Voice acting can be cool - if you're decent at it. On the other hand, we've got a guy who literally sounds like Peppy Le Pew (when playing a French Canadian) or a mentally challenged person with a sore throat (when playing an orc). It's distracting. The characters - and game - would be better without such "efforts."

Seanchai

I genuinely stick to first person when being NPC's or playing my own PC's "I do this, I do that.." In general I prefer making my games come alive by the people in it--the voices, the quirks, and so on of each person involved.

Quote from: flyingmice;257160I have zero patience for people who have zero patience, and even less - that's negative patience - for GMs who try to ram a plot down my throat.

The reference to plot was actually a joke.  The point being that the other four players at the table aren't there to watch you flirt with a barmaid played uncomfortably by the DM.

QuoteYou'd be out of my games so fast your arse would leave skidmarks, and I'd run out of your games so fast my sneakers would melt. I have no tolerance for intolerance, especially for people who brag about how intolerant they are.

Oh noes!   You won't let me play with you because there's a play style I don't enjoy!

What the fuck ever man.

Quote from: Jackalope;257311The reference to plot was actually a joke.  The point being that the other four players at the table aren't there to watch you flirt with a barmaid played uncomfortably by the DM.

I find this hard to believe given your comments in other threads, I feel this is simply a tactic you've adopted to attempt to save face, and score points for whatever imaginary game you're playing in your head. In fact I generally feel your posts on this board are the only real roleplaying you actually do. (Even though I suspect you're a jackass in real life too, so it's not much of a stretch for you. Nothing like setting the bar low.)

Quote from: Engine;257161See, that's why I love Diablo II; you do away, for the most part, with that irritating "characterization" bullshit, and focus on what really matters: killing shit and taking their stuff. Your game must be awesome.

At least I run a campaign.  You can knock my GMing style when you actually rise to the challenge of running a real campaign.  You're only able to affect such an elitist position because you spend months between sessions, and have been playing with the same group for many, many years.

Also, you apparently have no idea what characterization means.  It is not the same thing as having conversations in character.

Quote from: Serious Paul;257314I find this hard to believe given your comments in other threads, I feel this is simply a tactic you've adopted to attempt to save face, and score points for whatever imaginary game you're playing in your head. In fact I generally feel your posts on this board are the only real roleplaying you actually do. (Even though I suspect you're a jackass in real life too, so it's not much of a stretch for you. Nothing like setting the bar low.)

Paul - you read my mind and stole my words! Expect a letter from my lawyer! :O

-clash

Quote from: Serious Paul;257314I find this hard to believe given your comments in other threads, I feel this is simply a tactic you've adopted to attempt to save face, and score points for whatever imaginary game you're playing in your head. In fact I generally feel your posts on this board are the only real roleplaying you actually do. (Even though I suspect you're a jackass in real life too, so it's not much of a stretch for you. Nothing like setting the bar low.)

Dude, I do way more role-playing that you're lame ass.  You and your boyfriend are the suspicious ones, what with Engine claiming he creates detailed backgrounds for every single NPC that appears in his game (anyone with real DMing experience knows that's impossible to do with a weekly game), and you're highly unlikely claims you've been gaming with the same people for twenty years, and your constant claims of superiority in every way.

Quote from: Jackalope;257319Also, you apparently have no idea what characterization means.  It is not the same thing as having conversations in character.

This is true. Although I fail to see anyone who suggests that it is not true.

Again I feel you're looking obfuscate the discussion by grasping at straws to save face. Given the self esteem issues you've displayed to date it's obvious you're sensitive about your game, and it's quality, as well as your role in it. Until you resolve those issues nothing we, the collective, can say will matter.

The rest of what you have to say, in post #37, is your usual tripe. Maybe it'll work, and you'll move the spotlight from your piss poor attitude-but I think everyone here really knows what kind of internet troll you really are.

Quote from: KenHR;257173Yeah, I admire folks who can think on their feet fast enough to improv first-person dialogue that doesn't end up sounding forced or stupid.  It's just not my strength, and rather than bog the game down with my awkwardness, I resort to description for the most part.

Yeah, that's kind of where I'm coming from.

Like I was at a con a few months back, and I played in a game called "All Freeport Must Be Eaten," which was (of course) Pirates Vs Zombies.  We were each given characters, and I ended up with this pirate chick who had secretly stolen all the other pirates gold, and was hiding the fact that she was pregnant by one of the other characters.

The guy playing that character was a professional actor, with years of stage experience, and really strong improvisational skills.  And he totally ruined the game for me.  Because he kept launching into character, and doing an excellent job of it, and expecting me to interact with him.  And I'm still trying to understand the rules of the game (I'd never played All Flesh Must be Eaten before), figure out whats going in the adventure, etc.  Plus, I'm playing a female character that supposed to be romantically involved with his character, and that's just weird.

So basically, I spent the entire session getting constant reminders that I'm not a good improv actor, and failing to perform well in response to his prompts.  He would fire off some snappy dialog at me and I'd respond with "I uh...uh wait...um..I...am not sure how to respond to that."

It really gets on my nerves, and when it doesn't move the game forward it does so doubly.

QuoteNot that description precludes character development.  Vivid description and appropriate actions can do a lot in that area.

And this is why Engine is a complete and total cocksmock.  Because he rather asininely believes that if you aren't a good improv actor, you can't develop your character.

I'm actually very good at improv if it's from the third person perspective.  Years of creative writing have honed those skills.  I'm just not a good improve actor, and don't think it adds much to the game.

Quote from: Serious Paul;257323This is true. Although I fail to see anyone who suggests that it is not true.

Uh, Engine, like a few posts ago, when he called my game the equivalent of Diablo?  Have you alreayd forgotten that, you stupid elitist fuckwad?

QuoteAgain I feel you're looking obfuscate the discussion by grasping at straws to save face. Given the self esteem issues you've displayed to date it's obvious you're sensitive about your game, and it's quality, as well as your role in it. Until you resolve those issues nothing we, the collective, can say will matter.

Bite me, assmuncher.  All I did was offer an opinion, and you and your faggot boyfriend jumped all over me, because you just constantly need to reinforce your own fucked up sense of superiority.

Quote from: Jackalope;257329Uh, Engine, like a few posts ago, when he called my game the equivalent of Diablo?

Well I guess because according to your own descriptions your game is like Diablo.  But at this point I'm not willing to expend any more of my time wastefully pretending like you're willing to have a civil discourse on your game, as you're quite obviously not an actual gamer, but a bitter non gamer who's only here to score points in some pretend internet game the rest of could care less about.

Good day.

Quote from: Jackalope;257329Dude, I do way more role-playing that you're lame ass.

How can you even begin to back this up?  Do you play in his games?

Quote from: Jackalope;257329Uh, Engine, like a few posts ago, when he called my game the equivalent of Diablo?  Have you alreayd forgotten that, you stupid elitist fuckwad?

Wow, you described a major part of the hobby (for some people) and called it tripe.  What did you expect would happen?

Quote from: Jackalope;257329Bite me, assmuncher.  All I did was offer an opinion, and you and your faggot boyfriend jumped all over me, because you just constantly need to reinforce your own fucked up sense of superiority.

Wow, assmuncher.  That gave me quite a laugh.  Haven't used that word since I was 10.  Hey Beavis, calm the fuck down.

Something I will address: Voice Acting is fun but not a requirement by any means. I would never push a player into doing something that they were uncomfortable with. The game is meant to be fun, and we all have limits on what we can do or what we find fun.

Voice acting is lots of fun and the primary appeal of roleplaying for me. Rolling dice and killing stuff is great, but I pretty much game for the dialogue and the banter with other characters. I find third-person narration very dull, especially when it comes to actual interaction.

Jackalope, never change. Your acidic lunacy makes me laugh.

Quote from: Serious Paul;257350Well I guess because according to your own descriptions your game is like Diablo.  But at this point I'm not willing to expend any more of my time wastefully pretending like you're willing to have a civil discourse on your game, as you're quite obviously not an actual gamer, but a bitter non gamer who's only here to score points in some pretend internet game the rest of could care less about.

Dude, you are totally describing yourself and Engine.  Have you forgotten that he has admitted that you guys only play every few months, and have no regular campaign?  That you've been playing with the same group of guys for twenty years?  That you don't go to cons, that you don't interact with other gamers outside this board, and that between the two of you you have the collective experience gaming that I had at age 14?

Have you forgotten all that?  Because I haven't.

You're the bitter ex-gamer, describing a game that only exists in your own head.  That's why your game is so Mark Rein-Hagen definition of "perfect gaming": Because it doesn't exist.

I mean seriously, do you really think anyone  believes that absolute nonsense you and Engine post regularly as if it were based on real play experience?  

And where the fuck do you get off calling me a troll, or talking about civil discussion, when you've derailed this thread by ganging up on me with your boyfriend and attacking me personally?

I mean what the fuck?  I think excessive voice acting is more tedious and obnoxious than useful, therefore it's okay for you to accuse me of having low self-esteem, being a troll, an being a liar?

Would you like me to post some video of my next session, on this upcoming Tuesday?  Or the next session I'll be playing in, on Monday?

How long would we have to wait for footage from your next session?  A week?  A month?  Several months?  A year? Forever?