To summarize: Zak has gone "full retard."

Never go full retard.

Pay him $1000 (the dollar sign goes first Zak)

-or-

Join some of the most toxic social media platforms around (many who ban people for not sufficiently bowing to the Woke mind-virus)

...and then he will deign grace you with some RPG product he feels is worth an amount that would make even Games Workshop blush.

If everyplace you go turns toxic, the problem isn't the places. It's you. Seek help. I recommend God.

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Quote from: Chris24601 on December 14, 2024, 07:57:35 AMIf everyplace you go turns toxic, the problem isn't the places. It's you. Seek help. I recommend God.

Well you're on one of them, anonymous religious Chris.

Well this explains the increased membership requests to the LotFP Facebook page.

I'm having flashbacks to the days of record labels trying to recruit for their street teams. (and a quick google shows it's still a thing; I hadn't heard about street teams for many years now...)

I think this current effort needs some old school "put up flyers around your local game store" encouragement to be legit.

Now that the "brigade" instruction is confirmed to be taking place, the next action should be to inform the relevant institutions being targeted, and leave it up to them to consider an appropriate response. They might concur with Zak that there is nothing strange about this. Then again, they might find it disturbing and impose sanctions. But they should be informed regardless. I would be curious to learn if James Raggi himself was even informed that sleeper agents were to be placed in his official Lotfp facebook group.

Edit: It seems he was not. This is certainly unprofessional and embarassing.

Quote from: Zak S on December 14, 2024, 07:13:51 AMYou guys aren't very smart.

Every time there's a conspiracy theory on here someone gets sued over it and there's a thread and y'all end up having to stop repeating it--haven't you noticed the pattern yet?

So:

There's a lot of people who are fans and want my stuff (apparently).

They avoid a lot of existing online RPG spaces because they are full of psychotic trash internet people.

So: I created a book. https://dndwithpornstars.blogspot.com/2024/11/it-will-be-here-it-will-cost-0-and-then.html

In order to get a book you either have to give me 1000$ (which 7 people have so far) or participate in building RPG community that isn't all psychotic trash people.

If you actually read the instructions there's nothing suggesting anyone say anything nice about me or praise the work. You guys made that up because I guess you're complete morons.

How did you guys get this stupid? Can you read?

Well, it would seem less conspiratorial if you'd said that in public. Also, if you hadn't designated theRPGsite, one of the places you are freely able to post, as "hostile" (does "hostile" in this context just mean there are people who criticize you?).

For the record, I don't care if people come in because you asked them to, and if they're genuine fans (and they'd have to be to agree to do this) I wouldn't care if they spoke well of you or their products. But this makes it seem like they're going to be doing covert advertising for you, which I think is counterproductive for you.

A wiser thing might be to trust your fans and supporters and let them use their own voice; at least that's always worked for me.

Quote from: RPGPundit on December 14, 2024, 09:05:44 AM

Quote from: Zak S on December 14, 2024, 07:13:51 AMYou guys aren't very smart.

Every time there's a conspiracy theory on here someone gets sued over it and there's a thread and y'all end up having to stop repeating it--haven't you noticed the pattern yet?

So:

There's a lot of people who are fans and want my stuff (apparently).

They avoid a lot of existing online RPG spaces because they are full of psychotic trash internet people.

So: I created a book. https://dndwithpornstars.blogspot.com/2024/11/it-will-be-here-it-will-cost-0-and-then.html

In order to get a book you either have to give me 1000$ (which 7 people have so far) or participate in building RPG community that isn't all psychotic trash people.

If you actually read the instructions there's nothing suggesting anyone say anything nice about me or praise the work. You guys made that up because I guess you're complete morons.

How did you guys get this stupid? Can you read?

Well, it would seem less conspiratorial if you'd said that in public. Also, if you hadn't designated theRPGsite, one of the places you are freely able to post, as "hostile" (does "hostile" in this context just mean there are people who criticize you?).

It means specifically they say things that aren't true--and do it without any accountability.

For example the first page of this thread where people invented the idea that these folks had to say nice things about me.

Or just now where someone said it was "unprofessional"--as if I am under contract to anybody.

Quote from: RPGPundit on December 14, 2024, 09:10:19 AMit seem like they're going to be doing covert advertising for you,

Yeah you made that up.

You had an entire agreement in front of you "If you do x you get y"--and still you (just like every other idiot) decided to fantasize some extra clauses in there.

See:

The making things up is the problem.

QuoteA wiser thing might be to trust your fans and supporters and let them use their own voice; at least that's always worked for me.

We have a very different definition of "work"--and we have very different starting conditions.

You want money out of your fans--you ask for money.

I don't need money from them (I am not selling the Compendium in the normal sense).

I need them to work attempt to overcome the psychotic shitshow that the online RPG scene has become.

Quote from: Zak S on December 14, 2024, 12:57:11 PMI need them to work attempt to overcome the psychotic shitshow that the online RPG scene has become.

You 'need' them to do this? To what end?

Quote from: HappyDaze on December 14, 2024, 01:47:00 PM

Quote from: Zak S on December 14, 2024, 12:57:11 PMI need them to work attempt to overcome the psychotic shitshow that the online RPG scene has become.

You 'need' them to do this? To what end?

To all the ends that a halfway decent RPG scene has:

-To help each other when they have questions about their games

-To help each other when they have ideas for projects

-To answer questions about other peoples' stuff honestly

-To work together collaboratively to make new projects and new ideas

-To make conditions for doing this less tedious and cost less in terms of time and social media friction

-To spread information faster and with less noise and less telephone-game-bullshit

-To be less boring to be around

-to be less boring to retrieve ideas and information from

Well I for one am glad this has all been cleared up. And hopefully it will inject new blood into the scene for the better in the future. Welcome newbies, stay awhile in Mos Eisley, enjoy the music.

That said, I probably would have given a courtesy heads up explainer of purpose (either at the header of the topic post or direct message to said sites) to alleviate any concerns of malefactors. It is involving them indirectly as part of a giveaway, so to get ahead of any confusion being direct with the unaware factors is a nice thing to do. Sometimes a little bit of consideration sugar really does go a long way.

Mystery solved! Try not to hold hard feelings over something far more innocent than suspected. And remember to be good to each other!

Quote from: Opaopajr on December 14, 2024, 02:51:51 PMThat said, I probably would have given a courtesy heads up explainer of purpose (either at the header of the topic post or direct message to said sites) to alleviate any concerns of malefactors.

15 years of experience in the RPG scene have taught me:

1. Before-the-fact consideration: It would not have worked and site owners would have been suspicious and stupid about it anyway and assumed ulterior motive.
2. After-the-fact-realization: I would have missed out on the opportunity to provide this very clear object lesson in how suspicious and stupid the RPG scene has gotten "People want a book so joined a site! Conspiracy!!! We are victims!!! Fabricate misinformation!". There. Proved.

Quote from: Zak S on December 14, 2024, 07:13:51 AMIf you actually read the instructions there's nothing suggesting anyone say anything nice about me or praise the work. You guys made that up because I guess you're complete morons.

How did you guys get this stupid? Can you read?

I reed gud.  It's sort of necessary in this hobby.

QuoteIf there is any major positive news from me, you will get an email from me. If so, and if this news is discussed in any of the places above, write helpful comments in all the places above where it is being discussed.

Quote from: Valatar on December 14, 2024, 02:59:38 PM

Quote from: Zak S on December 14, 2024, 07:13:51 AMIf you actually read the instructions there's nothing suggesting anyone say anything nice about me or praise the work. You guys made that up because I guess you're complete morons.

How did you guys get this stupid? Can you read?

I reed gud.  It's sort of necessary in this hobby.

QuoteIf there is any major positive news from me, you will get an email from me. If so, and if this news is discussed in any of the places above, write helpful comments in all the places above where it is being discussed.

"Helpful" does not mean "praiseful of me specifically".

"Helpful" means it helps people. For example: if you order a book from me and arrives damaged then it is helpful to people to say that.

Again:

If you can't read, do not post comments on the internet.

The only reason this asshole is still around is because you people keep engaging with him.

Stop doing that, and he will go away.