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Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: RPGPundit on September 25, 2012, 07:39:38 PM
...then what would your country look like if it was made into a Fantasy RPG Setting?

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Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: Libertad on September 25, 2012, 08:19:51 PM
Golarian already made an idealized fantasy America: it's called Andora.  It's got elections, free mercantilism (I assume it's the D&D capitalist stand-in), and is staunchly abolitionist.

I don't know if it's got freedom of religion or some equivalent; that's a very important American ideal.  Trying to implement that in standard D&D would be pretty difficult, what with evil Clerics summoning Demons and all that jazz.
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: Wolf, Richard on September 25, 2012, 08:57:09 PM
Is FR fantasy Canada?

Mine would look like Bioshock Infinite.  Skymerica, with psychic powers.  Not merely the best country on Earth, ever, but literally too good to actually be physically located on Earth.  

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Andoran could be taken to be fantasy France and I think that it was meant to be.  Galt in Golarion is certainly fantasy France though.  One is where the Terror never happened, and the other is where it never ended.
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Post by: James Gillen on September 26, 2012, 03:13:21 AM
They already did Las Vegas in AD&D.  It was called Dark Sun.

JG
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: Dog Quixote on September 26, 2012, 03:21:42 AM
A dry desert continent, with a few city states surrounded by farmland huddled along the coast and trading routes that go on endlessly through desert and scrub.

Their are rumours in the cities that somewhere in the desert there is an inland sea, and a glittering civilizations lies upon its shore, but those who live further in know that that was long ago, and the sea is now a salt plain, except for once or twice a century when the rains fall and the sea is filled.

Also it's filled with strange and exotic creatures.
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: zarathustra on September 26, 2012, 05:25:19 AM
I believe the Mad Max movies would be my favourite way to represent Australia for an rpg.
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: One Horse Town on September 26, 2012, 07:09:34 AM
At the moment, Downton Abbey. :rolleyes:
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: Randy on September 26, 2012, 10:15:01 AM
Well, Florida was Dinosaur Swamp in Rifts(tm).
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: The Butcher on September 26, 2012, 10:19:40 AM
Well, there used to be a Portuguese language fantasy role-playing game set in a fantasy version of C17 colonial Brazil, with magic and monsters cribbed out of Brazilian folklore (itself a mishmash of native, African and European folklore). The setting also played up myths and folklore to make room for things like legendary tribes of giants and lost cities. Players were supposed to be bandeirantes, historical adventurer types who explored the wilds of colonial Brazil seeking their fortune; some were looking for emeralds or gold or other natural resources, others traded with the natives, and a few were slavers and bandits.

Brazil is freaking huge. You have jungles and savannahs and wetlands and mountains and big cities and small cities and just about everything. If you're only using the physical terrain as a foundation for a setting, you can end up with a pretty extensive and diverse milieu.
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: RPGPundit on September 26, 2012, 06:24:21 PM
Quote from: Wolf, Richard;585621Is FR fantasy Canada?

That's what they say.

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Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: Benoist on September 26, 2012, 06:37:08 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;585584...then what would your country look like if it was made into a Fantasy RPG Setting?

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The Froglands.
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: Roger the GS on September 26, 2012, 07:04:17 PM
I dunno, but you'd definitely have a Social Status stat in fantasy fuckin' England.
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: VectorSigma on September 26, 2012, 08:09:18 PM
My current campaign (in sig) is already a fantasy United States.
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: Benoist on September 26, 2012, 08:24:52 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;585584...then what would your country look like if it was made into a Fantasy RPG Setting?

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The Mediaeval Eurth. (http://www.therpgsite.com/showthread.php?t=17292)
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: RPGPundit on September 27, 2012, 05:20:35 PM
Quote from: Benoist;586029The Froglands.

Indeed!

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Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: James Gillen on September 28, 2012, 03:37:10 AM
I'd play that.

JG
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: Panjumanju on September 28, 2012, 12:22:49 PM
Quote from: Wolf, Richard;585621Is FR fantasy Canada?

I was talking with Ed Greenwood last week. It's certainly fantasy Canada. Unintentionally, perhaps, but that's what happens. I kind of see Waterdeep as Toronto.

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Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: Sacrosanct on September 28, 2012, 12:32:18 PM
I live in Oregon, which is about 90% of fantasy maps out there anyway.


"Well, our landmass is about 300 miles by 300 miles, but we want a little of everything, so temperate forests over here, snow-capped mountains up there, an ocean coast here, a giant lake there, badlands over in that area, a desert over there, rainforest would fit nicely here, a swamp looks good there, etc"
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: StormBringer on September 28, 2012, 12:51:18 PM
Quote from: Benoist;586029The Froglands.
The Slaadi outpost for conquering the world?  :)
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: jhkim on September 28, 2012, 02:46:08 PM
Paizo's Northern Crown (http://paizo.com/store/downloads/atlasGames/northernCrown) is fantasy colonial America.  

I prefer using the real-world setting with fantasy elements.  So, for example, I set a game in 1392 Vinland with fantasy elements.
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: The Butcher on September 28, 2012, 04:18:55 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;586783I live in Oregon, which is about 90% of fantasy maps out there anyway.


"Well, our landmass is about 300 miles by 300 miles, but we want a little of everything, so temperate forests over here, snow-capped mountains up there, an ocean coast here, a giant lake there, badlands over in that area, a desert over there, rainforest would fit nicely here, a swamp looks good there, etc"

Now I'm intrigued. OK, who wants to do a hex map of Oregon?
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: StormBringer on September 28, 2012, 04:42:16 PM
Quote from: The Butcher;586906Now I'm intrigued. OK, who wants to do a hex map of Oregon?
I'm in!  I need a good excuse to order the pro version of Hexographer (http://www.hexographer.com/) anyway.
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Post by: Sacrosanct on September 28, 2012, 05:04:58 PM
I'll give you a head start.  I hope I didn't miss anything

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Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: StormBringer on September 28, 2012, 05:20:51 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;586943I'll give you a head start.  I hope I didn't miss anything

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I like where you are going with this, but I would propose that the "Big Ass River" be submitted for consideration of different nomenclature.  ;)
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: jeff37923 on September 28, 2012, 07:33:56 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;585584...then what would your country look like if it was made into a Fantasy RPG Setting?

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I'm not sure about Fantasy RPG, but if it was Science Fiction RPG it would look like the Spinward Marches from Traveller.
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: StormBringer on September 28, 2012, 07:44:26 PM
I am still trying to puzzle this out.  Does this mean the three most powerful bards in all the planes, known collectively as "Rushe", are from the Forgotten Realms?
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: Roger the GS on September 28, 2012, 08:04:45 PM
Don't leave out the Oregon Vortex.
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: RPGPundit on September 29, 2012, 04:01:44 PM
Quote from: StormBringer;586793The Slaadi outpost for conquering the world?  :)

He was referring to my Albion setting.

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Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: StormBringer on September 29, 2012, 07:28:34 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;587312He was referring to my Albion setting.

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I like mixing and matching.
Title: Cana-Nador
Post by: Doctor Doom on October 19, 2012, 02:03:30 PM
Hi, I was just researching some information on my Fantasy Canadian section of my game world and came upon this post. :)

I'm from Ontario, California and the founders of this town (The Chaffey Brothers) originally came from Ontario Canada. I had made a halfling town based on Ontario California, and had said the halfling Chaffy Brothers came from Ontaroshire in a place called Cana-Nador. :)

I finally got around to running a game set in Cana-nador. I have it posted on my website, based on the Toronto area. I use a lot of weather reports to figure what the weather would be like in the game, based on the date.

Please feel free to make any suggestions, I would really like to flesh it out. Ive really don't know much about Canada, just what I wiki and have seen jokes on TV.

https://sites.google.com/site/worldofganna/the-continent-of-conford/cananador
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: Bobloblah on October 19, 2012, 02:42:55 PM
I hear the jokes are all true.

Regardless, welcome to the theRPGsite!
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Post by: Doctor Doom on October 19, 2012, 08:55:37 PM
Thanks! :)
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: The Butcher on October 19, 2012, 10:22:26 PM
Speaking strictly for myself, my general image of the Forgotten Realms is a sparsely populated expanse with enclaves of good, hard-working people intermittently threatened by moustache-twirling villains, a la Snidely Whiplash vs. Dudley Do-Right; a stark contrast to typical S&S fare, featuring relatively selfish protagonists, decadent civilizations, etc.

But mainly, the assumption that civilized places tend to be safe (outside of the odd, typically undercover and low-profile agent of evil, acting on orders of distant masterminds with grandious plans) even though the wilderness is very, very dangerous -- that's what makes it look and feel like Fantasy Canada to me.

Of course, if Ed Greenwood wasn't Canadian, most likely no one would make the connection. But I first read it on Grognardia and I suppose the boot fits.
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: James Gillen on October 20, 2012, 03:55:03 AM
Quote from: The Butcher;593237Speaking strictly for myself, my general image of the Forgotten Realms is a sparsely populated expanse with enclaves of good, hard-working people intermittently threatened by moustache-twirling villains, a la Snidely Whiplash vs. Dudley Do-Right; a stark contrast to typical S&S fare, featuring relatively selfish protagonists, decadent civilizations, etc.

But mainly, the assumption that civilized places tend to be safe (outside of the odd, typically undercover and low-profile agent of evil, acting on orders of distant masterminds with grandious plans) even though the wilderness is very, very dangerous -- that's what makes it look and feel like Fantasy Canada to me.

As opposed to Fantasy Australia, which WOULD be Swords & Sorcery. ;)

JG
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Post by: StormBringer on October 20, 2012, 04:18:59 AM
Quote from: James Gillen;593256As opposed to Fantasy Australia, which WOULD be Swords & Sorcery. ;)

JG
More like Swords & Holyshiteverythingisfuckingpoisonous-ry.  :D
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: RPGPundit on October 21, 2012, 01:00:50 PM
And yet just below the surface the FR contains a lot of S&S elements, too.

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Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: Opaopajr on October 21, 2012, 02:09:00 PM
Hmm, a lot of this interpretation must come from lengthy FR supplement and novel experience. I'm just going through FR grey box and, outside of the rather banal dales and pseudo-Hanseatic Leagues, most of the other kingdoms look rather dense with their prevalence of cities and tight city footprints. And then there's the lands beyond Faerûn, like Zakhara, Kara Tur, and Maztica which seem mostly urban (and assumed homesteads surrounding to supply food) with large stretches of wastes between.

I kinda don't want to read the novels now, just like the Dragonlance novels. :(
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: The Butcher on October 21, 2012, 03:38:19 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;593698And yet just below the surface the FR contains a lot of S&S elements, too.

Yeah, now I know that (having read the 1e gray box and the Jaquays gazetteers), but in my mind FR never really recovered from the ill-advised AD&D 2e "let's make D&D a romantic high fantasy RPG!" editorial line. Dragonlance was crap since always :D and Greyhawk was mostly ignored, so FR bore the brunt of the 2e-era bowdlerizing madness.
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: RPGPundit on October 22, 2012, 01:57:38 AM
Quote from: The Butcher;593749Yeah, now I know that (having read the 1e gray box and the Jaquays gazetteers), but in my mind FR never really recovered from the ill-advised AD&D 2e "let's make D&D a romantic high fantasy RPG!" editorial line. Dragonlance was crap since always :D and Greyhawk was mostly ignored, so FR bore the brunt of the 2e-era bowdlerizing madness.

Yeah, that was really the problem; the novels never matched what the setting really offered in terms of S&S, and gradually the "vision" of the novels totally eclipsed the vision of the original boxed set, to the point that most gamers today would never associate FR with S&S.

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Post by: Frey on October 22, 2012, 05:18:00 PM
I currently live in Norway, so just take any vikings supplement and you'll find its fantastic version.

No idea what we could do with the oil, though.
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Post by: RPGPundit on October 23, 2012, 07:31:05 PM
Fantasy Uruguay would certainly be a weird place to adventure in.

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Post by: James Gillen on October 24, 2012, 02:09:30 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;594404Fantasy Uruguay would certainly be a weird place to adventure in.

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On the other hand it's pretty close to Fantasy Rio.  :D

JG
Title: If the Forgotten Realms is "Fantasy Canada"...
Post by: The Butcher on October 24, 2012, 07:10:27 AM
Quote from: James Gillen;594497On the other hand it's pretty close to Fantasy Rio.  :D

JG

3 hour flight, actually. :D

Fantasy Rio would be weird. Maybe I'll give it a try.
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Post by: Blackhand on October 24, 2012, 12:40:55 PM
I've had a setting now for a while based on late 1800's Oklahoma (Indian Territory), but in the World of Darkness.

I call the place Smokefall, and it's filled with Native shamans, war parties, crazy German inventors, Boomers trying to settle the place and other strange critters such as a nasty version of the Tailypo.  

I used the Book of Spirits, based on the main rulebook rather than Vampire, Mage or Werewolf.  This opened the way for interactions with the spirits of the land, such as Coyote, Bear, Rattlesnake and Buzzard.  Good times!