Quote from: Monero on January 01, 2023, 11:02:49 AM
This site and rpgpub are the only two sites where I don't have fear of being banned. But because of obvious asshole behavior, but because I dare say anything that goes against the established and rigid dogma that's allowed to be expressed.

I honestly feel like it's back in the 80s and 90s when the Right wing Christians would go absolutely nuts if you dared expressed ideas that went outside of their rhetoric.

Sites like rpg net will literally ban you and invent ways that you violated their "racism"policy. Same with enworld and many Reddit communities.

When the fuck did all this occur?

One of my first posts here asked the same question: https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/history-of-tbp/

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So - recently banned from RPG.NET or TBP and discovered this is a right of passage.

It got me thinking, how did the site become so over the top extreme left wing over time?

Is it the forum admins themselves, or skotos, or did it just become self reinforcing and more extreme over time?

Quote from: Grognard GM on January 02, 2023, 03:31:14 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on January 02, 2023, 10:56:00 AM

Quote from: Monero on January 01, 2023, 11:02:49 AM
and rpgpub

Actually, I'll have to disagree with you on the pub sadly. I was banned for basically going 'against the grain' and supporting TDM's Mythic Polynesian release. Now, I did start trolling one mod, but that was only in retaliation for being thread banned and having my posts deleted.

Bun in general the folks who post there are very cool (with the exception of one or two bell-ends).

I just joined, because people here said it was laidback. It didn't take me long to be strawmanned and brigaded. Not aggressively (more dismissive and obtuse), but my wrongthink was descended on quickly and uniformly, without a single dissenting voice. Not great.

The site seems fine as long as everyone pretends they're living in the 90's, so I'll just enjoy it for what it is, and not discuss anything more spicy than which game editions are superior.

Link: https://www.rpgpub.com/threads/d-d-is-it-the-gateway-game-for-the-rest-of-the-hobby.8544/page-8 (my post that set things off is post #293)

Soo... I read that thread, and yes, can see there were some people with differences of opinions... But saying you "got dogpiled" I'm honestly kind of baffled that you feel that way. There was some mild disagreement with you, yes, but then people moved on. No bans, no screeching or anything that you see over on TBP. I'd say grow thicker skin, frankly.

Quote from: Iron_Rain on January 05, 2023, 05:35:19 PM

Quote from: Monero on January 01, 2023, 11:02:49 AM
This site and rpgpub are the only two sites where I don't have fear of being banned. But because of obvious asshole behavior, but because I dare say anything that goes against the established and rigid dogma that's allowed to be expressed.

I honestly feel like it's back in the 80s and 90s when the Right wing Christians would go absolutely nuts if you dared expressed ideas that went outside of their rhetoric.

Sites like rpg net will literally ban you and invent ways that you violated their "racism"policy. Same with enworld and many Reddit communities.

When the fuck did all this occur?

One of my first posts here asked the same question: https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/history-of-tbp/

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So - recently banned from RPG.NET or TBP and discovered this is a right of passage.

It got me thinking, how did the site become so over the top extreme left wing over time?

Is it the forum admins themselves, or skotos, or did it just become self reinforcing and more extreme over time?

Quote from: Grognard GM on January 02, 2023, 03:31:14 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on January 02, 2023, 10:56:00 AM

Quote from: Monero on January 01, 2023, 11:02:49 AM
and rpgpub

Actually, I'll have to disagree with you on the pub sadly. I was banned for basically going 'against the grain' and supporting TDM's Mythic Polynesian release. Now, I did start trolling one mod, but that was only in retaliation for being thread banned and having my posts deleted.

Bun in general the folks who post there are very cool (with the exception of one or two bell-ends).

I just joined, because people here said it was laidback. It didn't take me long to be strawmanned and brigaded. Not aggressively (more dismissive and obtuse), but my wrongthink was descended on quickly and uniformly, without a single dissenting voice. Not great.

The site seems fine as long as everyone pretends they're living in the 90's, so I'll just enjoy it for what it is, and not discuss anything more spicy than which game editions are superior.

Link: https://www.rpgpub.com/threads/d-d-is-it-the-gateway-game-for-the-rest-of-the-hobby.8544/page-8 (my post that set things off is post #293)

Soo... I read that thread, and yes, can see there were some people with differences of opinions... But saying you "got dogpiled" I'm honestly kind of baffled that you feel that way. There was some mild disagreement with you, yes, but then people moved on. No bans, no screeching or anything that you see over on TBP. I'd say grow thicker skin, frankly.

Thank you for the epidermis examination, Doctor.

It's a nice site, but everyone there wants to pretend we're living in Leave It To Beaver. The hobby is under assault, and they are more worried about someone pointing it out, than the are by the assault.

As I said, swift and uniform response, with zero dissent, mocking but polite. Much like you thin skin jab.

I don't believe anything I said was so crazy that not a single member of a large board would agree, so that means dissenters are either already gone, or keep quiet.

FYI, my skin's so thin I've been posting ever since, no melt down, no hissy fit, plenty of likes. Nice site, nice people, just in utter denial.

The hobby is under assault, but I think at the moment Hasbro corporate is the slightly bigger threat to it than loudmouths on social media.

Quote from: Chris24601 on January 05, 2023, 06:57:37 PM
The hobby is under assault, but I think at the moment Hasbro corporate is the slightly bigger threat to it than loudmouths on social media.

I have the exact opposite take.

Hasbro corporate is currently in the process of unwittingly saving the RPG hobby by taking steps to implode 'official' D&D!

What they are currently doing with the 1.1 OGL isn't quite enough, but it is a step in the right direction.

They have my unswerving support in the course that they are taking!

@Grognard GM yes, on that point I agree with you. Much like in real life if you point out too much truth people don't want to hear it.

They are bad. We are good.   

(But also due to demographic and ideological shifts the folks who constitute "we" may be in an ever shrinking minority opposition.)

Quote from: PulpHerb on January 03, 2023, 12:02:22 PM

Quote from: TheShadow on January 02, 2023, 11:35:35 PM
I grew up in a right-wing Christian household in the 80s and 90s. I left that environment and *poof* they had no power over me whatsoever. This new thing is not like that at all. They want total control, to make sure you lose employment, have no access to financial services or speech platforms etc.

At the risk of being mildly political, the Woke Left is implementing one of the most famous quotes by the forebearer they reject, "Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State," to a degree, the Christian Fundamentalists have not even attempted in centuries (and arguably never, but that requires debating where modern Christian fundies come from, which would be theology).

As long as they are The State of course. Authoritarians gonna authoritarian after all. But the minute they aren't they'll flip the script once again.

The internet of the 90's and early 2000's was awesome. Open, free, like the wild west. But as the libtards continued their slow steady march towards full communism they were ok with the internet being unrestricted until Trump was elected, the first time in their lifetime a US president didn't aid them in their Marxist goals, this completely freaked them out and they've been doing everything in the power to lockdown dissident voices anywhere and everywhere. You are not allowed an opinion that is to the right of Chairman Mao.

We are seeing the internet being closed and locked down all around us. It is horrifying to watch this happen in real time. I used to wonder how an ideology as evil as Communism was able to take over Russia, China, and other countries. Now I wonder no longer.

Having lived a fair amount in China, what happens here is far worse because there's the pretense of openness and balance when in reality the Left has much more far-reaching and insidious control over media and society.  In China, pretty much everyone is skeptical of the CCP and its aims and finds ways to game the system and get by.  Or they simply join the party, which actually isn't that easy, and enjoy the fruits.  But in discussion boards and various public settings you'll find a range of opinions and discourse, unlike here where the dominant elitist Latte Left seems Hell-bent on controlling every narrative with their hypocritical take of the month and cancelling any who dissent.  As we've seen, even our games are being infested, often by those who don't actually play them.

Quote from: Anon Adderlan on January 30, 2023, 11:36:18 AM

Quote from: PulpHerb on January 03, 2023, 12:02:22 PM

Quote from: TheShadow on January 02, 2023, 11:35:35 PM
I grew up in a right-wing Christian household in the 80s and 90s. I left that environment and *poof* they had no power over me whatsoever. This new thing is not like that at all. They want total control, to make sure you lose employment, have no access to financial services or speech platforms etc.

At the risk of being mildly political, the Woke Left is implementing one of the most famous quotes by the forebearer they reject, "Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State," to a degree, the Christian Fundamentalists have not even attempted in centuries (and arguably never, but that requires debating where modern Christian fundies come from, which would be theology).

As long as they are The State of course. Authoritarians gonna authoritarian after all. But the minute they aren't they'll flip the script once again.

"When I am Weaker Than You, I ask you for Freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am Stronger than you, I take away your Freedom Because that is according to my principles."

It's their M.O. They come asking to be included and the moment they have the power they want to exclude us from what WE created/kept alive for decades.

Quote from: Opaopajr on January 01, 2023, 11:44:02 AMWe typically don't want cross forum drama,

Bah! I want MAXIMUM cross forum drama!

In clown world, always go for the LOLz!

Quote from: thornad on January 30, 2023, 02:04:05 PMThe internet of the 90's and early 2000's was awesome. Open, free, like the wild west.

It was slooooooooooooooooooooooow but glorious!

Quote from: thornad on January 30, 2023, 02:04:05 PMI used to wonder how an ideology as evil as Communism was able to take over Russia, China, and other countries. Now I wonder no longer.

Google Yuri Bezmenov if you want to understand more of how this has happened here.

Quote from: Monero on January 01, 2023, 11:02:49 AM
I honestly feel like it's back in the 80s and 90s when the Right wing Christians would go absolutely nuts if you dared expressed ideas that went outside of their rhetoric.

Well, to be fair to those Christians. Look at where we are now. They pretty much saw it coming.

Quote from: thornad on January 31, 2023, 01:54:52 PM

Quote from: Monero on January 01, 2023, 11:02:49 AM
I honestly feel like it's back in the 80s and 90s when the Right wing Christians would go absolutely nuts if you dared expressed ideas that went outside of their rhetoric.

Well, to be fair to those Christians. Look at where we are now. They pretty much saw it coming.

Sure, like a stopped clock sees the correct time coming twice a day. When you say everything is wicked, and will lead to depravity, you're gonna come up correct sometimes.

I showed up late to that other site (rpg.net) after reading Applecline's History of RPG books.  I'm not a huge forum poster, but the vibe from the site felt off.  What caused me to just wander away was the anti-Trump (not anti-politics) site wide policy.  I haven't been back and wouldn't recommend the site to anyone who's interested in TTRPG info.  By now it's probably just an echo chamber of celebrating how much publishers are getting pushed around by the mob.