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Just logged into D&D Beyond, and they removed Zak S, RPG Pundit and other consultants

Started by Grognard101, February 17, 2019, 10:22:14 PM

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crkrueger

If they removed Zak and Pundit, only, that would be the corporation bowing to SJW pressure.
If they removed all the consultant's names, including Robin Laws, that's the corporation not wanting to deal with the headache.
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Grognard101

Quote from: Snowman0147;1075414How did he get his book in Target is beyond me.  Enough talking about trash though.

I think we need a wait and see policy.  I for one want to know the truth and for that we need evidence.

It gets worse I just found Warhander (not using the real name of the game) on Walmart.com too. WTF?

Snowman0147

Quote from: Grognard101;1075422It gets worse I just found Warhander (not using the real name of the game) on Walmart.com too. WTF?

For a piece of shit he is doing a hell of a job getting his book sold.

mhensley

Quote from: Apparition;1075420I'm surprised that WotC didn't remove Frank Mentzer while they were at it.

It's probably a good thing that Gygax and Arneson died when they did.  It was probably only a matter of time before the outrage mob accused them of something.  Actually I'm surprised that Ed Greenwood has escaped the eye of sauron so far.  With some of the stuff he has written, it seems inevitable.

Arkansan

Quote from: Grognard101;1075417The problem I see is that he didn't outright call Pundit a sexual abuser. He said he was a harassers and provided links to fucking Sarah Darkmagick and Pundits blog. It's certainly weasel-ish but nothing illegal about it.

Over on reddit he's out right called Pundit a racist, that's been his main rallying cry over there.

Dan Vince

Quote from: CRKrueger;1075421If they removed Zak and Pundit, only, that would be the corporation bowing to SJW pressure.
If they removed all the consultant's names, including Robin Laws, that's the corporation not wanting to deal with the headache.

According to Grognard101's screen-cap, they removed all the consultants.

Snowman0147

Quote from: Arkansan;1075426Over on reddit he's out right called Pundit a racist, that's been his main rallying cry over there.

Pundit is racist?  Which bizzoro world is that even remotely true?

S'mon

Quote from: Snowman0147;1075430Pundit is racist?  Which bizzoro world is that even remotely true?

He verbally defended a racist who was pictured physically defending himself against an Antifa at a rally (Pundit didn't initially know the guy was racist, but then said he didn't care). In their world that's guilt by association.

HappyDaze

Quote from: SHARK;1075412Greetings!

You know, if I was Pundit, I would investigate with a lawyer about filing Libel, Harassment, Slander, Defamation suit against Daniel Fox. Daniel Fox is certainly slandering Pundit with unsubstantiated and malicious lies, which not only impugn Pundit's character--but also cost him money, reputation, and future profitable opportunities. I'm not a lawyer, though I'm wondering if what Fox has been doing to Pundit is legal. It would be glorious to drag Fox into court so he could be sued for several hundred grand or more, and publicly crucified!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

One factor might be whether RPGPundit (which is an online persona rather than a true identity) is a public figure that has "achieved public fame or notoriety" or has "voluntarily entered the public eye because of a particular public issue or controversy." Seeing as how Pundit posts blogs on controversies with regularity, there's a fair chance that he is, within RPG circles, a public figure and not under all of the same protections that private individuals enjoy. If a court decided that RPGPundit is a public figure, the standards of proving libel get much trickier.

kythri

Quote from: Grognard101;1075422It gets worse I just found Warhander (not using the real name of the game) on Walmart.com too. WTF?

3rd-party sales.  Like Amazon Marketplace, or eBay.  Walmart and Target aren't carrying his hack-job piece-of-shit - he, or someone affiliated with him, has setup a vendor account, and is selling it through their marketplace.

HappyDaze

Quote from: kythri;10754423rd-party sales.  Like Amazon Marketplace, or eBay.  Walmart and Target aren't carrying his hack-job piece-of-shit - he, or someone affiliated with him, has setup a vendor account, and is selling it through their marketplace.

Interestingly enough, both Walmart and Amazon will only be carrying the new "Revised Core Rulebook" (releasing in June) rather than the one that is currently available.

EDIT: Until now, I didn't know that there was a revised version coming out. Sure enough, my DTRPG library lists six different versions of this thing (3 of them are printer-friendly versions of the other 3).

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I wonder what Robin Laws and Kenneth Hite think of being accused of being abusers of women by Wizards of the Coast?
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Quote from: RPGPundit;1075452I wonder what Robin Laws and Kenneth Hite think of being accused of being abusers of women by Wizards of the Coast?

It is what it is, a way to remove Zak's name without (WOTC hopes) causing too much upset to the other contributors. I don't detect any suggestion that the other contributors are guilty of the same stuff as Zak, even if your name also created some controversy on other grounds. Will Robin and Ken be upset by this move - I doubt it, but I wouldn't blame them if they were, from a credit perspective, not because they have concern about getting tarred with the same brush.
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RPGPundit

The reason for this is very clear:

a) SJWs (plus fake-SJW Daniel Fox) were demanding that my name be removed along with Zak's.  Wizards was afraid that if they only removed Fox's name it wouldn't placate the outraged.

b) They also knew that I DID NOTHING WRONG, and that removing only my name and Zak's would clearly suggest that I had in fact been guilty of abusing women like Zak, and would set them up for a massive defamation of character lawsuit.

c) On the other hand, simply removing the entire Consultants credits, without making any statement at all, is sufficiently deniable by them that they can't be litigated for it.

So instead of standing up to the SJW totalitarians, these cowardly assholes would rather remove the credit that all of us who were Consultants earned than dare to just remove Zak and not me.
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