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Title: Ian Livingstone, CBE
Post by: RPGPundit on December 30, 2012, 04:04:52 PM
Its not a knighthood, but its pretty freaking close.  Ian Livingstone, co-creator of the Fighting Fantasy books, and hugely influential figure in the early British RPG scene, is being made a Commander of the Order of the British Empire (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20860256) by the Queen this new year.

Next up: Ed Greenwood for Governor General of Canada.

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Title: Ian Livingstone, CBE
Post by: Ladybird on December 30, 2012, 04:29:03 PM
It's an amazing and very well-deserved reward for a man who has been a consistent feature both in the British entertainment industry and abroad.
Title: Ian Livingstone, CBE
Post by: Melan on December 30, 2012, 04:30:21 PM
Alas, poor Ian...
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Unfortunately, you did not notice the award was poisoned and you should have turned to a different page. You die a horrible death.
Title: Ian Livingstone, CBE
Post by: thedungeondelver on December 30, 2012, 04:31:41 PM
Melan wins, forever.
Title: Ian Livingstone, CBE
Post by: 1989 on December 30, 2012, 04:32:00 PM
Quote from: Melan;612977    ...           .

Win!
Title: Ian Livingstone, CBE
Post by: The Traveller on December 30, 2012, 09:58:56 PM
Ultimate win for Melan.
Title: Ian Livingstone, CBE
Post by: Benoist on December 30, 2012, 10:07:35 PM
Melan does indeed win.

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Title: Ian Livingstone, CBE
Post by: jibbajibba on December 30, 2012, 10:39:40 PM
Livingstone also set up with Steve Jackson (no not that Steve Jackson) White Dwarf (and was edditor for years) and Games Workshop which was originally just a reseller for games coming out of the US.

However there was a heyday of GW stuff where they were actually producing reams of really good stuff from UK designers, board games like Rogue Trooper, Block Mania, Chainsaw Warrior and the Fury of Dracula owe the lives to that halcyon era of GW.

Then Livingstone went off to the computer games industry and GW merged with Citadel and the rest is Warhammer and doom.

Livingstone's CBE (not really very much like a knighood to be honest when Arelene Phillips can get a CBE then its open season) was for his computer games work not his groundbreaking RPG stuff which si a shame really as anyone can be president at Eidos but only a genius could have basically forseen the growth of an entire new pastime.
Title: Ian Livingstone, CBE
Post by: Votan on December 30, 2012, 11:24:06 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;612964Next up: Ed Greenwood for Governor General of Canada.

As the token Canadian, I submit that GG of Canada (only one at a time and the actual head of state) would be a bigger deal than a British Knighthood (let along a CBE).  

That being said, I have recently noticed how strong gaming in the Toronto area is and want to visit again to see if it is an additive in the water or not.
Title: Ian Livingstone, CBE
Post by: languagegeek on December 31, 2012, 03:04:13 AM
Quote from: Votan;613099That being said, I have recently noticed how strong gaming in the Toronto area is and want to visit again to see if it is an additive in the water or not.
Seeing as we're downstream from Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, and Buffalo, there could very well be something in the water.
Title: Ian Livingstone, CBE
Post by: dbm on December 31, 2012, 05:11:26 AM
Quote from: jibbajibba;613087Livingstone's CBE (not really very much like a knighood to be honest when Arelene Phillips can get a CBE then its open season) was for his computer games work not his groundbreaking RPG stuff which si a shame really as anyone can be president at Eidos but only a genius could have basically forseen the growth of an entire new pastime.

He gave us Lara Croft, which is either a positive or a negative depending on how you look at it...
Title: Ian Livingstone, CBE
Post by: Warthur on December 31, 2012, 05:17:22 AM
Quote from: jibbajibba;613087Livingstone also set up with Steve Jackson (no not that Steve Jackson) White Dwarf (and was edditor for years) and Games Workshop which was originally just a reseller for games coming out of the US.
And a very important one too - one of their first moves was to order a shipment of 1000 copies of white box D&D from Gary and Dave, which was far and away one of the biggest orders TSR had seen up to that point and led to GW having the exclusive licence to resell D&D products in Europe for its early years. So you could make a good case that Ian and Steve were not only instrumental in establishing the RPG hobby in the UK but in Europe as well, and could even argue that they made a key contribution to the early survival of TSR as well.
Title: Ian Livingstone, CBE
Post by: Frundsberg on December 31, 2012, 09:09:40 AM
Quote from: Melan;612977Alas, poor Ian...

Awesome
Title: Ian Livingstone, CBE
Post by: RPGPundit on December 31, 2012, 03:38:54 PM
I believe he wasn't given the CBE so much for Tomb Raider (or Fighting Fantasy) as for his work in trying to push for improved technology education in British schools.

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Title: Ian Livingstone, CBE
Post by: Killfuck Soulshitter on December 31, 2012, 11:25:29 PM
Not sure exactly what his award was primarily given for, but he's had an admirable career in which one thing has led to another. He's been a visionary and hasn't been tied down to a single medium. While not all reports say he's the nicest guy ever, it's cool to see how he has stayed accessible to the Fighting Fantasy community and kept the franchise going even when there's no longer much financial incentive for him to be personally involved.
Title: Ian Livingstone, CBE
Post by: RPGPundit on January 01, 2013, 04:44:56 PM
I was surprised to see he'd recently written a new FF book.

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Title: Ian Livingstone, CBE
Post by: Ladybird on January 01, 2013, 06:05:19 PM
Blood of the Zombies is really a Fighting Fantasy book in name only. It's got an entirely different set of game mechanics (The combat system works on the basis of fighting swarms of zombies, rather than individuals; each round you roll to see how many zombies you kill, everyone left gets to hit you, and then you go again), and really the only common feature is having a STAMINA score.

It's certainly worth getting, though, for a typically Livingstoneian dungeon crawl. It's also got zombies in, but I don't think that is much of a spoiler.
Title: Ian Livingstone, CBE
Post by: RPGPundit on January 02, 2013, 10:12:30 AM
Quote from: Ladybird;613584Blood of the Zombies is really a Fighting Fantasy book in name only. It's got an entirely different set of game mechanics (The combat system works on the basis of fighting swarms of zombies, rather than individuals; each round you roll to see how many zombies you kill, everyone left gets to hit you, and then you go again), and really the only common feature is having a STAMINA score.

It's certainly worth getting, though, for a typically Livingstoneian dungeon crawl. It's also got zombies in, but I don't think that is much of a spoiler.

Huh. I wonder why, for the anniversary edition book of all things, they'd have chosen not to go with the actual system!?

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