more people contribute their stories - D&D should aim for inclusiveness because more options are better.  Nobody can make you use something you don't like at your table - encouraging more people to follow their passion in this hobby is a good thing.  Perhaps in the future in addition to mechanics, they should include consultants to help make game releases more representative and therefore more popular.  I certainly think that a more welcoming hobby with more active players is good for someone like me.

What are you like?

I don't think players here in London face any race or sex barriers to joining a group, but I see you're in Knoxville, supposedly the most segregated city in the USA, so I guess your mileage may well vary.

Quote from: Haffrung;1075860One of the problems with 4E is the official adventures published in its first year were spectacularly ill-suited to the system. 4E is not a good choice for dungeon-crawls. It wasn't until the Essentials era that WotC realized what kind of adventures worked best with 4E.

I think "minions" work better for common dungeon fodder. Long dragged out random encounters where the minis come out doesn't seem like a great pattern to get into for a "Mega-Dungeon". My 3e games tended to also have "3-5 room dungeons" because of similar problems.

5e still has the HP inflation issue, but since "low level" things can still hurt you, you can have defacto 4e minions in a dungeon without the "meta" minion rules. (What's the real difference between a 5th level 5e fighter running across a 7 HP goblin and a 10th level 4e fighter running across a Vampire Spawn Bloodhunter minion?)

Quote from: Rhedyn;10758805e still has the HP inflation issue, but since "low level" things can still hurt you, you can have defacto 4e minions in a dungeon without the "meta" minion rules.

The critters with Pack Tactics advtg (rats, kobolds) really seem built for that role, since even super-high-AC PCs are still going to get nibbled at. Hobgoblins are also very offensively lopsided with their huge damage, high AC, and low hp - they don't work vs low level PCs but great en masse at high level.

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1075868This made me laugh:





Of course, one reason I laughed is that Shark very obviously paints large groups of individuals with the same brush - the very behavior that liberals accuse all the various 'ists' of doing...  



For what it's worth, I don't think that removing Zak's name from the credits is the appropriate response, even if he is a piece of shit.  I can understand how they'd prefer not to associate with someone who they have deep disagreements with, but trying to pretend that they didn't consult with him is factually wrong and cowardly.  If they have a problem with his actions and support believe the accusations against him, they should actually say that.  If they don't believe the accusations, they don't HAVE to say anything, but it certainly would be nice toward Zak S if they did.  

Of course, what I'd have liked to see is them take a moment to address that there can be a lot of hostility to new people entering the hobby, and since the hobby largely started as groups of white guys playing on University Campuses, that the hobby can be unwelcoming to women and people of color.  Fantasy is enriched when more people contribute their stories - D&D should aim for inclusiveness because more options are better.  Nobody can make you use something you don't like at your table - encouraging more people to follow their passion in this hobby is a good thing.  Perhaps in the future in addition to mechanics, they should include consultants to help make game releases more representative and therefore more popular.  I certainly think that a more welcoming hobby with more active players is good for someone like me.

Greetings!

LOL! I'm painting SJW's with a broad brush?

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: S'mon;1075864Edit: This thread seems to have drifted into talking about RPGs?! :eek:

Just in time too. For a couple of pages I thought I had wandered into Pundit's political Slough of Despond forum.

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1075868This made me laugh:

Ahh but you can laugh harder when you filter internet forums through: http://www.gizoogle.net

http://www.gizoogle.net/index.php?search=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.therpgsite.com%2Fshowthread.php%3F40197-Just-logged-into-D-amp-D-Beyond-and-they-removed-Zak-S-RPG-Pundit-and-other-consultants%26p%3D1075886%26posted%3D1%23post1075886&se=Gizoogle+Dis+Shiznit

Gizoogle lets you translate pretty much anything on the internet into gangsta slang.

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1075868...
Of course, what tha fuck I'd have was horny bout ta peep is dem take a moment ta address dat there can be a shitload of hostilitizzle ta freshly smoked up playas enterin tha hobby, n' since tha hobby largely started as crewz of white muthafuckas playin on Universitizzle Campuses, dat tha hobby can be unwelcomin ta dem hoes n' playaz of color. Shiiit, dis aint no joke. Fantasy is enriched when mo' playas contribute they stories - D&D should aim fo' inclusivenizz cuz mo' options is mo' betta n' shit. No Muthafucka can make you use suttin' you don't like at yo' table - encouragin mo' playas ta follow they boner up in dis hobby be a phat thang. Perhaps up in tha future up in addizzle ta mechanics, they should include consultants ta help make game releases mo' representatizzle n' therefore mo' popular. Shiiit, dis aint no joke. I certainly be thinkin dat a mo' welcomin hobby wit mo' actizzle playas is phat fo' one of mah thugs like mah dirty ass.

This. This is better.

After all the work I did to translate it FROM gangsta'.

Quote from: Haffrung;1075860One of the problems with 4E is the official adventures published in its first year were spectacularly ill-suited to the system. 4E is not a good choice for dungeon-crawls. It wasn't until the Essentials era that WotC realized what kind of adventures worked best with 4E.

What kind of adventures work best? I only played 4E a few times, I assumed it was designed for dungeon crawls.

If anyone wants to see 4e at its best, buy the 4e version of Gamma World.

For me, that's 4e at its finest incarnation (so far).

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1075868Of course, what I'd have liked to see is them take a moment to address that there can be a lot of hostility to new people entering the hobby, and since the hobby largely started as groups of white guys playing on University Campuses, that the hobby can be unwelcoming to women and people of color.

What a fucking crock of shit.

Quote from: MonsterSlayer;1075876The last straw for me was James Raggi's post on Facebook where he feel he has disavow a writer (Smith) that has been convicted of absolutely....nothing yet.

LOL. So Raggi finally bows to the SJW mob?

The more WOTC keeps bowing down to the SJW's and their agenda of censorship and punk rock communism, possibly compromising the integrity of D&D 5E in the process, the more I think our government really should enact a second March To The Sea.

Only this new March To The Sea will be in the West Coast instead of the South, the military will be targeting Antifa instead of the Confederate Army, seizing control of universities and Silicon Valley instead of plantations and railroads, and burning down Portland instead of Atlanta.

Hurrah! Hurrah! We'll bring the jubilee!
Hurrah! Hurrah! So expression can be free!
We'll drive the Antifa commies back into the sea!
While we are marching to Portland!

[video=youtube;Yka2hCrKyso]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yka2hCrKyso[/youtube]

So Zak S's business associate and fake-feminist Daniel Fox continues to try to distract from his own deep connections to Zak by claiming now that I have tried to "blackmail" Mike Mearls, and misrepresenting the notion that I'm "threatening" Wizards. All the little Stalinists have come out to Reddit to demand I be Unpersoned.

All this to hide the fact that he was collaborting with Zak in spite of Zak's very well-known previous reputation. Disgusting.