Quote from: Brad on February 28, 2021, 06:52:41 PM
Italians change their government more often than they change socks, so this whole discussion is quite hilarious. And also completely unrelated to RPGs...

It is not "completely unrelated to RPGs" at all. It makes you a better Keeper at running "Under a Winter's Snow" and "Autophagia" for Call of Cthulhu 7E 

All subjects of general politics, Covid politics, mask wearing, etc is all OFF TOPIC to this forum. People who continue to post about any off-topic will be banned.

Blah blah since we can't delete any more after the "upgarde"

Quote from: TJS on February 25, 2021, 04:49:13 PM
Most of the userbase there are really just fans - they're not there to create or to fix or have productive discussions which lead to better gaming or anything like that, but just to argue in a fannish way.

I think for most RPGs and forums, it's this way.

Yes, you'll have people who are SJWs, and thrn you'll have the ones who bend over backwards to them, and then most of them just want to play.

Quote from: Slipshot762 on March 01, 2021, 05:11:39 AM

Quote from: BronzeDragon on March 01, 2021, 03:17:18 AM
Well, I put up a poll about D&D artists over there and so far Elmore, Otus and Easley are winning, so it can't be all bad, right?

death to the anime art style; of all the things that do not belong in this hobby that art style plucks my chicken w/o lubrication.

The Record of Lodoss War OVA is "BX D&D: the anime".

Quote from: Pat on February 28, 2021, 10:17:43 PM
(Edited out some covid, because it doesn't belong on this board.)

Actually does belong on this board. ...Also that the U.S. was the source of the Covids virus is not a "conspiracy theory", and really there is no such thing as a conspiracy theory, that is actually a phrase coined by the CIA to discredit the exploration of facts and ideas to arrive at the truth. It's used to limit the thinking patterns of other people, and to simply discredit people, nothing more. Theories are in fact not "conspiracy theories" but are theories without any supporting facts that require further investigations to arrive at the truth. Sometimes theories are just that, theories, but in this case, there are relevant facts to be considered.

So let's look at the facts, today, and now. Health and Human Services, in 2019 issued a 3.7 million dollar grant to the Wuhan Virology Lab to study the transmission of the covids virus. Until then, no one was traveling the five hundred miles or so, and going into the bat caves in Western China to capture bats infected with Covids. These infected bats who had pretty much stayed in their caves and didn't interact with humans at all, ....at any point in living history.... until the Chinese "scientists" went into the caves with their butterfly nets and captured these infected bats and then brought them enmasse to the CDC lab (not the virology lab) there was no covids at all in Wuhan. The lead "researcher/bat capturer" had quarantined himself twice after being bitten by these bats in the CDC lab.

Here's an article from April of 2020 where President Trump cancels the contract and the funding for the b̶i̶o̶r̶e̶s̶e̶a̶r̶c̶h̶  "scientific research".
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/27/trump-cuts-research-bat-human-virus-china-213076
   
Why were the Chinese doing this "scientific research?" BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN OUTLAWED BY AN EXECUTIVE ORDER ISSUED BY PRESIDENT OBAMA BACK IN 2013!!!!

Here's an article from the New York Times where the whitehouse cut the funding for the risky biological study" which was in fact SARS/Covid "Gain of function" research. Up until then Bat Covids didn't effect humans, and wasn't transmittable by humans...

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/18/us/white-house-to-cut-funding-for-risky-biological-study.html

Here it is directly from the whitehouse
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2014/10/17/doing-diligence-assess-risks-and-benefits-life-sciences-gain-function-research

So the scumbags in HHS and at CDC just issued a contract, and then awarded it to the Chinese, who had no moratorium on conducting such unethical research, although I'm certain the Chinese government will no longer willingly conduct such research, for obvious reasons. The Chinese even claimed the Americans were responsible, and they weren't lying.

I have copies of MERS and SARS patents going back to 2003 or so. Were they originally issued to or by the Chinese?  Noooooooo... U.S. and European companies filed and currently own the original patents on SARS and MERS.


You know all that stimulus money is just bribe money, right? The U.S. Medical community doesn't want to take responsibility for the pandemic it unleashed and is distracting the masses with bread (stimulus) and circuses...



P.S. Pundit. Feel free to join the sjw "cancel culture" and ban me for telling the simple truth on your message board. I fucking dare you! The day I'm not allowed to speak about the truth of what is happening in the real world on one of my favorite game boards, is the day I don't belong there anyway.
 

There's another thread for that topic. You're not silenced, you've just misfiled the library book with the wrong Dewey decimal reference. It's like arguing about Ars Magica when we're playing D&D.

Now about ENWorld: I never got into ENWorld. Any interesting subforums or discussions someone could point me to? rpg-related, I mean. Usually forums are at their most interesting just before they go SJW - it's because they were getting interesting the SJWs had to turn them shitty. So there must be some good stuff there now! Show me!

Quote from: GameDaddy on March 02, 2021, 05:39:26 AM

Quote from: Pat on February 28, 2021, 10:17:43 PM
(Edited out some covid, because it doesn't belong on this board.)

P.S. Pundit. Feel free to join the sjw "cancel culture" and ban me for telling the simple truth on your message board. I fucking dare you! The day I'm not allowed to speak about the truth of what is happening in the real world on one of my favorite game boards, is the day I don't belong there anyway.

LOL, Has that ever worked for anyone? Ever? Let me guess what is next! Are you going to DOUBLE DOG DARE HIM? Yeah do THAT! Nobody could EVER resist the DOUBLE DOG DARE!
Come on Dude. Either play by the rules or don't. That's fine if you do not like the rules and end up deciding to leave over them. It's even fine to stat that fact. That's how a lot of us ended up here instead of over on ENworld. Say your peace and leave like a adult.

Screaming and yelling and DARING Mods to Kick you? Why? Do you really think that they will change the entire site and alter the rules just so you can post whatever YOU feel is TRUE regardless of what they want the board to be about? No, No way do you really think that right.

What you want is to signal to others ...Look at me! Look at what they are gonna do to me!

Bah! Stand up and be an adult.

I for one do not want to see Politics and Covid and mask wearing all over the place here. I literally get all that EVERY SINGLE OTHER PLACE it would be awesome to have one place to just talk role playing games.

Quote from: GameDaddy on March 02, 2021, 05:39:26 AM

<anemic off topic bitching here>

P.S. Pundit. Feel free to join the sjw "cancel culture" and ban me for telling the simple truth on your message board. I fucking dare you! The day I'm not allowed to speak about the truth of what is happening in the real world on one of my favorite game boards, is the day I don't belong there anyway.

Actually, I think it would be more constructive if Pundit didn't ban you, but instead made fun of you for your learning disabilities and inability to read simple English.

Quote from: GameDaddy on March 02, 2021, 05:39:26 AM

*EDITED: COVID STUFF*

P.S. Pundit. Feel free to join the sjw "cancel culture" and ban me for telling the simple truth on your message board. I fucking dare you! The day I'm not allowed to speak about the truth of what is happening in the real world on one of my favorite game boards, is the day I don't belong there anyway.

You would be perfectly free to post what you did on this forum. Just NOT ON THIS SUBFORUM, WHICH IS ABOUT GAMING.

Don't post in this thread again, and don't post about off-topic material on the RPG Discussion forum at all. This is your only warning.

I wish more gamers would act like adults instead of children in adult bodies.

I don't agree with Pundit yet if he says take the conversation elsewhere on the forum do so. None one here is interested in an immature display of the Oppression Olympics.  I just don't get the acting like it's a badge of honour to asked to be banned. Again no one cares and most mature (at least mentally) gamers just leave with some dignity.

Yes other forums are more repressive yet at the same time gamers decide have an immature public meltdown then wonder why they were banned "unfairly".

Quote from: Gameogre on March 02, 2021, 07:58:34 AM

LOL, Has that ever worked for anyone? Ever? Let me guess what is next! Are you going to DOUBLE DOG DARE HIM? Yeah do THAT! Nobody could EVER resist the DOUBLE DOG DARE!
Come on Dude. Either play by the rules or don't. That's fine if you do not like the rules and end up deciding to leave over them. It's even fine to stat that fact. That's how a lot of us ended up here instead of over on ENworld. Say your peace and leave like a adult.

Screaming and yelling and DARING Mods to Kick you? Why? Do you really think that they will change the entire site and alter the rules just so you can post whatever YOU feel is TRUE regardless of what they want the board to be about? No, No way do you really think that right.

What you want is to signal to others ...Look at me! Look at what they are gonna do to me!

Bah! Stand up and be an adult.

I for one do not want to see Politics and Covid and mask wearing all over the place here. I literally get all that EVERY SINGLE OTHER PLACE it would be awesome to have one place to just talk role playing games.

One of the reasons I joined this board way back in 2006, is because the cancel culture that already existed elsewhere. This was literally the last place I could go to talk about the games and subjects that I wanted to talk about without being censored, having my posts modified, moved, or outright deleted. It was the single reason I joined this discussion forum.

Everyone else at the time was saying.... Ohhh the RPGSite?... It's like Mos Eisely Spaceport over there, go there if you want to get into a fight, get raped online, or have your eyes stabbed out with fire. There's a bunch of Baaaaaad gamers over there, people that you don't really want to get to know or like, for that matter.

Back then it was the cunts at WOTC that first ran me off their message boards over there becuase they didn't like what I wanted to talk about, in regards to gaming, or in regards to how to treat other gamers. Enworld was still known as Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News, and no one there cared to talk about original D&D. RPG.Net was just showing signs of being severely dysfunctional with the white wolf crowd preaching their "one true way" to play RPGs in the new age, standing shoulder to shoulder with the Indy Games crowd preaching the GNS gaming theories and other fucked up ways to game, that came from the folks at the Forge. All they wanted, is the same thing the sjw now want, and that is complete control over any discussions about gaming.  They were quite happy making their kiddie rape games like Maid, and trying to foist that crap off as a real RPG, when in fact, they weren't really interested in RPGS at all. 

I found this place quite comfortable because I could speak the truth, and drag lying cunts like Pat through the fires of truth. He wants to be snide, and an ass because he thinks he knows what the words "conspiracy theory" means, meanwhile he is the child of creators of conspiracy theories, and does their bidding, trying to force everyone into the one true way (tm) of correctly thinking, when in fact such thinking is completely based on ignorance and unquestioningly following authorities.

The facts of the matter are the authorities lie, and then lie some more to cover up their lies, pretending people won't notice, or choose not see.

This is superbly relevant to gaming, and an on topic thread. We discuss gaming here, and truth and justice, and liberty, and how games should portray that.

How could we reasonably have RPG games accurately portray Truth, Justice, and Liberty, when the mods of a forum or board censor those who would speak the truth? That is the failure of RPG.net and also the failure (to a lesser extent) of enworld, dragonsfoot, and the 0D&D proboards. feeling good is more important there than the truth, and people need to be censored there just for being disagreeable, whether they are right or not, doesn't matter there.

Here, we have been, for the most part uncensored, and I would prefer it to remain that way. If not, Oh well. It would be a great loss though, since this is still one of the few gaming boards left, where speaking the truth of life and games is valued. But then again, perhaps not. We shall see.     

What an utterly bizarre jeremiad in response to absolutely nothing.

Quote from: Pat on March 02, 2021, 10:49:29 AM
What an utterly bizarre jeremiad in response to absolutely nothing.

You only say this, because you don't even know what you are missing.

The problem with En World and all the other fora being taken over or co-opted by these nuts is that they rarely come in gunz-a-blazin. Instead they sneak in and poison the well a little at a time, turning people to their cult until they have enough leverage. A little demand here, a banning there, another more stringent demand, a few more bannings and so on.

The other problem is that several of the now increasingly worse fora allready had admin who were leaning that way to begin with. So the door was left open and the inevitable happens.

I think the only reaason BGG has not surpassed all the rest in crazy is that they are the only one I know of that relies heavily on revenue from sponsors and especially members to line their pockets. And as they have tightened their grip, censored more, and become more and more openly woke, that revenue has dwindled to the point the last 3 years they have barely made their year end funding goals.

That and resistance from publishers and forum members which is substantially larger than any of the others.