I saw that there is an official DnD cookbook as well. Considering the source material, I'm suprised that all of the ingredients exist in the material plane.

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Quote from: M2A0 on September 04, 2024, 10:32:50 AMIt's not even authentic Seattle food, that would be Teriyaki.

Don't forget some awesome clam chowder, quick service Hawaiian pork & cabbage, tons of Korean BBQ, and more.

The 4 food groups of Seattle are in descending order of density: Teriyaki, Vietnamese (Pho/Banh Mi centric), Thai, & Korean.

The best Korean in the US outside of LA is clustered in South Tacoma/Lakewood.

I'm quite aware. During the years I spent at JBLM, I tried a lot the Asian foods in the area. Not all were good, but some were fantastic.

Nice!

Spent 6 years between Ft. Lewis & Yakima.

Three years in Bremerton at the Navy base, then three years of college in Seattle. Best hum bao came from a Korean BBQ place on 2nd Ave and best Italian came from Cardarelli's on 1st Ave.

Quote from: RPGPundit on September 08, 2024, 05:20:31 AMIt's obviously taken from some Stock Photo of "executives eating multicultural food at restaurant".

That would at least have given the piece cohesion. This thing lacks that.

You have Mexican-esque food alongside Asian-esque foods and mixed in there is who knows what.

Its a diversity splash.

Also parts of that piece look suspiciously familiar.

Quote from: Eric Diaz on September 04, 2024, 11:05:21 AMCan someone post the image being discussed? The link doesn't work for me.

Thank you.

Sure here you go:

Quote from: zircher on September 04, 2024, 12:37:06 PMIn that image, I can actually give the food a pass since it appears that it might be conjured.  (Imagine rolling on a random table which is how you get tacos and sushi to begin with.)  The elf with the chop sticks on the other hand is wrong since you can't acquire that skill with a magic trick.  :-)

We have Samurai, Ninja, and Monks in D&D...but you have an issue with chopsticks Which are era appropriate and first used over 5000 years ago?

I am pretty sure this is a sort of comedic picture of a DM saying to the players: OK You cast Hero's Feast. Let's go around the table and everyone tell me what your character wants the Feast spell to create?
Player 1: Tacos!
Player 2: Burgers!
Player 3: Sushi!
Player 4: Samosas!
Player 5: A big giant turkey leg!

None of the rest of the book is particularly light hearted or comedic, all the D&D editions at some point had depictions of breaking the fourth wall. But for some reason this era's grumpy old dudes cannot cope with it in this edition because it's a new depiction of an old concept.

But they didn't freak out when players traveled to Chicago in the Immortals edition.

And they didn't freak out when Gygax put a bowling alley in Castle Greyhawk.

And they didn't freak out about robots and lasers in an AD&D module.

And they didn't freak out about a cartoon in the AD&D books depicting characters playing as modern accountants.

But tacos, sushi and burgers. OH NOES!

Quote from: Mistwell on September 09, 2024, 11:27:10 PMNone of the rest of the book is particularly light hearted or comedic

I'd argue that much of the art has a "whimsical" feel that seems more Willy Wonka-esque than ever before (although there are a few good pieces in there too). I'll admit I find the 2024PHB to be mechanically strong, but the art keeps detracting from my enjoyment of the product.

But as far as having modern multicultural food goes, I couldn't give a shit.

I just can't muster up any give a shit about this.  Okay, hard shelled tacos are ahistorical.  Most D&D campaigns aren't historical and aren't even trying to be historical.  The Sword Coast in Forgotten Realms is sort of Medieval Europe.  They also wanted to do fantasy conquistadors so the new world analogue was discovered and colonized about 130 years before the current time in the setting.  So do they have chilis and tomatoes on the Sword Coast?  Yeah.  Maybe.  I guess.  They could.  Is it historical?  Not really at all.  Does that matter?  Forgotten Realms has never been anything like historical so not really.  I might be able to muster up some give a shit if we were talking about Dark Ages Call of Cthulhu.  For D&D?  No. 

Quote from: Mistwell on September 09, 2024, 11:27:10 PMBut tacos, sushi and burgers. OH NOES!

Gotta agree with Mistwell on this one. This is pretty low on my "Woke stupidity" meter. More like, this pic is just goofy, like a lot of D&D before it.

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Quote from: Mistwell on September 09, 2024, 11:27:10 PMBut tacos, sushi and burgers. OH NOES!

Gotta agree with Mistwell on this one. This is pretty low on my "Woke stupidity" meter. More like, this pic is just goofy, like a lot of D&D before it.

How many grains of sand make a beach?

First the "Totally Not Mexorcs, trust us bro!"
Then the twink Dwarves in a bakery/forge (WTAFF!?)
Next the multicolor Elves
And now this.

It's not Forgotten Realms or any other D&D setting (even if WotC says it is) It's current year Seattle.

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Quote from: Eric Diaz on September 04, 2024, 11:05:21 AMCan someone post the image being discussed? The link doesn't work for me.

Thank you.

Sure here you go:

My issue with the picture has little to do with the food. Like several of their pieces is looks like corporate art with a fantasy overlay.

Quote from: Mistwell on September 09, 2024, 11:27:10 PMBut they didn't freak out when players traveled to Chicago in the Immortals edition.

And they didn't freak out when Gygax put a bowling alley in Castle Greyhawk.

And they didn't freak out about robots and lasers in an AD&D module.

And they didn't freak out about a cartoon in the AD&D books depicting characters playing as modern accountants.

But tacos, sushi and burgers. OH NOES!

Some were upset when player characters traveled to Chicago in the Immortals edition.

Some were upset when they put a bowling alley in Castle Greyhawk

Some were upset when they put robots and lasers in an AD&D module.

I'm old enough to remember there were people back in the day who were upset about some of these things, either at my local gaming store or at cons. Were they outraged? Naw, just upset and thought it was stupid.

So what you said is patently false.

Quote from: Brad on September 04, 2024, 01:08:05 PMThe best thing to do would be have the Mexican orcs eat flour tortilla enchiladas.

Why not have them protest spells culturally appropriating their food? It would be on brand for Nu-D&D.

Quote from: Thornhammer on September 04, 2024, 11:32:09 PMA little surprised they didn't go with a Happy Meal.

McD&D with extra Beholder Sauce.

Oh, and a small Diet Coke.

If Hasbro gets their way that's the future of D&D: Branded Happy Meals.

Quote from: blackstone on September 10, 2024, 11:29:33 AMWere they outraged? Naw, just upset and thought it was stupid.

So what you said is patently false.

Considering that he said "freak out" and you want to split "outraged" vs "just upset and thought it was stupid" then what he said is not patently false unless freak out = upset and thought it was stupid, which isn't really what I'd think of as freak[ing] out.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on September 07, 2024, 02:19:18 PMIMO, the biggest problem with the Heroes' Feast depicted is that there's nothing there but the most banal and basic idea of 'food.' No historic verisimilitude; no cultural, mythic or legendary associations; no fantasy, beauty and wonder; not even exoticism ... it's just so bland.

As I commented on Twitter perhaps the most disappointing thing about Nu-D&D is it doesn't inspire people to want to learn more. I got Holmes and within a decade I had C&S and pretty much all the books the Gieses had written by then, and had tracked down a copy of Bonewitz (although the SJG version from a decade later is much more useful for gamers). At the same time I'd read (or tried, some of these were too much for me back then) The Hero with a Thousand Faces, The Mabinogion, and Mallory. All were due to pointers in the RPGs world.

And because of that I knew how jousting was scored, what at least late medieval food looked like (because I learned we had cook books), the origins of the English Parliament, the five metals of antiquity, what a parsec is (yeah, Traveller, but the point stands), and lots of stuff useful in everyday life and stuff useful only at bar trivia.

My wife jokes I should write a book Everything I Learned I Learned Because of D&D. She's not wrong about the reality although probably is about the book.

I didn't take that because of the game but the culture around it. C&S was written by people who wanted medieval authentic four decades before L&D. The Dragon had articles on historical names (my SCA name came from there) and theories of myths, the organization and weapons of the Mongol Hordes, and so on.

And I cannot imagine a 10 year old getting an intro D&D book today being inspired to take that journey because the culture around the game, especially that of its producer, isn't like that at all. If anything it wants to wall off everything from the game.