You two should jerk each other off and get it over with.

Quote from: Blackhand;475548It's not a separate topic.  No one wants to talk about Star Trek with you.

Everything else you said has been bullshit, too.

I don't agree with Koltar about a great many things, but I'll talk Star Trek with him anytime. The man has a passion for Trek, which may even exceed my own.

So there is at least one person jackass.

Quote from: danbuter;475552You two should jerk each other off and get it over with.

That would never work.

 I never date angst-filled depressed pessimists - they're just no damn fun.


- Ed C.


Also, there's the fact that he's not a woman

Quote from: PaladinCA;475554I don't agree with Koltar about a great many things, but I'll talk Star Trek with him anytime. The man has a passion for Trek, which may even exceed my own.

So there is at least one person jackass.

I have a passion for GOOD Star Trek - yes thats true...and I sometimes get opinionated as to what qualifies as Good Trek stories.


- Ed C.

Quote from: Blackhand;475504So you're going to dismiss everything because of one fruitloop theory?

Would that we could apply that to all of us.  We'd all be fucking DISMISSED.

everything?

Quote from: PaladinCA;475554I don't agree with Koltar about a great many things, but I'll talk Star Trek with him anytime. The man has a passion for Trek, which may even exceed my own.

So there is at least one person jackass.

I stand corrected.

Quote from: Koltar;475558That would never work.
 I never date angst-filled depressed pessimists - they're just no damn fun.
- Ed C.
Also, there's the fact that he's not a woman

While I appreciate you acknowledging that I am not a woman, I wanted to impress something else on you, having read this statement.

I'm not an angst filled depressed pessimist.  It's the exact opposite of that, actually.  I'm a fatalist.

I think it's fucking hilarious.  ALL OF IT.  I have a great time in life, and I generally don't worry about anything.

Maybe that's why I enjoy the GRIMDARK a little too much.  I feel right at home.

I want to see and imagine things that fucking frighten me.  All the time.  I also like to fight, verbally and physically.  A lot.  

When I take a long look at some things and try to imagine the eventualities, the fact that I can see all the bad ends makes me feel like I've got a one up on the world.  

The world doesn't hate me.  I only affect my immediate environment, and it doesn't notice me, but I don't hate the world.

I love it, and I want to fight it all!

Therefore, you do not have to be a depressed person who wants to die in order to enjoy Warhammer 40,000.  You do, however, have to have either a sense of humor that's blacker than night, OR have an unhealthy love of violence.

Preferably both.

QuoteIf the world was such an 'awful shitty place', then nobody would bother having romances, making love, having babies, then creating families - and the suicide rate would be 100 times what it is now.

The Dark Heresy/WARHAMMER 40K universe on the other hand IS a shitty crapfest universe where I would expect suicide rate to be very high.

Yet people do those things in th Imperium (otherwise there wouldn' tbe a population).

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;475565Yet people do those things in th Imperium (otherwise there wouldn' tbe a population).

Yeah thats another reason it has to be a Fictional setting.

I don't buy Earth's people having any hope at all beyond a certain point in that setting unless there was a freddom or democracy revolt started somewhere.

- Ed C.

In Warhammer 40,000, hope comes in the form of planet obliterating spaceships and legions of power armored superhuman warriors armed with holy machine gun rocket launchers.

Quote from: Blackhand;475564Maybe that's why I enjoy the GRIMDARK a little too much.  I feel right at home.

I want to see and imagine things that fucking frighten me.  All the time.  I also like to fight, verbally and physically.  A lot.  

You are sooooo edgy.  I nearly cut myself just reading your post.

Quote from: misterguignol;475570You are sooooo edgy.  I nearly cut myself just reading your post.

Naaaa...edgy is my buddy who owns a head shop and has tattoos all over his arms and hands and metal all stuck in his face.  He wears all kinds of uberkewl band stuff and does all kinds of uberkewl stuff with the "edgy" crowd.

Though, he did buy me (along with some other folks) a VIP ticket to the upcoming Soundgarden concert.  I guess I get to hang with the "edgy crowd" sometimes, but I'm really more of a square.  I can't really hang out, because I want to fight people.

All I do is practice martial arts and paint miniatures.  I don't even have a tatoo, much less a piercing.

Quote from: Blackhand;475575Though, he did buy me (along with some other folks) a VIP ticket to the upcoming Soundgarden concert.  I guess I get to hang with the "edgy crowd" sometimes, but I'm really more of a square.  I can't really hang out, because I want to fight people.

Soundgarden is pretty edgy.  If you time travel back to 1992.

Quote from: Blackhand;475495No, it is relevant to the thread, I never "admitted" it wasn't.  Stop putting words in my mouth.

It was Koltar who brought up the real world when he started talking about good guys and bad guys, so that's what he got as examples.

That cookie is yours to keep.

Koltar was just comparing a real world gov. with the fictional one. It wasn't a particularly useful comparison, but at least it wasn't just pe4rsonal attacks either. You just started flinging sarcasm and insults like monkeys fling poo... stop being a monkey. Your cookie can fuck off.

P.S. If you think putting forth the Florida "hanging chad" crap as evidence that the US voting system doesn't work is actual political discussion, then perhaps I wouldn't want to discuss politics with ya after all. There's enough really serious stuff to discuss and be concerned about.

P.P.S. This post here...

Quote from: Blackhand;475487It is a dig at Koltar, and I don't think I ever pretended it wasn't.  A lil' high minded on your part, I think.

Sorry you don't think it deserves any merit, but it does.  No matter what you think, strange things are going on in America - but that belongs on another forum, really.  Playing like it's all fun and games is silly, and this will quickly turn into a dig on you.

www.infowars.com

You win a cookie.

As an aside - have you guys seen Hobo with a Shotgun?  Rutger Hauer's awesome new flick.  Go see it and decide if it's "misery tourism" or if it's just fucking awesome.

... is where you admit it was just a dig on Koltar. Just call a spade a spade and move on. You have decent stuff to say pretty much any other time, you don't need to bust on Koltar to make a point. Oh, and nope, hadn't even heard of that movie before. I wouldn't call it misery tourism at all... gratuitous violence for sure, but IMO misery tourism is the Steal Away Jordan game, or perhaps The Road. Hell, I'm a Rutger Hauer fan from way back, I'd see Hobo.

Quote from: Blackhand;475504So you're going to dismiss everything because of one fruitloop theory?

Would that we could apply that to all of us.  We'd all be fucking DISMISSED.

Now THAT I agree with.

Quote from: Koltar;475544One of the rare instances where Jeff & I agree on something - a politics debate IS better in another thread.
A poster brought it up in this thread because he ran out of debating points and doesn't want to admit it.


- Ed C.

To be fair Ed, you did bring up real life. The 40k thing isn't up my alley either, but trying to compare this stuff to real life is kinda pointless ya hafta admit. I prefer a little more optimism in my entertainment as well, so I know where you're coming from, but then I've lived in the seedy underbelly of real life and escaped it, so going back for fun doesn't appeal to me.