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Title: Improvised gaming aids.
Post by: winkingbishop on October 28, 2010, 09:03:11 AM
Improvised gaming aids!

Did the guy with all the miniatures get the flu? Things get out of hand? When has weird shit lying around helped out your game?  

This happened to us just last night.  We were playing AD&D in a campus board room, so we were stuck with whatever we brought into the room with us.  For most of the night, narration and scratch paper was working just fine, as you would expect it to.  However, once the evening wore on and we managed to get into some trickier situations, it was getting more challenging to keep track of one or two fights.

It was only a weird coincidence that the library was getting rid of some old educational kits that included some "Koala Counters," that I had them with my gaming stuff, and that I was brave enough to volunteer them.  Worked like charm.  Bet you didn't know an AD&D game could look like this:
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Post by: Gruntfuttock on October 28, 2010, 10:15:04 AM
Jesus!

I don't know what their stat block is like - but they'd frighten me!
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Post by: Benoist on October 28, 2010, 12:17:14 PM
Well, looking at this pic of my wife's set-up when she was running the game, you can see a ton of improvised elements:

(http://enrill.net/images/photos/setup5.JPG)

Under the grey plastic wrapping simulating the hill you've got piles of RPG books. The walls of the settlement were packaging foam for our TV. The waterfall is wrapping iridescent paper for food. The tower on the right is entirely made of sugar bricks. :eek:
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Post by: Bobloblah on October 28, 2010, 12:30:57 PM
Quote from: Benoist;412384The tower on the right is entirely made of sugar bricks. :eek:

...can't...resist...

That tower is friggin' sweet!
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Post by: Nicephorus on October 28, 2010, 12:49:18 PM
In January, keep an eye out for stuff to make Christmas miniature scenes, which will be 90% off.  Among the stuff I've snagged are stone and wooden bridges, lions on columns, and a gazebo.
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Post by: Benoist on October 28, 2010, 12:51:16 PM
Totally, Nic! Classics include Halloween scenery, Christmas scenery, and stuff for Fish tanks too!

These obelisks are from fish tank supplies, for instance:

(http://enrill.net/images/photos/setup1.jpg)
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Post by: Nicephorus on October 28, 2010, 12:53:10 PM
I'd never thought of fish tank props - I'll have to take a look next time I pick up dog food.
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Post by: thedungeondelver on October 28, 2010, 12:56:43 PM
I have no pictures (AND I MUST SCREAM), but I've done the "stacks of books and pillows under green felt" for hilly terrain playing WHFB before.
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Post by: winkingbishop on October 28, 2010, 02:19:07 PM
Quote from: thedungeondelver;412404I have no pictures (AND I MUST SCREAM), but I've done the "stacks of books and pillows under green felt" for hilly terrain playing WHFB before.

Shame, I'd love to see those pics.  Ben's remind me of the hack-jobs I've executed in the past.  I've never used sugar cubes! I've taken LEGO to task.  Some blog I read recently recommended keeping a Jenga set around, which isn't a terrible idea, except for the weight :)
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Post by: SBRPearce on November 01, 2010, 10:18:52 AM
AD&D, c.1997: Our host had thoughtfully painted miniatures to represent each of the PCs, but had failed to paint any opponents. In a pinch, he stole a sack of Gummi Bears from his little sister's Christmas stocking to provide us with visual markers for the opposition.

Coolest part - you got to eat what you killed!

When the trolls showed up, we decided Gummi Bears were individually too small to represent the threat. So one enterprising player took all the green ones, a pocket-knife and a box of toothpicks and "assembled" a half dozen trolls out of the pieces.

That memory has been the secret inspiration behind my dream to rules-hack Candyland...

Never have, though.

(Yet) :D
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Post by: Cylonophile on November 01, 2010, 05:59:47 PM
Quote from: Nicephorus;412402I'd never thought of fish tank props - I'll have to take a look next time I pick up dog food.

Where have YOU been? Some aquarium terrain makes great scenery, especially some of those abstract formations, they make great alien mountains and cavern settings.
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Post by: Cylonophile on November 01, 2010, 06:01:38 PM
Quote from: thedungeondelver;412404I have no pictures (AND I MUST SCREAM), but I've done the "stacks of books and pillows under green felt" for hilly terrain playing WHFB before.

Nice Ellison reference.

The very first edition of WH40K had a scenarion in which the players were taught how to make a tunnel entrance (which they had to defend form orks) with books stacked in a particular fashion and covered with green tablecloth if available.
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Post by: Hairfoot on November 02, 2010, 04:04:22 AM
Great thread.  I've used pill bottles and Berocca containers as terrain/ scenery, and a cheap Shrek figurine from a supermarket promo as a hill giant.
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Post by: Hairfoot on November 02, 2010, 04:07:03 AM
Quote from: Cylonophile;413136The very first edition of WH40K had a scenarion in which the players were taught how to make a tunnel entrance (which they had to defend form orks) with books stacked in a particular fashion and covered with green tablecloth if available.
That book has some great photos of improvised battlefields made of cans and boxes (plus the hovertank made from a shampoo bottle) which have been ragged on quite unfairly of late, IMO.
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Post by: winkingbishop on November 02, 2010, 08:29:29 AM
Quote from: Hairfoot;413216Great thread.  I've used pill bottles and Berocca containers as terrain/ scenery, and a cheap Shrek figurine from a supermarket promo as a hill giant.

Bwahahaha.  Awesome.  Did you have it speak with a faux-Scottish accent?
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Post by: thedungeondelver on November 02, 2010, 09:57:05 AM
Quote from: Hairfoot;413217(plus the hovertank made from a shampoo bottle)

Deodorant canister, but otherwise, spot on.

(That thing also got and held for years "official" WH40k stats from WD magazine; I don't know if it's considered canon or game-legal any longer)

EDIT: here's the beast...

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_v-QnkPLGATg/Supw95qIRWI/AAAAAAAABDY/93q4ieGcL4s/deodorant_lg.jpg)

EDIT EDIT: another one

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_y7Ec_Oj17xY/Sp-0B-0aZQI/AAAAAAAAKdc/-H1tl5MGnXk/s800/P1020019.JPGp)
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Post by: Benoist on November 02, 2010, 10:22:12 AM
WOW. That's a SHAMPOO BOTTLE? That is totally awesome! :D
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Post by: thedungeondelver on November 02, 2010, 10:36:29 AM
Quote from: Benoist;413231WOW. That's a SHAMPOO BOTTLE? That is totally awesome! :D

It's a deodorant container - but yes it is awesome. :)

Again, they had official stats for it for a number of WH40k rules iterations, but now that WH40k is less about the gonzo fun and more SRS BZNS they may have sent it the way of Squats, imperial giants, etc.

(remember when I was telling you about the Necrons and how they got accidentally rediscovered?  Yeah, there used to be dwarves in the WH40k universe.  They were the ones unfortunate enough to discover the Necron tomb world.  Now there ain't no dwarves no more...)
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Post by: Hairfoot on November 02, 2010, 03:30:29 PM
Quote from: winkingbishop;413223Bwahahaha.  Awesome.  Did you have it speak with a faux-Scottish accent?
It was hard to resist, but instead we went with the reliable "monosyllabic cave dweller" portrayal.

Quote from: thedungeondelver;413233now that WH40k is less about the gonzo fun and more SRS BZNS
That's what I was grousing about upthread.  I've seen more than a couple of online discussions sticking the boot into the original book's DIY style.  "Oh, look!  Rainbow Warrior marines take Soup Tin Hill!  LOL!"

Laugh it up, fuzzballs, and fork out a hundred bucks for some repackaged aquarium toys while you're at it.

Quote from: thedungeondelver;413233there used to be dwarves in the WH40k universe.  They were the ones unfortunate enough to discover the Necron tomb world.  Now there ain't no dwarves no more...)
That's interesting.  It's kind of nice that GW sent the squats off with some acknowledgement, even if it's odd that they decided space elves, space orcs and space hobbits are darkwarp gothlaser awesomesauce but space dwarves are OMG-how-lame.
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Post by: Cylonophile on November 02, 2010, 06:02:07 PM
Quote from: Hairfoot;413217That book has some great photos of improvised battlefields made of cans and boxes (plus the hovertank made from a shampoo bottle) which have been ragged on quite unfairly of late, IMO.

Actually the hoveretank was an empty deodorant container, the kind you twist the dial at the bottom to get the deodorant to extend.

BTW, the turret was a plastic spoon.
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Post by: Hairfoot on November 02, 2010, 06:32:14 PM
Quote from: thedungeondelver;413233It's a deodorant container
Quote from: thedungeondelver;413229Deodorant canister
Quote from: Cylonophile;413433Actually the hoveretank was an empty deodorant container
Anti-Skub!
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Post by: skofflox on November 02, 2010, 06:59:00 PM
this thread is :cool:

that deoderant hovertank rocks!
did not know about the squats...poor bastards.
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Post by: Cylonophile on November 03, 2010, 12:38:18 AM
Quote from: thedungeondelver;413233It's a deodorant container - but yes it is awesome. :)

Again, they had official stats for it for a number of WH40k rules iterations, but now that WH40k is less about the gonzo fun and more SRS BZNS they may have sent it the way of Squats, imperial giants, etc.

(remember when I was telling you about the Necrons and how they got accidentally rediscovered?  Yeah, there used to be dwarves in the WH40k universe.  They were the ones unfortunate enough to discover the Necron tomb world.  Now there ain't no dwarves no more...)

Unless GW rewrote history again, the necrons were supposedly released when the ork spacehulk crashed on the planet angelis ad broke open soem of their tomb complexes.

least that was the background in "gorkamorka".

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorkamorka#Background

Yeah, the orks released the necrons when their hilk crashed into angelis. The necrons apparently took one look at the orks and left the planet shortly thereafter. ;)
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Post by: Cylonophile on November 03, 2010, 12:45:34 AM
The deodorant tank goes back to when GW was actually a games company and cared about people having fun with their games. Nowadays such a thing would be FORBIDDEN in GW games and you've be expected top pay beauceaup bucks for an official GW model.
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Post by: Benoist on November 03, 2010, 12:48:21 AM
Beaucoup.
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Post by: Cylonophile on November 03, 2010, 12:51:49 AM
Quote from: Benoist;413531Beaucoup.

Ah, merci, mon ami. Non parlevous francias.
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Post by: Benoist on November 03, 2010, 12:58:20 AM
Quote from: Cylonophile;413533Ah, merci, mon ami. Non parlevous francias.
LOL First sentence is alright. Second sentence is a fucking trainwreck! :D
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Post by: Hairfoot on November 03, 2010, 01:15:07 AM
L'OL
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Post by: Cylonophile on November 03, 2010, 01:22:29 AM
Or "L'ol, eh?"
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Post by: Benoist on November 03, 2010, 01:23:25 AM
In Canada for sure. Eh.
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Post by: thedungeondelver on November 03, 2010, 09:37:35 AM
My bad, it was the Orks who discovered the Necrons; the Squats ran afoul of the Tyranids.