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If You Had To Run An Epic Space Campaign today...

Started by Zachary The First, April 14, 2007, 08:54:58 AM

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Marco

Quote from: Zachary The First...What would be your personal choice?  And why?  Like the ideas?  Are the mechanics crunchy/light enough to suit your GM style?  Force of habit?

Me, if I don't feel like using Classic Traveller, I'm thinking it'd be a dead tie between StarCluster 2 and Nebuleon.  I'd also have to give Spacemaster a good look...

StarCluster 2 all the way. It's solid, well supported, and easy to get! And I've played epic space games in it so I know it works :)

-Marco
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Mcrow

For me, and it might be obvious, Nebuleon.

Tons of organizations, groups, governments. The core book only covers a small section of space, there is a lot of unexplored space.

Anything from straight out military to politcal campaigns work great.

Jeffrey Straszheim

Quote from: MarcoStarCluster 2 all the way. It's solid, well supported, and easy to get! And I've played epic space games in it so I know it works :)

Who are you kidding.  You'd use Jags :D

pathfinderap

Quote from: Zachary The First...What would be your personal choice?  And why?  Like the ideas?  Are the mechanics crunchy/light enough to suit your GM style?  Force of habit?

Me, if I don't feel like using Classic Traveller, I'm thinking it'd be a dead tie between StarCluster 2 and Nebuleon.  I'd also have to give Spacemaster a good look...

Well for Epic, I can't think of anything better than Star Wars rpg (west end, d6 version), relativly rules lite, fast in play (most of the time, lol)
does what it needs to do, (except lightsaber fights, but can easly be fixed)
well

never saw classic Traveller (or any other Traveller for that matter) as Epic, to me it fits along side low level and personal settings such as Serenity etc,

But for non epic (well at least in the non ott sense of the word) I'd always go for Star Trek, (either FASA, or Decipher, Last unicorn was too flawed)
 

JohnnyWannabe

I tend to use Cold Space, Hard Nova, or my own house-system for sci-fi games. I don't distinguish between epic and non-epic games. What happens, happens.

My definition of epic differs from the majority. Seeing as the PCs are pretty much the centre of the gaming universe, anything that directly affects them in a major way is epic. If the PCs disappear, the gaming universe around them collapses too. A whole universe gone in a flash! That's epic!
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David R

Quote from: JohnnyWannabeMy definition of epic differs from the majority. Seeing as the PCs are pretty much the centre of the gaming universe, anything that directly affects them in a major way is epic. If the PCs disappear, the gaming universe around them collapses too. A whole universe gone in a flash! That's epic!

This a damn good definition of "epic" :D

Regards,
David R

Danger

For sheer size alone, gimmie GURPS Trav (and all the trimmings!), my oh-so-many MegaTraveller supplements for ideas, and chuck those poor players in a imploding Imperium.

Nice.
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Marco

Quote from: Jeffrey StraszheimWho are you kidding.  You'd use Jags :D

JAGS Space ain't out yet. JAGS StarCluster tho might be interesting!

-Marco
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pathfinderap

Quote from: JohnnyWannabeI tend to use Cold Space, Hard Nova, or my own house-system for sci-fi games. I don't distinguish between epic and non-epic games. What happens, happens.

My definition of epic differs from the majority. Seeing as the PCs are pretty much the centre of the gaming universe, anything that directly affects them in a major way is epic. If the PCs disappear, the gaming universe around them collapses too. A whole universe gone in a flash! That's epic!

But at the end of the day thats still more of a personal tale, it doesn't have the broader scope as in the "war and peace" sense of what epic is,

it sounds more greek myth saga with your version of epic
 

flyingmice

Quote from: MarcoJAGS Space ain't out yet. JAGS StarCluster tho might be interesting!

-Marco

Dang right it would be! :D

-clash
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JohnnyWannabe

Quote from: pathfinderapBut at the end of the day thats still more of a personal tale, it doesn't have the broader scope as in the "war and peace" sense of what epic is,

it sounds more greek myth saga with your version of epic

Whether the PCs are saving the galaxy or saving the day, is not important. If we are using "War and Peace" as our definition, then I need only place the PCs in a long and tawdry tale. That sounds like a campaign to me.
Imagine War and Peace without any characters, if it was only a tale told in the broadest sense. It wouldn't be much of a tale, would it?
The point is, (in my opinion) characters drive the plot, or, at least, they should.
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flyingmice

Quote from: JohnnyWannabeWhether the PCs are saving the galaxy or saving the day, is not important. If we are using "War and Peace" as our definition, then I need only place the PCs in a long and tawdry tale. That sounds like a campaign to me.
Imagine War and Peace without any characters, if it was only a tale told in the broadest sense. It wouldn't be much of a tale, would it?
The point is, (in my opinion) characters drive the plot, or, at least, they should.

And Johnny nails it to the cathedral door! :D

-clash
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pathfinderap

Quote from: JohnnyWannabeWhether the PCs are saving the galaxy or saving the day, is not important. If we are using "War and Peace" as our definition, then I need only place the PCs in a long and tawdry tale. That sounds like a campaign to me.
Imagine War and Peace without any characters, if it was only a tale told in the broadest sense. It wouldn't be much of a tale, would it?
The point is, (in my opinion) characters drive the plot, or, at least, they should.

But thats the case with most RPG's, even the non epic ones, True?
 

JohnnyWannabe

Quote from: pathfinderapBut thats the case with most RPG's, even the non epic ones, True?

Yes, you're correct.:)

As far as I'm concerned, an RPG game becomes an epic when you manage to squeeze a campaign out of it. That's pretty damn epic, in my book. A one-shot isn't epic, it's a night of giggles.

Another term that annoys me is, "space opera". I've never ended a campaign with some great, fat woman screeching to let us know we've reached the finish line. But maybe, that's for another thread . . . ;)
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ConanMK

With Starwars Saga coming out, I might be tempted to try that rules set with a different setting.

Possibly either the Nebulon, Traveller or Star*Drive settings.