Quote from: Nemesis on November 13, 2020, 10:37:21 AM
Shouldn't this thread belong in "The RPGPundit's Own Forum"?

It's ALL The RPG Pundit's own forum.

Quote from: Valatar on November 13, 2020, 11:12:40 AM

Quote from: Nemesis on November 13, 2020, 10:37:21 AM
Shouldn't this thread belong in "The RPGPundit's Own Forum"?

It is gaming related rather than purely political, if people are going and brigading others online for the crime of playing as other ethnicities.

I see. For me, it'll eventually fall into the realm of political talk:

RPG races -> SJW bringing up real races -> ethnicities -> identity politics -> politics.

Thomas Mann felt "Everything is Political", and it sure seems like 2020 has been that way.

Quote from: Hawkwing7423 on November 13, 2020, 02:19:13 PM
Thomas Mann felt "Everything is Political", and it sure seems like 2020 has been that way.

I'll blame them and their thinking for a lot of things, but I really can't lay Covid-19 at the SJW's door. 

Quote from: ponta1010 on November 13, 2020, 02:35:44 PM


I'll blame them and their thinking for a lot of things, but I really can't lay Covid-19 at the SJW's door. 

Um, yes we can. It should be treated like other pandemics, such as Asian Flu 1957, Hong Kong Flu 1968. This scamdemic has been used to push mail in ballots and break small businesses, and generally to try to force the population to listen to authoritarian dictates out of fear.

We should not be quarantining the healthy. Elderly and immunocompromised should be taking special precautions. Herd immunity is what we must get to.

So I can still play a Tiefling that is an unholy mix of devil and human but not a Black Human character?

I can see the logic.

Quote from: RPGPundit on November 12, 2020, 09:29:15 PM
Just as I predicted! The D&D SJWs now demand that no one should be allowed to play a ttrpg character of a different race!

So naturally once the kung-flu restrictions are lifted on Broadway they will never do another run of Hamilton...



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Quote from: Darrin Kelley on November 13, 2020, 02:20:11 AM
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The sheer stupid in this doesn't come from Marxists ...

So being trolled by people using Marxist critical race theory rhetoric, some how doesn't come from Marxists?

Quote from: Darrin Kelley on November 13, 2020, 02:20:11 AM
I pulled myself out of bed to make this post. Because I realized what happened to Matt Mercer during that broadcast. He was trolled by a bunch of viewers who straight-up lack the maturity to actually participate in a roleplaying game, themselves.

The sheer stupid in this doesn't come from Marxists or any other boogeyman the right keep bringing up. It comes from people who likely wouldn't pass muster on actually being able to be in a roleplaying group at all themselves. People who are being calculated and malicious simply to disrupt the activity. And sadly, Mercer played right into their hands. Instead of staying and actually playing.

Any of us with a long time history of playing in and running RPG groups have encountered people who are unfit to play in a game group. We all have had to toss out the occasional disruptive fuck to just make the game group work. It's a basic part of the condition.

So no. I'm disagreeing with Pundit here. This isn't some political movement. This is a case of immature trolls being immature trolls. It's not some conspiracy. It's the fact that the GM didn't have ironclad control of his environment that would have prevented a guest player from being jeered off-camera by an unruly mob.

This wasn't a political situation. This was just trolling by people who came to that broadcast to deliberately disrupt it. While pulling the first bit of idiocy out of their asses to be a vehicle for it.

It was trolling specifically using critical race theory = social marxism, and honestly anyone believing in that bullshit is in fact pretty immature.   So the odd thing is you are correct on almost all points, except the nature of the trolling, that is honestly indeterminable as to whether the trolls are true believers or smart asses who were able to use the tool of true believers to make a dude fold.  Does it somehow make the tool of the marxist, or the damage they do less if a non believer is able to use their tool to force compliance?  Nor sure I can follow your logic.

Quote from: jhkim on November 13, 2020, 02:52:24 AM
Does anyone have the link to the Matt Mercer source under discussion? (I haven't seen the whole video yet, but there doesn't seem to be a link in the description or comments.)

Yep.  Not really possible to say anything without.

Quote from: Jaeger on November 13, 2020, 03:45:03 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit on November 12, 2020, 09:29:15 PM
Just as I predicted! The D&D SJWs now demand that no one should be allowed to play a ttrpg character of a different race!

So naturally once the kung-flu restrictions are lifted on Broadway they will never do another run of Hamilton...

Quote from: Darrin Kelley on November 13, 2020, 02:20:11 AM
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The sheer stupid in this doesn't come from Marxists ...

So being trolled by people using Marxist critical race theory rhetoric, some how doesn't come from Marxists?


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Greetings!

Hello, Jaeger my friend! Your commentary reminds me of a curious dynamic with a number of mushy members here. They somehow like to naively split hairs in making distinctions that for someone to be a Communist they have to be wearing a Soviet uniform and waving a Soviet or Chicom flag, and must have self-admitted to being a Communist.

They're biases are mind-numbingly obtuse.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: TJS on November 13, 2020, 04:11:34 PM

Quote from: jhkim on November 13, 2020, 02:52:24 AM
Does anyone have the link to the Matt Mercer source under discussion? (I haven't seen the whole video yet, but there doesn't seem to be a link in the description or comments.)

Yep.  Not really possible to say anything without.

Can you post a link, please? I briefly tried a search, but I couldn't isolate the case in question.

Quote from: jhkim on November 13, 2020, 04:39:33 PM

Quote from: TJS on November 13, 2020, 04:11:34 PM

Quote from: jhkim on November 13, 2020, 02:52:24 AM
Does anyone have the link to the Matt Mercer source under discussion? (I haven't seen the whole video yet, but there doesn't seem to be a link in the description or comments.)

Yep.  Not really possible to say anything without.

Can you post a link, please? I briefly tried a search, but I couldn't isolate the case in question.

Sorry, if I was unclear.   I was agreeing with your request.  I couldn't find anything either except for a couple of cringeworthy tweets by Mercer without any real context.

https://twitter.com/matthewmercer/status/1325930059941642241

Good video. I like your points about mythological vs. postmodern narrative.

Quote from: oggsmash on November 13, 2020, 05:04:09 PM
https://twitter.com/matthewmercer/status/1325930059941642241

Thanks, oggsmash. Looks like Mercer has agreed to critics. On the other hand, the game's creator, Chris Spivey, posted that he supported any player playing any race - and cited an explanatory thread from Ajit George saying similar.

https://twitter.com/Darker_Hue/status/1326598976410357762

I haven't been able to find posts from those originally expressing criticism of Mercer's casting, though. It was frustrating to me that Pundit didn't post to what he was talking about - but from your link, Matt and Chris do the same thing, not linking to who they're speaking about. I guess it's just the norm for Internet discussion these days, but it runs against my preferences.

Regarding the topic, I agree with Chris, Ajit, and Pundit - it's players can play PCs of any race. It seems to me that Mercer is being hypersensitive to an unreasonable critic.