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Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???

Started by Spinachcat, February 05, 2014, 02:45:28 AM

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Shipyard Locked

Quote from: Endless Flight;729933The Transformers Movie is overrated by a lot of people. Once Prime dies, the movie wilts until the last ten minutes when Unicron is destroyed by the Matrix.

I'm surprised that a person currently sporting an Adam West Batman avatar hasn't realized that the Transformers Movie's charm lies mostly in its high camp factor and awesome "what the fuck!?" moments. ;)

I mean, it has a Weird Al music number involving pop-culture burbling junkyard robots voiced by Eric Idle and stuff...

Emperor Norton

Quote from: Endless Flight;729933The Transformers Movie is overrated by a lot of people. Once Prime dies, the movie wilts until the last ten minutes when Unicron is destroyed by the Matrix.

Its worth watching, didn't say it was excellent (though I don't think its that as bad as you seem to think it is, its certainly enjoyable). At any rate, puts the actual TV show, and the GI Joe cartoon movie from the same time period to shame. (with the exception of the opening of the GI Joe movie with the ridiculous music and the statue of liberty that had nothing to do with the movie, but was probably the best GI Joe toy commercial ever made).

Honestly, I didn't like the TF cartoons at all much until the latest cartoon (Transformers: Prime). The only thing that kept me liking the franchise was the toys and the comics.

Endless Flight

Quote from: Shipyard Locked;729938I'm surprised that a person currently sporting an Adam West Batman avatar hasn't realized that the Transformers Movie's charm lies mostly in its high camp factor and awesome "what the fuck!?" moments. ;)

I mean, it has a Weird Al music number involving pop-culture burbling junkyard robots voiced by Eric Idle and stuff...

Hey, I'm one of the few guys who likes Rodimus Prime better than Optimus Prime. I don't think the movie is all that bad! :D

Rincewind1

Any adult in love with Transformers film is overrating that piece.
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

Endless Flight

Quote from: Rincewind1;729967Any adult in love with Transformers film is overrating that piece.

I can barely watch the live-action movies any longer. The new one this summer will probably be absolutely wretched.

Rincewind1

Quote from: Endless Flight;729968I can barely watch the live-action movies any longer. The new one this summer will probably be absolutely wretched.

Well, I really enjoyed the second one, didn't enjoy the first one ( which I watched for some reasons later on). It probably had something to do with the fact that I was on a fourth day of a week long bender with my mates when we went to watch it. I was so hammered I only noticed that I had half my body tanned, half not (I fell asleep on the veranda) two days later.
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

crkrueger

Quote from: Rincewind1;729967Any adult in love with Transformers film is overrating that piece.
The only piece worth watching in Transformers was Megan Fox.
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S'mon

Quote from: Gizmoduck5000;729932I hate DMing 3E - it's like auditing your taxes. I don't know why people subject themselves to it.

I just started a Pathfinder campaign - 2 sessions in. It is a worry, but a lot of problems go away if you don't worry about them; I have no intention of statting any monsters or NPCs from scratch. I have a couple 'big book of NPC statblock' books I can riff of of, too.  Eg last session a mob of dockworkers were attacking a young aristocrat, for both I just used a 1st level 'soldier' stat block, removed the armour, and gave them d6 weapons (clubs, rapier). I even improvised a special attack where the leader threw a pewter beer mug at a PC's head; that wasn't any harder than in 1e-BX.

With 4e, you can do it the same way, use pre-existing stats; but 4e monster and npc stats are much faster and actually quite fun to create; once you have role & level the game gives you the stats just like pre-3e derives most stats from the hit dice (then assign AC & damage, 4e does that for you too); mostly I'm just thinking up fun special abilities that fit the character or monster.

With the Pathfinder game, the one thing I'm worrying about is running an Adventure Path and having to look up a bunch of spells for high level spellcasting NPCs in the books. This is in theory no different from pre-3e, 1e magic-users also have a bunch of spells and the GM ought to know what they do, but I guess my brain is less flexible and it feels more like work, especially with the 'buff' spells. Also I think perhaps the 'my precious encounter' design in the published adventures puts a load on the GM to understand NPC abilities in order to run the fight 'properly'.
4e doesn't have that prep issue, everything is fully described in the stat block and it's possible to run 19th level spellcasting NPCs without having looked over their stat block in advance (though it helps).

Omega

Back on topic...

Seems indeed like WOTC plans to market 5th ed as Next.

What is really sad though is that Kaijudo gets a damn cartoon series and D&D doesnt.

Votan

Quote from: S'mon;730009With the Pathfinder game, the one thing I'm worrying about is running an Adventure Path and having to look up a bunch of spells for high level spellcasting NPCs in the books. This is in theory no different from pre-3e, 1e magic-users also have a bunch of spells and the GM ought to know what they do, but I guess my brain is less flexible and it feels more like work, especially with the 'buff' spells.

I find the combination of spells, feats, buffs, and magic items make it take a while to parse a stat-block.  AD&D (at least when I was really into it) had fewer combinations and I'd memorized a lot of the standard stuff.  I was never able to do the same with late 3E (was okay with core rules) and that shows things a lot.

In a world of endless diversity of nifty effects, there is a lot to be said for the 4E approach.  I wish it made characters feel more fragile, but that is relatively easy to build in if it really bothers somebody.

Phillip

#70
It'll be NeXT; 6E will be Pippin; 7E will be Newton; 8E will be Lisa; 9E will be Apple III.
And we are here as on a darkling plain  ~ Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight, ~ Where ignorant armies clash by night.

Endless Flight

Just number them like the Superbowls.

Dungeons & Dragons V.

Gives it a regal flair.

:D

Phillip

Quote from: Opaopajr;729890That said there's always the energy drink tie-ins for mo' money. D&D can work something out with one of them, right? (Wandering) Monster, (PC Build) Rockstar, (Tangency) Go Girl!... one of 'em has gotta work.
They've done soda pop (from Jones Soda) already!
And we are here as on a darkling plain  ~ Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight, ~ Where ignorant armies clash by night.

flyerfan1991

Quote from: Phillip;730315They've done soda pop (from Jones Soda) already!

That Dwarven Draught tasted awesome.  Just sayin'.

Endless Flight

They would taste better with Elmore art from the boxed sets.

:D