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"In AD&D domestic cats were better fighters than 1st level magic-users"

Started by Age of Fable, May 28, 2012, 12:57:49 PM

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DestroyYouAlot

#150
May 30, 2012, 11:15:23 AM
Quote from: Drohem;543530Does the Cat Lady from the Simpsons have a cat-throwing At-Will ability?

Also, I think that a gaggle of cats sounds more menacing.

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#151
May 30, 2012, 11:19:10 AM
Quote from: Exploderwizard;543773I don't know what the big deal is.

A domestic cat is no different than other super low level monster vs a 1st level magic user: whomever wins initiative will probably win the fight.

Yeah, and this is not unique to 1e/2e AD&D either.  In 3.5 D&D a 1st level Cleric and cast Summon Monster I and bring forth an number of low-Hit Die creatures that can potentially kill a 1st level MU; or any other 1st level character for that matter.  (I'm partial to Celestial Badgers myself ;)).

crkrueger

#152
May 30, 2012, 12:36:53 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;543720rescue Old Deuteronomy from Macavity
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#153
May 30, 2012, 11:23:35 PM
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#154
May 30, 2012, 11:41:26 PM
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#155
May 31, 2012, 12:28:29 AM
Quote from: Exploderwizard;543773I don't know what the big deal is.

A domestic cat is no different than other super low level monster vs a 1st level magic user: whomever wins initiative will probably win the fight.



Technically, it's not a big deal, but it's still very weird and often unintentionally hilarious. In AD&D, the domestic cat can potentially pulverize multiple 0-level characters in a single round, and this is because of the way Hit Points scale in the game. It's not just about the stat block for a domestic cat, because other small, innocuous-looking animals can inflict Hit Point damage.

In AD&D, many (if not most) "normal people" are zero level characters with only 1d6 Hit Points, so if you're interested in taking down some unruly peasants, then find a way to control a few cats. Heck, even a few squirrels will do. And now you know why people fear Druids.... ;)

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#156
May 31, 2012, 01:37:58 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;543921Im sorry, what is this? Without any context posted whatsoever, I may have to lead to some drastic conclusions...

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#157
May 31, 2012, 09:46:36 AM
The stupidity isn't that a housecat has a better chance than it should to kill someone, it's the fact that someone thought it necessary to stat up a housecat at all.
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#158
May 31, 2012, 12:02:38 PM
Quote from: daniel_ream;543927Contiki is a web server that runs on a Commodore 64, a 1982-vintage personal computer.
Contiki, Holy Wayback machine Batman!

Kids today just wouldn't believe it.
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Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

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Planet Algol

#159
May 31, 2012, 01:28:31 PM
I am currently writing up a dungeon for this weekend with the AD&D Cat, Domestic as adversaries; I may call it "The Catacombs of Bast"

I'm thinking I need to stat up Cat, Domestic, Giant for giant lairs as well...
Yeah, but who gives a fuck? You? Jibba?

Well congrats. No one else gives a shit, so your arguments are a waste of breath.

Black Vulmea

#160
May 31, 2012, 01:38:53 PM
Quote from: Planet Algol;544130I am currently writing up a dungeon for this weekend with the AD&D Cat, Domestic as adversaries; I may call it "The Catacombs of Bast"
I predict a cataclysm.

Quote from: Planet Algol;544130I'm thinking I need to stat up Cat, Domestic, Giant for giant lairs as well...
Giant lynx. Done.
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#161
June 01, 2012, 03:00:13 AM
Throwing a boot at a cat is a pretty normal thing. Practically a cliche. Does this make the cat attack you? Nope. Attacking a housecat makes it run from you, not fight. The cat's fine with its damage the way it is - because except in very strange, entirely abnormal circumstances, the cat simply doesn't attack the magic user. In situations where the cat is actually going to attack, it's a cat that has something very strange, abnormal, going on. It's Greebo, and he's going to stitch you right up.

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#162
June 01, 2012, 03:48:41 AM
Quote from: KenHR;544026The stupidity isn't that a housecat has a better chance than it should to kill someone, it's the fact that someone thought it necessary to stat up a housecat at all.

Maybe someone wanted to show how wimpy magic-users were.

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#163
June 01, 2012, 05:04:24 AM
Quote from: Planet Algol;544130I am currently writing up a dungeon for this weekend with the AD&D Cat, Domestic as adversaries; I may call it "The Catacombs of Bast"

I'm thinking I need to stat up Cat, Domestic, Giant for giant lairs as well...
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#164
June 01, 2012, 07:13:41 AM
Quote from: Planet Algol;544130I am currently writing up a dungeon for this weekend with the AD&D Cat, Domestic as adversaries; I may call it "The Catacombs of Bast"

Quote from: Black Vulmea;544135I predict a cataclysm.


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