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Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: Darrin Kelley on January 18, 2019, 06:19:21 PM
This is not an attempt to suck up to Pundit. This is displaying my honest opinion.

I watch Pundit's Youtube videos pretty regularly. Including Inappropriate Characters.

He says things there I agree with. And things I don't. Which is fine by me. But overall? I find the experience of watching those videos personally enriching. And very much worth my time.

I want Pundit to keep on keeping on. Doing exactly what he is doing with those videos. And never compromise on his positions. Because I believe they are important for people in the hobby to learn from.

The hobby needs people of strong opinions and convictions. Because it proves that the hobby is worthwhile.

Keep up the good work, Pundit. I will be there watching.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: HappyDaze on January 18, 2019, 06:45:35 PM
I've listened to a few of them, but I don't watch them because there's really nothing in them to watch. What's the point of using video for these if all they're going to show is a product cover and the occasional cat ass?
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: Mordred Pendragon on January 18, 2019, 07:26:06 PM
I am also one of Pundit's subscribers and I need to update my YouTube channel soon too.

Pundit is awesome, and I still owe him a video review of Lion & Dragon.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: cranebump on January 18, 2019, 07:49:30 PM
I've listened to a few. Best not to stare at the products and treat them like a podcast. It's a mixed bag (about 80% bullshit, with the 20% interesting notions obscured by bullshit-splash). He gain a bit more traction if he advanced his ideas without couching them in his politics, but he sees gaming as an extension of politics. His orthodoxy and narrow framework obscure the message. I think it's perfectly acceptable to criticize (supposedly) prevailing notions of modern characters in RPGs being "broken and tortured." The idea is, "it's okay to be truly heroic." You push how this can make your games richer, you gain some adherents who might not initially agree with you. But...(sigh) Pundit believes these type of characters reflect personal and societal values that contradict his own. Which means if I play a character like that, I must be a left-wing, Starbucks patron, rather than the straight, Christian, old white dude that I am. Even if I agree in principal, I have to take exception to the lens he believes everyone **should** be using, because it's just a hobby, and people are people, and most people are okay to game with. Well, in 50 years of gaming I've find most of them are.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: Christopher Brady on January 19, 2019, 12:55:28 AM
He's not an engaging speaker to me.  I tend to tune him out after a few minutes.  Which is a shame because I'd like to understand his points, even if I don't agree with them.  But I just can't sit through an entire episode.  I want to.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: Shawn Driscoll on January 19, 2019, 01:23:40 AM
Quote from: cranebump;1071922I've listened to a few. Best not to stare at the products and treat them like a podcast. It's a mixed bag (about 80% bullshit, with the 20% interesting notions obscured by bullshit-splash). He gain a bit more traction if he advanced his ideas without couching them in his politics, but he sees gaming as an extension of politics. His orthodoxy and narrow framework obscure the message. I think it's perfectly acceptable to criticize (supposedly) prevailing notions of modern characters in RPGs being "broken and tortured." The idea is, "it's okay to be truly heroic." You push how this can make your games richer, you gain some adherents who might not initially agree with you. But...(sigh) Pundit believes these type of characters reflect personal and societal values that contradict his own. Which means if I play a character like that, I must be a left-wing, Starbucks patron, rather than the straight, Christian, old white dude that I am. Even if I agree in principal, I have to take exception to the lens he believes everyone **should** be using, because it's just a hobby, and people are people, and most people are okay to game with. Well, in 50 years of gaming I've find most of them are.

The Millennial mindset plays RPGs very differently than Baby-Boomers and GenX mindsets. And guess what? Politics is a huge reason behind it. If you ignore politics, well then that is just part of the politics that you belong to whether you know it or not. There are 50-year-old woke players. Lots. Go to any game store.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: Abraxus on January 19, 2019, 06:39:22 AM
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1071959The Millennial mindset plays RPGs very differently than Baby-Boomers and GenX mindsets. And guess what? Politics is a huge reason behind it. If you ignore politics, well then that is just part of the politics that you belong to whether you know it or not. There are 50-year-old woke players. Lots. Go to any game store.

Those 50+ male woke players do it because they think it will get them laid by the younger girls. Or to be part of the cool kids club they threw away all self respect. To me at least both make you look sad as a person. Either way if the so called woke players are interested in a actual discussion or they can put away politics and actually game without injecting them into a campaign that I'm playing or running. Your welcome to be part of my gaming circle. If it's what usually happens one sided wokeness then they can go elsewhere or I do as I'm not interested in that bullshit.

As for Pundit I enjoy his videos usually. now it seems less like trying to get a message across and more an axe to grind imo. Anytime CR comes into the picture it's either a rant or worse "they are not doing it my way so it's badwrongfun". While starting to come across as obsessed about it.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: Razor 007 on January 19, 2019, 10:02:49 AM
I have watched probably a dozen of his videos.  Some are pretty good.

I like the coffee talk.

Pundit should work some miniatures into the screenshots of his books.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: Omega on January 20, 2019, 01:48:21 AM
The less "Uh"ing he does the better the oration and point come across.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: Spinachcat on January 20, 2019, 02:11:04 AM
I want transcripts!

I am interested in his thoughts, but I can't do podcasts. Something about the format doesn't click with me and my brain wanders. I'm bad with audiobooks too.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: Nerzenjäger on January 21, 2019, 01:23:05 AM
I watched in the beginning, because I like to read Pundit, but eventually stopped. I really have no need for a 2nd hand Sargon in my YT feed and the same, boring classical liberal takes on hobby news. No offence, just not my cup of tea.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: The Exploited. on January 23, 2019, 12:29:11 PM
I like his vids a lot... He pretty much just talks about common sense subjects that should be in gaming.

As well as holding the line for free speech and creativity in games.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: RPGPundit on January 25, 2019, 07:39:03 AM
Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1071906This is not an attempt to suck up to Pundit. This is displaying my honest opinion.

I watch Pundit's Youtube videos pretty regularly. Including Inappropriate Characters.

He says things there I agree with. And things I don't. Which is fine by me. But overall? I find the experience of watching those videos personally enriching. And very much worth my time.

I want Pundit to keep on keeping on. Doing exactly what he is doing with those videos. And never compromise on his positions. Because I believe they are important for people in the hobby to learn from.

The hobby needs people of strong opinions and convictions. Because it proves that the hobby is worthwhile.

Keep up the good work, Pundit. I will be there watching.

That's very much appreciated!
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: RPGPundit on January 25, 2019, 07:39:45 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze;1071912I've listened to a few of them, but I don't watch them because there's really nothing in them to watch. What's the point of using video for these if all they're going to show is a product cover and the occasional cat ass?

Well, yeah. The videos are really made to be listened to more than watched, the sort of thing you can do while driving or working out or playing something on your computer or whatever.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: RPGPundit on January 25, 2019, 07:40:47 AM
Quote from: Razor 007;1071987I have watched probably a dozen of his videos.  Some are pretty good.

I like the coffee talk.

Pundit should work some miniatures into the screenshots of his books.

I don't use miniatures, though.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: RPGPundit on January 25, 2019, 07:41:25 AM
Quote from: Nerzenjäger;1072108I watched in the beginning, because I like to read Pundit, but eventually stopped. I really have no need for a 2nd hand Sargon in my YT feed and the same, boring classical liberal takes on hobby news. No offence, just not my cup of tea.

Are you saying I'm too left-wing for you?
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: Nerzenjäger on January 28, 2019, 03:34:13 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;1072521Are you saying I'm too left-wing for you?

Occassionally, yes. But that's not the main issue. The classical liberal lens bores me to tears in its predictability and the topics remind me too much of the stuff Sargon or Quartering would handle in their respective niches. That doesn't disqualify all of your content, but most of your solo videos.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: cranebump on January 29, 2019, 10:17:16 AM
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1071959The Millennial mindset plays RPGs very differently than Baby-Boomers and GenX mindsets. And guess what? Politics is a huge reason behind it. If you ignore politics, well then that is just part of the politics that you belong to whether you know it or not. There are 50-year-old woke players. Lots. Go to any game store.

Not one member of either of my regular groups is a boomer. I haven't noticed them playing any differently than anyone else. Matter of fact, I've had no one near my age at any table I've played at for, oh, I'd say 15 years? Not saying you're full of shit. Just saying my personal experiences don't bear out your observations.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: RPGPundit on February 03, 2019, 06:43:34 PM
Quote from: Nerzenjäger;1072675Occassionally, yes. But that's not the main issue. The classical liberal lens bores me to tears in its predictability and the topics remind me too much of the stuff Sargon or Quartering would handle in their respective niches. That doesn't disqualify all of your content, but most of your solo videos.

Yeah, philosophical consistency is such a bitch! If only we believed in the holy spirit and the divine right of kings and didn't need any more kind of ethical groundwork for what we argue than "ghost jesus said so!"
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: Nerzenjäger on February 04, 2019, 09:23:46 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;1073265Yeah, philosophical consistency is such a bitch! If only we believed in the holy spirit and the divine right of kings and didn't need any more kind of ethical groundwork for what we argue than "ghost jesus said so!"

You literally believe you are a wizard.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: RPGPundit on February 06, 2019, 08:18:01 AM
Quote from: Nerzenjäger;1073340You literally believe you are a wizard.

No, I don't 'believe' I am one. Belief doesn't enter into it at all. That's like saying that I "believe I smoke a pipe". No, I actually do smoke a pipe, I don't need to believe, because it's a thing I do not a thing I have faith about.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: Armchair Gamer on February 06, 2019, 10:41:51 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;1073601No, I don't 'believe' I am one. Belief doesn't enter into it at all. That's like saying that I "believe I smoke a pipe". No, I actually do smoke a pipe, I don't need to believe, because it's a thing I do not a thing I have faith about.

Yes, you can call spirits from the vasty deep ... but do they come when you do call for them?

For your sake, I hope not.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: VincentTakeda on February 06, 2019, 10:53:44 AM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1073634Yes, you can call spirits from the vasty deep ... but do they come when you do call for them?

Material component- can of beans
Somatic component- eat can of beans and wait

Cant everyone do this?
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: WillInNewHaven on February 07, 2019, 11:34:39 PM
I listen to him also and I like his videos. I have to admit that there isn't much visual appeal, although I appreciate cats. I don't listen because his politics are close mine, even though they are. For entertainment purposes, I prefer listening to people that I disagree with. However, his gaming talk is interesting and he  articulated some things I knew but hadn't known how to explain before. Also, I admire him because he doesn't ban people for disagreeing with him, even the ones who are impolite.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: RPGPundit on February 11, 2019, 12:55:14 AM
Quote from: WillInNewHaven;1073892I listen to him also and I like his videos. I have to admit that there isn't much visual appeal, although I appreciate cats. I don't listen because his politics are close mine, even though they are. For entertainment purposes, I prefer listening to people that I disagree with. However, his gaming talk is interesting and he  articulated some things I knew but hadn't known how to explain before. Also, I admire him because he doesn't ban people for disagreeing with him, even the ones who are impolite.

I'll certainly admit about the visual appeal. My videos are basically really just podcasts.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: jan paparazzi on February 14, 2019, 02:59:11 PM
I just saw the videos The D&D DM is NOT a "Storyteller" and The Modern Novel Was a Mistake and its bad for D&D Too and both are very insightful. The first one has a very clear explanation about what a GM is not supposed to do. It was very familiar to me, because that is what White Wolf always promoted. Being a Storyteller and railroad your players through a story always felt very unnatural to me. Not very organic. And I found it actually a lot more difficult, because you have to keep track of a lot things in case your players leave the railroad and come back on track later.

The second one is about the player's talking a lot about the psychology of their characters. What they are feeling and thinking. The tempo comes to a halt and I find it very pretentious. Why not just do something? I found that at a WoD play by post, so White Wolf again. I guess the Storygames and the Forge are even worse at this.

You can add DnD Stuff They Taught You Wrong on Purpose #4: Roleplay Vs Rules to the mix. Again I found the WoD having increasingly more rules in areas where I thought "Why do you need rules for that?". Mostly stuff like social combat, but also rules for graffiti tags, rules for having an area under your control, rules for amnesia with older vampires etc. Stuff that I like to just wing it and get it out of the way.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: RPGPundit on February 18, 2019, 03:43:37 AM
Quote from: jan paparazzi;1075067I just saw the videos The D&D DM is NOT a "Storyteller" and The Modern Novel Was a Mistake and its bad for D&D Too and both are very insightful. The first one has a very clear explanation about what a GM is not supposed to do. It was very familiar to me, because that is what White Wolf always promoted. Being a Storyteller and railroad your players through a story always felt very unnatural to me. Not very organic. And I found it actually a lot more difficult, because you have to keep track of a lot things in case your players leave the railroad and come back on track later.

The second one is about the player's talking a lot about the psychology of their characters. What they are feeling and thinking. The tempo comes to a halt and I find it very pretentious. Why not just do something? I found that at a WoD play by post, so White Wolf again. I guess the Storygames and the Forge are even worse at this.

You can add DnD Stuff They Taught You Wrong on Purpose #4: Roleplay Vs Rules to the mix. Again I found the WoD having increasingly more rules in areas where I thought "Why do you need rules for that?". Mostly stuff like social combat, but also rules for graffiti tags, rules for having an area under your control, rules for amnesia with older vampires etc. Stuff that I like to just wing it and get it out of the way.

Thanks for listening!
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: Rithuan on February 18, 2019, 09:28:11 PM
I never thought I would recognize this (in public), but yeah. I like the videos from RPGPundit, in particular, the one called "The D&D DM is NOT a Storyteller"
I said it. I feel better already :)
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: Malleustein on February 19, 2019, 10:43:19 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;1074271I'll certainly admit about the visual appeal. My videos are basically really just podcasts.

Not a negative.  I am usually doing something else while listening to your videos.  That I need not look up from what I am doing is a positive.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: GRIM on February 19, 2019, 11:33:55 AM
All you really need is a better mic, and not to use your phone, so you can plug a better mic into your laptop (or whatever).
Sort it ahhhht!

Also, thumbnails.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: RPGPundit on February 23, 2019, 11:31:44 PM
Quote from: GRIM;1075686All you really need is a better mic, and not to use your phone, so you can plug a better mic into your laptop (or whatever).
Sort it ahhhht!

Also, thumbnails.

I don't know. At this point some viewers seem to think my amateurish quality is almost a mark of pride.
Title: I watch to Pundit's Youtube videos.
Post by: RPGPundit on February 23, 2019, 11:37:03 PM
Quote from: Rithuan;1075582I never thought I would recognize this (in public), but yeah. I like the videos from RPGPundit, in particular, the one called "The D&D DM is NOT a Storyteller"
I said it. I feel better already :)

Admitting it is the first step.