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Is "roll under %" a disdained mechanic?

Started by Shipyard Locked, February 14, 2014, 12:01:59 PM

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Rincewind1

#375
February 28, 2014, 02:41:03 PM
Quote from: gamerGoyf;733668RPGs (except the super abstract ones) care about how good you are and how hard the task is, and representing that is super awkward in a roll under % system.

What.
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

3rik

#376
February 28, 2014, 02:43:59 PM
Quote from: Old One Eye;733520Stars Without Number is the only game I have that uses it, though I think that is a direct homage to Traveller?  Dunno, never played Traveller.

You have named enough games that I'm willing to take your word on its commonality.
It's just the impression I get. I haven't seen any statistics.
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AmazingOnionMan

#377
February 28, 2014, 02:44:40 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;733675What.
I was going to quote the Dude, but you got it covered.

Sacrosanct

#378
February 28, 2014, 02:55:29 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;733675What.

How good you are:  Roll under the % value
How difficult the task is:  take a penalty.



Super awkward, doncha know.
D&D is not an "everyone gets a ribbon" game.  If you\'re stupid, your PC will die.  If you\'re an asshole, your PC will die (probably from the other PCs).  If you\'re unlucky, your PC may die.  Point?  PC\'s die.  Get over it and roll up a new one.

gamerGoyf

#379
February 28, 2014, 02:55:56 PM Last Edit: February 28, 2014, 02:58:44 PM by gamerGoyf
Quote from: Rincewind1;733675What.
I thought this was obvious. In a % system you have say "Climbing 30%", if climbing a stone wall is supposed harder than climbing a rope then that needs to be handled by applying some sort of modifier to your roll. In other systems you would just have "climbing +5" or "Climbing dice pool 5" and things that are harder to climb would be handled be having a higher target number or requiring more successes, which is much less awkward at the table.

Rincewind1

#380
February 28, 2014, 03:01:21 PM
Quote from: gamerGoyf;733684I thought this was obvious. In a % system you have say "Climbing 30%", if climbing a stone wall is supposed harder than climbing a rope then that needs to be handled by applying some sort of modifier to your roll. In other systems you would just have "climbing +5" or "Climbing dice pool 5" and things that are harder to climb would be handled be having a higher target number or requiring more successes, which is much less awkward at the table.

Did you require parental oversight when you joined this forum? I just want to know what level of maths I'm talking about, as I don't want to be mean to a primary school child.
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

3rik

#381
February 28, 2014, 03:04:46 PM
Quote from: gamerGoyf;733684I thought this was obvious. In a % system you have say "Climbing 30%", if climbing a stone wall is supposed harder than climbing a rope then that needs to be handled by applying some sort of modifier to your roll. In other systems you would just have "climbing +5" or "Climbing dice pool 5" and things that are harder to climb would be handled be having a higher target number or requiring more successes, which is much less awkward at the table.

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3rik

#382
February 28, 2014, 03:09:29 PM
Quote from: gamerGoyf;733684I thought this was obvious. In a % system you have say "Climbing 30%", if climbing a stone wall is supposed harder than climbing a rope then that needs to be handled by applying some sort of modifier to your roll. In other systems you would just have "climbing +5" or "Climbing dice pool 5" and things that are harder to climb would be handled be having a higher target number or requiring more successes, which is much less awkward at the table.

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Gronan of Simmerya

#383
February 28, 2014, 03:24:00 PM
Aaaaaand I see the delegate from Planet Moonbat has weighed in.
You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

The rules can\'t cure stupid, and the rules can\'t cure asshole.

Benoist

#384
February 28, 2014, 03:35:21 PM
I doubt gG ever played a BRP game in his life.

gamerGoyf

#385
February 28, 2014, 03:37:30 PM
You know what let's just have the abridged version of this because it's just going to be a waste of everyone's time. Those of you who understand why switching from THAC0 to BAB was an improvement already get it, good job. Those of you whose neckbeards are bristling with rage over that last sentence don't bother, I'm not willing to deal with this today.

Benoist

#386
February 28, 2014, 03:42:13 PM
Quote from: gamerGoyf;733695You know what let's just have the abridged version of this because it's just going to be a waste of everyone's time. Those of you who understand why switching from THAC0 to BAB was an improvement already get it, good job. Those of you whose neckbeards are bristling with rage over that last sentence don't bother, I'm not willing to deal with this today.

i.e.

Sacrosanct

#387
February 28, 2014, 03:51:21 PM
Pretty much.

Anyone who describes the following:

"Your chance to succeed is a % value.  Just roll the dice and if you get under, you succeed.  Don't even worry about any modifiers.  Easy.  In the very rare scenario where something happens that's extra hard or easy?  I'll tell you what penalty to use.  But that's the only time you need to worry about math; most times you don't."

as "super awkward" is either not very intelligent, or they are trolling on purpose.
D&D is not an "everyone gets a ribbon" game.  If you\'re stupid, your PC will die.  If you\'re an asshole, your PC will die (probably from the other PCs).  If you\'re unlucky, your PC may die.  Point?  PC\'s die.  Get over it and roll up a new one.

Gronan of Simmerya

#388
February 28, 2014, 04:08:47 PM
Switching FROM THAC0?  Bah.  I never USED THAC0.

Lookup chart all the way.  I find it easier.

Hell, when I was playing a lot of CHAMPIONS and Fantasy Hero, I even made up a hit chart for OCV vs DCV.
You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

The rules can\'t cure stupid, and the rules can\'t cure asshole.

Rincewind1

#389
February 28, 2014, 04:59:57 PM
Quote from: gamerGoyf;733695You know what let's just have the abridged version of this because it's just going to be a waste of everyone's time. Those of you who understand why switching from THAC0 to BAB was an improvement already get it, good job. Those of you whose neckbeards are bristling with rage over that last sentence don't bother, I'm not willing to deal with this today.

I'll have you known I wear a clean shave. Also, when did percentile systems adopt THACO or BAB?
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed
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