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It's funny, back in the day I really hated AD&D

Started by nitril, August 07, 2012, 02:27:14 PM

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Benoist

#60
August 13, 2012, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: Melan;570930A+! :cool:

Quote from: Sacrosanct;570931:D

I admit I thought the same thing when I first saw the big A+ avatar several days ago ;)

Sort of like Lindsay Lohan taking a pledge against getting drunk in public.

I got a nic fit, I'm not in my home where I could do what I want, and I couldn't stand that asshole completely deforming what I just said. That totally pisses me off. *raises hands in the air and leaves the thread*

Shawn Driscoll

#62
August 13, 2012, 08:10:24 PM
Quote from: Benoist;570901Just getting there took me DECADES of discussion with them.

You need to find another clique.

Benoist

#63
August 13, 2012, 08:16:45 PM Last Edit: August 13, 2012, 08:18:50 PM by Benoist
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;570987You need to find another clique.

Not in a million years. Though of course I'm talking about my French crew here, not the gamer friends I got here in Canada (Hi PlanetAlgol!).

silva

#64
August 13, 2012, 08:45:03 PM
Well, I never liked D&D in any of its incarnations. Its gameyness always offended my immersion somehow.

But I love some of its game worlds. Planescape and Darksun are among my favorite rpg settings. ;)

TristramEvans

#65
August 13, 2012, 10:05:35 PM
Planescape is I think  the ONLY RPG setting I've ever used without MASSIVE reworking, besides the original Warhammer Fantasy setting.

Bill

#66
August 14, 2012, 01:56:38 PM
Quote from: nitril;570867Can't argue against that! The number of dumbass GMs I have come across conventions etc are proof of that. Often IME it comes down to the GM having the me vs the players sentiment combined with a 'I have to win' disorder... It leaves a bad taste especially when you're younger. These days I would walk away after enlightening the GM of his shortcomings.

Unholy Trinity:

A GM that has Uber NPC's, gm vs players attitude, and Railroad Express!

Benoist

#67
August 14, 2012, 02:51:27 PM
Quote from: silva;571002Well, I never liked D&D in any of its incarnations. Its gameyness always offended my immersion somehow.
What immersion? You're a story gamer. :D

Also, remind me never to care again what you say about D&D based on that first sentence, please.

silva

#68
August 14, 2012, 08:47:50 PM
Quote from: Benoist;571313What immersion? You're a story gamer. :D
Nah.. I grew up eating Shadowrun on breakfest, Gurps on lunch and BRP* on dinner. I say good things about story-games just to tease you. :p



* actually, it was a game called "Daemon", a kind of non-official brazilian adaptation of BRP. I think Butcher must know it too. Oh, and it was a terrible mess of a ruleset. But I just found this out after knowing the original BRP. hehe

The Butcher

#69
August 14, 2012, 09:30:23 PM
Quote from: silva;571518* actually, it was a game called "Daemon", a kind of non-official brazilian adaptation of BRP. I think Butcher must know it too. Oh, and it was a terrible mess of a ruleset. But I just found this out after knowing the original BRP. hehe

I never touched Daemon. The author is a giant self-righteous douche, a hack and a self-admitted plagiarist.

Shawn Driscoll

#70
August 14, 2012, 10:11:26 PM
Quote from: Bill;571278Unholy Trinity:

A GM that has Uber NPC's, gm vs players attitude, and Railroad Express!

Just shoot me if I ever railroad my players.  I would give up GMing before doing that.

Telarus

#71
August 15, 2012, 01:25:15 AM
Quote from: TrueGygaxFan;571530Sorry to interrupt but what is a "story game?"


Hmmm, an actual definition occurred to me.


Story-Games are games which primarily draw on a vast body of literature and narrative theory to drive gameplay towards a narrative (with such identifiers as points-of-view, rising-and-falling-action, thematic-choice, chekov's-gun, etc).


Let us differentiate that from Role-Playing-Games, which are games which primarily draw on a vast body of wargaming-in-miniature and tactical-strategic theory to drive gameplay towards the experience of being an individual-character in a recreation of small and large-scale conflicts of a specific setting or world.

Shawn Driscoll

#72
August 15, 2012, 01:55:00 AM
Quote from: Telarus;571605Hmmm, an actual definition occurred to me.

It all comes back to role-play vs roll-play.

Exploderwizard

#73
August 15, 2012, 07:53:30 AM
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;571610It all comes back to role-play vs roll-play.

Its actually kind of funny that the one that has the most in common with war gaming features more role-play.
Quote from: JonWakeGamers, as a whole, are much like primitive cavemen when confronted with a new game. Rather than \'oh, neat, what\'s this do?\', the reaction is to decide if it\'s a sex hole, then hit it with a rock.

Quote from: Old Geezer;724252At some point it seems like D&D is going to disappear up its own ass.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;766997In the randomness of the dice lies the seed for the great oak of creativity and fun. The great virtue of the dice is that they come without boxed text.

Shawn Driscoll

#74
August 15, 2012, 08:02:00 AM
Quote from: Exploderwizard;571650Its actually kind of funny that the one that has the most in common with war gaming features more role-play.

About the only thing games like D&D have in common with wargames is that playing on grids is optional.
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