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Our 'killer GM'

Started by Simlasa, February 06, 2014, 02:30:33 AM

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Bedrockbrendan

Quote from: Dogbert;729986Rewarding some people while leaving others hanging gives you the same result as punishing everyone but his favorites. You establish a privileged class.
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Oh boy.

robiswrong

Quote from: Dogbert;729986Rewarding some people while leaving others hanging gives you the same result as punishing everyone but his favorites. You establish a privileged class.

This can certainly be true if the 'privilege' is based upon the individual and not the behavior.

Beyond that, it's only true if the following occur:

1) The players are somehow coerced into playing the game
2) The GM has an obligation to cater to all players equally, and his preferred style is irrelevant
3) The players are only capable of playing games in a certain way - that is, if they are incapable of learning
4) The players and GM are incapable of reasonable discussion
5) The 'privilege' impacts what other players receive out of the game

Personally, I don't buy that.  In a hypothetical hack'n'slash game with a more social-leaning player, that player is there because he wants to be.  The GM has no obligation to add social elements, and the player has no mandate to be there.

The enjoyment that the social player gets out of the game is not impacted in any way by the fact that other players, who are more hack'n'slash, enjoy the game more than the social-leaning player.

A healthy response from the social-leaning players is to a) talk to the GM and ask for more social elements, and if declined b) decide whether or not the enjoyment that they get out of the game is worth their time investment.

To put it in another context, it's much like saying that I'm inviting people over to my house to watch hockey.  Some people like hockey more than others.  If someone likes baseball more than hockey, they can come over to my house, but they know what they're getting into, and I'm under no obligation to put on a baseball game.

That doesn't make the people that like hockey a "privileged class".

Gronan of Simmerya

Funny how "liking to play a certain way, and liking to play with people who like that too"

turned from

"liking to play with people who like the same thing"

into

"establishing a privileged class."

HINT:  When the card-carrying Socialist tells you your pseudo-Marxist rhetoric is laughably absurd, you've taken a wrong turn.
You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

The rules can\'t cure stupid, and the rules can\'t cure asshole.

thedungeondelver

Quote from: Old Geezer;731012HINT:  When the card-carrying Socialist tells you your pseudo-Marxist rhetoric is laughably absurd, you've taken a wrong turn.

P.J. O'Rourke tells of being a "student radical" in college in 1970 because being a "student radical" meant easier access to pot, hippie sex and not having to give a damn about long hair.  He started having second thoughts when they got cornered at gunpoint one night by the campus Maoists who forced them to sit through a "people's tribunal" re-education session, complete with denouncements, vows to re-dedicate themselves to revolutionary ideals, and so on.  

If you go carryin' pictures of chairman Mao, you ain't gonna make with anyone anyhow.
THE DELVERS DUNGEON


Mcbobbo sums it up nicely.

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