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Alright, the Compendium is free, and the work I did for my D&D game-including the Cube World pdfs-will no longer be available any other way. It will ship anywhere in the world, free.
 
Again, all this goes away Jan 1. It will not be available any more nor will any of this stuff. This is a limited edition collectors' item.
 
Here's the deal: there are a lot of you. You send messages of support, you ask for game stuff I make, you are lovely and-frankly-it's really hard to find you or talk to you.
 
So, in order to help do this, anyone who wants this Compendium should perform the following social media tasks. If this seems absolutely impossible and horrible, remember you can send me 1000$ instead and I will rush-ship the Compendium to you immediately (VenMo ZakZSmith ).
 
Otherwise-to get the book, do this stuff. If there is some specific task that is technically impossible for some reason, get in touch and we'll find something else you can do to replace that task.
 
If you're thinking "But I'm not on social media" well that's the problem: you aren't. But now you will be.
 
(Please note also that if anyone spots a mistake in the Compendium I may change it at this point, so the precise page order of the Compendium you see in the ads might be different than what you get, but all the material you've seen in the posts/ads will be there.)
 
Please follow the instructions carefully, they matter. Keep in mind the difference between a "post" and a "comment".
 
1. A lot of platforms are named below-within a week of receiving this email send me your screen names on those platforms along an email with the subject line, all-caps ******************. In the email you don't have to send anything else but your screen-names in that email. The screennames can be whatever works for you-some people like to be anonymous, some do not care. Put some kind of picture in your avatar on platforms that have avatars so people can remember you. Post what you like on these platforms but do not get thrown off.
 
[snip]

Wow.  Seriously?  This sounds more like a cult than a business.

"Like and subscribe"

"Buy one get one free"

"Free miles with purchase"

These things are not cults. You do something---> you get something.

It also isn't really business, if you read. The people who pay 1000$ for it aren't finding out through any kind of promotion the other fans are doing.

It's just community-building. More people, more interconnected, more active, more to talk about.

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 05:06:47 AM"Red flag"-based conversations are the opposite of fact-based conversations.

Actually, it's simple pattern recognition.  For example, this kind of pompous, self-important word salad is a good indicator that you are talking to someone who is trying very hard to appear more clever than they actually are.

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 05:18:58 AMIt's just community-building. More people, more interconnected, more active, more to talk about.

I have seen nothing from you or the people who are presumably here at your behest in this thread that even remotely resembles any attempt at community-building.

Quote from: yosemitemike on December 18, 2024, 05:21:30 AM

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 05:06:47 AM"Red flag"-based conversations are the opposite of fact-based conversations.


Actually, it's simple pattern recognition. 

"Pattern recognition" in this context just means "I have no evidence I am paranoid."

And if you think any of this is "word salad"--point to the phrase that you failed to understand and I will translate it just for you personally so you can follow the conversation.

Quote

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 05:18:58 AMIt's just community-building. More people, more interconnected, more active, more to talk about.

I have seen nothing from you or the people who are presumably here at your behest in this thread that even remotely resembles any attempt at community-building.

If you're looking for community building in the smear thread, that is not a rational place to look.

You'd want to look at conversations the folks who are into the book are having with each other, not with a bunch of people who made some shit up and now I gotta fact-check them.

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 05:28:26 AMIf you're looking for community building in the smear thread, that is not a rational place to look.

You'd want to look at conversations the folks who are into the book are having with each other, not with a bunch of people who made some shit up and now I gotta fact-check them.

That's a very convenient and self-serving way to characterize it.  That seems to be the way you characterize everything.  For example, characterizing pompous word salad and disingenuous whataboutery as fact-checking.  You say you are here to make the community better.  How, exactly, do you plan on doing that?  Is this it?

Quote from: yosemitemike on December 18, 2024, 05:34:36 AM

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 05:28:26 AMIf you're looking for community building in the smear thread, that is not a rational place to look.

You'd want to look at conversations the folks who are into the book are having with each other, not with a bunch of people who made some shit up and now I gotta fact-check them.

That's a very convenient and self-serving way to characterize it.  That seems to be the way you characterize everything.  For example, characterizing pompous word salad and disingenuous whataboutery as fact-checking.  You say you are here to make the community better.  How, exactly, do you plan on doing that?  Is this it?

Again:

If you think any of this is "word salad" point to the phrase that you failed to understand and I will explain it to you so you can follow the conversation.

That, for example, is a community service. Because you didn't understand the words, I will rephrase them so you can understand the words.

You're having trouble understanding. This can be fixed.

re: Brad below

Trolling as usual.

I thought it was difficult to reason with my 6 year old, but he seems like Mr. Spock compared to Zak...

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 05:37:40 AMIf you think any of this is "word salad" point to the phrase that you failed to understand and I will explain it to you so you can follow the conversation.

The explanation would just be more of the same.

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 05:18:58 AMIt's just community-building. More people, more interconnected, more active, more to talk about.

That, for example, is a community service. Because you didn't understand the words, I will rephrase them so you can understand the words.

You're having trouble understanding. This can be fixed.

re: Brad below

Trolling as usual.

How does being a pompous ass and calling me a troll serve the community in any way?  How does it serve anyone but you?  An increase in activity only builds a community if it's signal rather than noise.  An increase in noise has an opposite effect.  So far, everything I have seen you post in this thread has been noise.  Actually, everything I have seen you post on this forum in general has been noise.  I see no sign that you have any interest in community building at all.  The only thing you seem to actually care about is doing spin on some internet drama that, as far as I can, has precious little to do with this forum in the first place.  I don't see how going on about it uplifts anyone but you.   

Quote from: yosemitemike on December 18, 2024, 06:04:22 AMThe explanation would just be more of the same.

Since you:

1. clearly understood the offer
and
2. rejected it

..then it must be true that you can actually understand my explanations and they aren't "word salad".

QuoteHow does being a pompous ass

You'd have to find one and ask.

 

Quoteand calling me a troll serve the community in any way?

If someone is a troll, identifying them as a bad source of information helps anyone tempted to believe them.

It's bad to act on unreliable information.

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 06:07:04 AM..then it must be true that you can actually understand my explanations and they aren't "word salad".

I have seen your pompous posturing and non-answers.  I have seen that sort of thing before many times.  I don't need more of it.  I know this line of bullshit because I used to do it.  Then I realized that it was a stupid waste of my time. 

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 06:07:04 AMYou'd have to find one and ask.

I'm talking to one now.

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 06:07:04 AMIf someone is a troll, identifying them as a bad source of information helps anyone tempted to believe them.

It's bad to act on unreliable information.

Do you even know what a troll is?  I'll give you a hint.  It doesn't mean source of information.

I see you have done some post editing.  Pattern recognition is just what it says.  It's recognition of a pattern such as certain words and phrases frequently being used by people who act in bad faith.  Another example is that people who are trying to control a narrative often refer to themselves as fact-checkers.  They are also very fond of talking about misinformation.  Personally, I don't give a shit about whatever internet drama you keep bringing up.  You are trying to control a conversation that no one was even having before you brought it up.  No one would even be talking about this irrelevant internet drama if you didn't insist on bringing it up.     

Quote from: yosemitemike on December 18, 2024, 06:22:25 AMI have seen your pompous posturing and non-answers.

You say something is word salad.
I offer to explain it.

How is that a "non-answer"? That is a direct answer.

QuotePersonally, I don't give a shit about whatever internet drama you keep bringing up.   

Then you can stop posting in this thread and do other things.

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 06:25:43 AMHow is that a "non-answer"? That is a direct answer.

Another bowl of word salad is not actually an answer.  I don't remember seeing you give an actual answer to anything.

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 06:25:43 AMThen you can stop posting in this thread and do other things.

So you admit that this thread is entirely about that?

Quote from: yosemitemike on December 18, 2024, 06:35:14 AM

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 06:25:43 AMHow is that a "non-answer"? That is a direct answer.

Another bowl of word salad is not actually an answer.  I don't remember seeing you give an actual answer to anything.

Please cut and paste the question you want an answer to that I didn't answer.

Last I knew, you asked how pointing out trolls helped the community and I gave a clear answer.

If I did not answer other questions, I apologize and will answer them now.

QuoteSo you admit that this thread is entirely about that?

This thread was started with a fake claim--that I was "brigading" something. It's in the title. Of course the thread is entirely about that.

I am here to fact-check.

Once people (like you) stop posting about how much they hate (whatever) then it goes away and you won't see it anymore.

If you hate talking to me so much you can just. Stop. Posting.

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 06:41:15 AMIf I did not answer other questions, I apologize and will answer them now.

I tell you what.  I'll do that after I see you actually answer a question.  Any question from anyone.

QuoteSo you admit that this thread is entirely about that?

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 06:41:15 AMThis thread was started with a fake claim--that I was "brigading" something. It's in the title. Of course the thread is entirely about that.

I am here to fact-check.

You mean the one with "brigading" in quotes?  You know what that means right?  Fact-check?  You can tell yourself that all you want buy I don't buy it even a little bit.  This is spin control.

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 06:41:15 AMOnce people (like you) stop posting about how much they hate (whatever) then it goes away and you won't see it anymore.

If you hate talking to me so much you can just. Stop. Posting.

It doesn't though.  You keep coming back.

That kind of misrepresentation of what people actually said is another sign that you are not here to discuss anything in good faith, build community or do anything but self-serving spin control bullshit.

You can stop posting too.  You kicked off this whole bullshit thing.  This is all you.  I can buy that some of the people who are here at your behest have some interest in actual discussion and maybe even community-building.  I have never seen you contribute positively to anything here.  All you ever post is the same kind of self-important, condescending bullshit you are posting in this thread.  The only effect you have on this community is negative.

Quote from: yosemitemike on December 18, 2024, 07:07:26 AM

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 06:41:15 AMIf I did not answer other questions, I apologize and will answer them now.

I tell you what.  I'll do that after I see you actually answer a question.  Any question from anyone.

QuoteSo you admit that this thread is entirely about that?

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 06:41:15 AMThis thread was started with a fake claim--that I was "brigading" something. It's in the title. Of course the thread is entirely about that.

I am here to fact-check.

There it is. There is me answering a question.

QuoteYou mean the one with "brigading" in quotes?

Yes.

There's me answering a question again.

QuoteYou know what that means right?

Yes.

There's me answering a question again.

QuoteFact-check?

Is that a question?

QuoteYou can tell yourself that all you want buy I don't buy it even a little bit.  This is spin control.

You have no evidence so while you are of course free to believe that, believing it means you are not rational.

QuoteIt doesn't though.  You keep coming back.

Actually no: literally the only time I post on this site is when someone makes a thread about me and lies in it.

QuoteYou can stop posting too.

I wasn't complaining about having to talk to you.

I am happy to address your concerns all day long.

It's important to help those who are slow in understanding.

 

QuoteYou kicked off this whole bullshit thing.

Actually, no, I didn't start this thread on TheRPGSite. Someone else did.

QuoteI have never seen you contribute positively to anything here.

Again:
The only reason I come here is when someone else starts a thread about me and people lie in it.

So if you're looking for some non-fact-checking contribution to RPGs, you'd have to look elsewhere.

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 07:15:18 AMThere it is. There is me answering a question.

I mean an actual answer not a self-serving vague evasion.

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 07:15:18 AMI wasn't complaining about having to talk to you.

Actually no one at all was doing that.

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 07:15:18 AMI am happy to address your concerns all day long.

You have yet to even try.

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 07:15:18 AMIt's important to help those who are slow in understanding.

Self-important posturing

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 07:15:18 AMActually, no,

Actually, yes.  The letter came before this thread.

Quote from: Zak S on December 18, 2024, 07:15:18 AMSo if you're looking for some non-fact-checking contribution to RPGs, you'd have to look elsewhere.

Repeating that self-serving characterization of what you are doing here doesn't make it any more credible.  You are trying to control the narrative like most people who appoint themselves as fact-checkers and talk about misinformation.  I'm not buying it.  No one here is buying it.