An actual, camel-mounted swivel gun is so much cooler than a pack llama that just happens to be carrying a .50cal.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamburak

Quote from: Kyle Aaron on March 02, 2021, 07:53:26 PM

Quote from: Kyle Aaron on March 02, 2021, 06:27:05 AM
Now about ENWorld: I never got into ENWorld. Any interesting subforums or discussions someone could point me to? rpg-related, I mean. Usually forums are at their most interesting just before they go SJW - it's because they were getting interesting the SJWs had to turn them shitty. So there must be some good stuff there now! Show me!

This is still my question.

I recommend going to https://www.enworld.org/forums/?skip=1 which gives you everything posted recently and just see if anything looks interesting. You can ignore the subform structure.

At this point GD is both troling and trying to get us to waste our time paying any kind of attention. If this person would act like away from the safety of his screen and keyboard he would be thrown out of most places.

Everyone and anyone is stunningly brave behind a screen. Let him rant and rave and pay no attention it's the worst thing anyone can do. As he seems to thrive on us paying him any form of attention.

Well, I did warn him.

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 03, 2021, 09:29:12 AM
Well, I did warn him.

Is it a perma, or just a time out and threadban?

I'm not going to argue either way. I'm just curious.

(I would suggest we need an Infractions forum, but honestly, who wants to emulate TBP?)

Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 03, 2021, 10:39:03 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 03, 2021, 09:29:12 AM
Well, I did warn him.

Is it a perma, or just a time out and threadban?

I'm not going to argue either way. I'm just curious.

(I would suggest we need an Infractions forum, but honestly, who wants to emulate TBP?)

We don't need a public square for shaming transgressors.

Quote from: Omega on March 02, 2021, 12:14:11 AM

Quote from: Slipshot762 on March 01, 2021, 05:11:39 AM

Quote from: BronzeDragon on March 01, 2021, 03:17:18 AM
Well, I put up a poll about D&D artists over there and so far Elmore, Otus and Easley are winning, so it can't be all bad, right?

death to the anime art style; of all the things that do not belong in this hobby that art style plucks my chicken w/o lubrication.

The Record of Lodoss War OVA is "BX D&D: the anime".

There are a lot of D&D-influenced anime. Some of them are good, like Record of Lodoss War. A lot of them, particularly the more recent wave of "video game mechanics applied to real life" with a side order of "power harem fantasy for horny virgins", are pretty bad.

BTW this "problematic TSR" thread was locked by Morris because it went into pure SJW and left D&D entirely - and Sacrosant was warned as biggest offender.
So maybe there's hope.

Quote from: Pat on March 02, 2021, 09:28:35 PM

Quote from: Omega on March 02, 2021, 09:10:20 PM
No this forum is not becoming like the others.

Yes it is. Not in the free speech or even the political sense, but in the methods of discourse. Because in the last decade or decade and a half everywhere online has become more strident and hostile as people look for offense in everything, treat a single divergent belief as proof people are the Enemy, bring politics into everything, and all the other crap that's the result of hyperpolarization. It's inevitable, because even the most niche board is downstream from the toxic sludge that oozes from the wider culture.

This has been a strident and hostile forum since I first joined. Nothings changed other than half the worst offenders have left to seek other forums to inflict themselves on or ones where their wokeness and hatefulness are welcomed and encouraged.

We transitioned from a full blown covert war with Storygamers to a full blown open war with the SJW cult. Both of which used the exact same tactics and pushed ever harder. Stringent and hostile eventually becomes the only option as there really never was another to begin with when dealing with these cults.

Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West on March 03, 2021, 05:55:40 PM
BTW this "problematic TSR" thread was locked by Morris because it went into pure SJW and left D&D entirely - and Sacrosant was warned as biggest offender.
So maybe there's hope.

Sac will likely back off, or flounce off, but eventually will go downhill again. If anything he sounds even worse over there. Which is sad as he used to be near the opposite here.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron on March 02, 2021, 07:53:26 PM

Quote from: Kyle Aaron on March 02, 2021, 06:27:05 AM
Now about ENWorld: I never got into ENWorld. Any interesting subforums or discussions someone could point me to? rpg-related, I mean. Usually forums are at their most interesting just before they go SJW - it's because they were getting interesting the SJWs had to turn them shitty. So there must be some good stuff there now! Show me!

This is still my question.

Well I haven't saved any links.  But even a year ago there was still some decent practical discussion of 5e taking place (although the signal to noise was never great).  If you don't play 5e then you there isn't much to see.

Thing is, everything that can really be said about 5e has been said at this point.  The issues with it are known issues and practical responses have been put forward and discussed to death.

This leaves practical discussion with nothing to talk about (as for some reason practical discussion about things like adventure/scenario design or settings is something that has almost never taken place on forums).  So it's basically left to those who want to talk but have nothing to say.

In a completely unsurprising twist Sacrosanct's attempt at #VirtueSignaling is profoundly racist and hypocritical.

QuoteHere are two quick examples that illustrate my comment above. Two pieces I recently had commissioned. Both were diverse artists I had hired. One is an artist of Mesoamerican heritage, doing a piece inspired from their culture. The other is from an African American, but his dress is wholly European. I should have caught that and did better.

But what does he mean by doing better?

QuoteOn one hand, I get how it's to avoid potential cultural appropriation concerns or accidentally using a stereotype, but in this Internet age, it's not hard to find someone of that culture to do a review.

QuoteNothing is wrong with it per se. I was actually quite impressed by it. But if I were a little more aware at the time, I would have had it as an African warrior in traditional dress. To show more diversity not just with the ethnicity of the character, but in the culture as well. To the point above about how we tend to focus on European culture only, even when we're depicting other ethnicities.

QuoteExactly. That's the point. There are many different African cultures, and NONE of them are being represented. We took a black man and put him in European style armor and dress.

QuoteI think you're missing the point. Let me try to rephrase.

Yes, European culture has many cultures within it, as you list. Most of them have been represented in D&D artwork a ton. There are many individual cultures in Africa. Almost none of them were represented.

See the problem? It's not about lumping in several European cultures into one, or several African cultures into one. It's about depicting mostly only European culture and excluding all others.

QuoteNot at all. It was simply an observation that when we include diverse ethnicities, we often portray them as being part of a european culture. Like putting a black man in plate armor. It's still european culture, and we're still not depicting african (any african) culture.

It would be like depicting native americans in our art, but only in western white attire and saying we're being diverse for including them. Needless to say, taking a diverse person of color and depicting them in eurocentric attire has about a million problematic issues going on from a historical standpoint. Like how we did that as a way to eradicate their culture.

He seems pretty focused on culture, don't it?

and yet...

QuoteNo idea if he was originally from africa or of his parents were or whatever. All I know is he lives in Brazil. But who cares? It's not my place to tell someone who is black that they aren't REAL African cultures unless they currently grew up and live in africa. That's....pretty awful of a thing to think or imply.

So culture be damned, let's ignore that completely and just treat Black people as interchangeable! Despite all his pontificating about culture he ultimately hired someone to illustrate African 'cultures' based entirely on the color of their skin. And in the end the illustration wasn't Black enough.

QuoteThey are Mesoamerican. Not white. In traditional dress and weapons. By a Mesoamerican artist.

And not only isn't this 'traditional' women's dress, it's also cheesecake of exactly the kind he was condemning as problematic, and no less so just because a 'Mesoamerican' did it.

Quote from: Omega on February 26, 2021, 12:32:43 PM
Yeah thats Sac over there most likely. He used to post here and was near the exact opposite. Then at some point apparently drank the kool-aid, became a Sarkesian cultist and now everythings sexist everything racist everythings ad nausium. All I recall is him getting ever more stringent here.

Always sad to see someone's brains become Spaghettios in real time.

Quote from: Null42 on February 26, 2021, 11:26:58 PM
Interestingly, apparently the guy who started the thread, after specifically asking about how to make a more inclusive OSR game, mentioned when asked that he has been pushed out of RPG.net.

And despite all this they're still not woke enough for #BigPurple.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on February 26, 2021, 09:22:40 PM
Are they complaining about demons and evil spirits being racist yet?

Then they haven't gotten as bad as RPGNet.

Next they'll be telling us the #Wendigo is just misunderstood.

The #CtrlLeft sure does love adopting the 'misunderstood monster' archetype while completely forgetting that still makes them monsters, or maybe as a cover for it.

Quote from: Reckall on February 27, 2021, 08:56:58 AM
Let's not forget that we do live in times when asking "Are chess racists? In the game the White always moves first!" is considered a serious question.

https://www.rt.com/sport/493243-anatoly-karpov-chess-racism/

Well the #YouTube algo certainly isn't taking any chances.

Quote from: Omega on March 02, 2021, 02:22:46 PM
The problem with En World and all the other fora being taken over or co-opted by these nuts is that they rarely come in gunz-a-blazin. Instead they sneak in and poison the well a little at a time, turning people to their cult until they have enough leverage. A little demand here, a banning there, another more stringent demand, a few more bannings and so on.

The other problem is that several of the now increasingly worse fora allready had admin who were leaning that way to begin with. So the door was left open and the inevitable happens.

To be fair #ENWorld is holding out better than most. There was effective pushback and inquiry, and the thread was ultimately locked for not being D&D related, which is exactly how things should be handled.

Quote from: Anon Adderlan on March 04, 2021, 06:49:34 AM

I like the flying cheesecake one! Good stuff. Not so keen on the other one (it seems to be a riff on 'A Paladin in Hell', but the demons are too messy). But Sacrosanct condemning his black Brazilian artist for depicting European (shudder) armour is both hilarious and deeply creepy/cringeworthy.

Quote from: Omega on March 02, 2021, 02:22:46 PM

I think the only reaason BGG has not surpassed all the rest in crazy is that they are the only one I know of that relies heavily on revenue from sponsors and especially members to line their pockets. And as they have tightened their grip, censored more, and become more and more openly woke, that revenue has dwindled to the point the last 3 years they have barely made their year end funding goals.

That and resistance from publishers and forum members which is substantially larger than any of the others.

BGG has not surpassed yet, but it's going that way. People who "dared" to defended Tony and Frances (from Ant Lab Games) from the wokemob got banned. Not to mention all the ruckus regarding the "problematic" cover of Tiny Epic Dungeons:

https://techraptor.net/tabletop/news/tiny-epic-dungeons-under-fire-for-problematic-cover-art

(if the hag complaining about TED's artwork ever sees some old AD&D artwork by Caldwell she'd have a stroke!)

Quote from: Greywolf76 on March 04, 2021, 12:00:55 PM
BGG has not surpassed yet, but it's going that way. People who "dared" to defended Tony and Frances (from Ant Lab Games) from the wokemob got banned. Not to mention all the ruckus regarding the "problematic" cover of Tiny Epic Dungeons:

https://techraptor.net/tabletop/news/tiny-epic-dungeons-under-fire-for-problematic-cover-art

(if the hag complaining about TED's artwork ever sees some old AD&D artwork by Caldwell she'd have a stroke!)

I feel dumber for having read that link... and stand by my previous statement; for every bit of woke nonsense like that I read about I add another image of a sexy sorceress in tight leather to my game book.