Quote from: matthulhu;758039What I like about the basic/"advanced " split is Basic gives a great baseline that's hard to argue (from a "but this is a core book" perspective, at least— Lord knows people can argue anything). In other words: this campaign is Basic, plus Paladins, Monks, and Gnomes.

I intend to use Basic + the classes and races of 1e. Might restrict some classes by race, I have a hard time with demihuman paladins, and while I can stomach Elf rangers (eehhhhh) a Halfling ranger is a bit beyond the pale. Dragonborn Paladin? Go fuck yourself and fuck your character concept, go bitch on a forum.

You get it! It's all about configuration. For example my game will probably go something like this...everything in the PHB is fine but multiclassing works like so....and we are going with gritty baseline for healing and only 3 attuned magic items and feats/stat bumps are in. 2e with 3e easy peasey.

@GX_Sigma  So what does a "living ruleset"
@mikemearls · basically, before we change anything we will make sure it is a problem for most groups
 
 
@mikemearls · we'll also share and public playtest changes *before* adding them to the game
 
 
@mikemearls ·  finally, if we have an idea for an improvement we will share and test before presenting it as an option

Quote from: Mistwell;758221@mikemearls · basically, before we change anything we will make sure it is a problem for most groups

This part is bemusing.

Quote from: RPGPundit;758030Quite a few, I'm betting. Particularly old-schoolers or people who prefer a more basic style of game.

Then we have different ideas of quite a few when it comes to D&D.  A couple thousand isn't quite a few for D&D.  

Quote from: RPGPundit;758030In fact, I predict that people will take the basic PDF and create modifications for it that are totally different from the 3 rulebooks.
People may form communities online to exchange such ideas.
We may very well end up seeing a bunch of 5e Basic "Clones".

Oh, I'm sure. I don't see quite a few buying it up.  I see the same quite the few buying all the 5e Basic "Clones".

Quote from: RPGPundit;758030Quite a few, I'm betting. Particularly old-schoolers or people who prefer a more basic style of game.  

In fact, I predict that people will take the basic PDF and create modifications for it that are totally different from the 3 rulebooks.
People may form communities online to exchange such ideas.
We may very well end up seeing a bunch of 5e Basic "Clones".

I'm not sure if you convinced me about 5th edition or 10th edition, where the design philosophy of 5th edition will be universally praised by people initiated by 5th edition as the model for 10th edition.  All of the clones of 5th edition will be used as a model for this 10th edition.  

The cyclical nature of D&D has been revealed.  The prophecy of Old Geezer has begun.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;756992I'm not gaming at the moment, it'd just be theory, alas I can tell old gaming stories but those get boring.

But I'm glad to see I've hit a nerve. You long boasted about being an outsider from the Swine mainstream, now you post threads about being an Insider - your capitalisation. We now see that your problem with shills was just that you'd never been asked to be one before.

I'm not sure from the above that you get what Swine are.  Unless by "Swine mainstream" you mean "Mainstream thinking among Swine", though even that wouldn't make a lot of sense because different sorts of Swine have radically different ideas, the one thing they all have in common being only their extreme pretentiousness about how the way they play RPGs is something "better" than the "unwashed masses" of standard D&D players.

The mainstream of Regular Roleplayers were never "swine".  The mainstream of the industry, and the intellectual side of the hobby, was occasionally taken over by swine who tried to move the hobby into their ideological lines, which usually led to disaster.  I railed against those attempted takeovers, sure; but its completely in line with my thinking that the people the industry and hobby SHOULD be listening to are regular roleplayers.  Like me. And now, fortunately, they are.

Quote from: RPGPundit;758406but its completely in line with my thinking that the people the industry and hobby SHOULD be listening to are regular roleplayers.  Like me. And now, fortunately, they are.

:rotfl:
This ranks up there as one of the most absurdly funny comments you have ever said.
I'm almost tempted to believe you're sincere about it.

Quote from: Sommerjon;758436 :rotfl:
This ranks up there as one of the most absurdly funny comments you have ever said.
I'm almost tempted to believe you're sincere about it.

Why? Since you don't actually game? You admitted it 2-3 years ago right here like Ezekiel did on TBP to Black Vulmea a week ago.

Quote from: Marleycat;758439Why? Since you don't actually game? You admitted it 2-3 years ago right here like Ezekiel did on TBP to Black Vulmea a week ago.

What the fuck are you talking about?  Since when do I not game?

Quote from: Sommerjon;758472What the fuck are you talking about?  Since when do I not game?

Like I said you said so. I assumed you told the truth?

Quote from: Marleycat;758476Like I said you said so. I assumed you told the truth?

You have selective memory then, not surprising.

Quote from: Sommerjon;758478You have selective memory then, not surprising.

Dodging the question. Do you or do you not game?

Quote from: Fiasco;758494Dodging the question. Do you or do you not game?

Look it up yourself.

Quote from: Sommerjon;758636Look it up yourself.

That is pretty much looking like a no.

Quote from: dragoner;758689That is pretty much looking like a no.

Yep an armchair gamer, awesome.