Quote from: Spinachcat;1119107Zweihander is OSR as it's a Warhammer clone, so I can't fault Zwei from being in the OSR category, no more than someone declaring mini-D6 being OSR.

I never thought of it as OSR, but now you mention it...

Quote from: Lynn;1119097Right, but putting it into bundles doesn't mean they are paying you your X% of full price, right? Otherwise, they are setting your prices for you, and that's never a good thing.

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To put it another way. I normally get $1.99. When its in a bundle, i get 96c

Quote from: Spinachcat;1119107Zweihander is OSR as it's a Warhammer clone, so I can't fault Zwei from being in the OSR category, no more than someone declaring mini-D6 being OSR. It's not a bad thing to expand OSR beyond "Based on TSR era D&D".

First, it's not a clone.
Second, a warhammer-based system isn't OSR anymore than a CoC-based system would be OSR.

OSR is based on old-edition D&D.

Quote from: Winterblight;1119134To put it another way. I normally get $1.99. When its in a bundle, i get 96c

Is it then a set % of the USSRP or some other mechanism?

Quote from: RPGPundit;1119138First, it's not a clone.
Second, a warhammer-based system isn't OSR anymore than a CoC-based system would be OSR.

OSR is based on old-edition D&D.

As I said in my blog the ship has sailed on that. The things I point out when this comes are

1) There is a group of hobbyists whose primary interest is playing, publishing, and/or promoting material for classic editions of D&D.
2) These hobbyists have other interests and for those that publish they often stand alongside their classic D&D works.
3) OSR is an organic term that developed in the late 2000s. The earliest formal use was the OSR storefront on Lulu. Which included Gore by Goblinoid Games. However no one person or entity was the primary driver of its adoption. It persisted because it was fun to use and it echos TSR in a fun way. And it persisted because there was never a group or individual who had social, moral or legal authority to say that is OSR and that isn't. Because one thing consistent about classic D&D hobbyist is their negativity to anybody trying to exert authority over their hobby. A negativity born of decades of criticism that their favorite games are old and broken and the fact they having fun is a self-delusion.

OSR is more accurately describe as the label for the group of hobbyist who play, promote, and publish for classic D&D and anything else that interest them. With that anything else that interest them being a broad slice of the hobby.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1119138OSR is based on old-edition D&D.

I don't think everyone will agree with you. At the least, I've heard people refer to Traveller clones (e.g., Cepheus Engine) as OSR.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1119163I don't think everyone will agree with you.

Something that's never happened since the dawn of time.  But not everyone agrees with those who say OSR is whatever someone wants it to be, either.  If the former is disqualified then so is the latter.

Ultimately, it's what the buyer feels is "OSR" that counts.  And its inevitable that a good sized chunk of those who like the OSR label will want it to encompass everything that they themselves like, as that's very validating.