I just left r/OSR after joining it a week ago. Is OSR community like this everywhere?

[Shawn Driscoll]

Good to know. Know of any good communities?

This site is all there is.

[Snowman0147]

IIRC he made some rather lengthy blog posts about it that contained testimony from others who had lived with them at the time of some of the alleged incidents. They directly contradicted Mandy's version of events in a rather damning fashion.

Did they go to court?

[Spinachcat]

Once the lawyers come out, you don't say SHIT about the case till it's done. Running your mouth on the Internet is a great way to screw yourself up.

Practice delayed gratification. It's worth it.

THIS is absolutely crucial life advice. All your social media is discoverable and once verified, it's (often) admissible as evidence.

[Spinachcat]

My question is should I bother with OSR at all?

If you like Old School gaming, whether its via original TSR games or the bazillion retro-whatevers created over the years, then it's worth bothering with the OSR because IMO there's so much cool stuff being created and celebrated.

Of course, every forum is going to have its own "culture"...or lack thereof.

As for "bothering with the OSR", its also important to know where you stand on the whole OSR shenanigans. AKA, are you mostly interested in revisiting TSR-era games? Or new stuff to play with those old games? Or new stuff created in the spirit of the old games? Or a mix of those?

Knowing your OSR focus will also help determine which forums might be the best choice.

[Mr_X]

You might also check out the OD&D forums, https://odd74.proboards.com/. Finarvyn runs a tight ship and the signal to noise ratio of the conversation is excellent.

I saw an absolutely disgusting bit of modding over there in the legacy content thread.  It's one thing to lock a thread, it's another to use that to get the last word in.

And if the next words you say are not "yes, Sir, I am terribly sorry, Sir",

What a power-mad cunt.

[amacris]

I'm not so sure about those numbers. I see them flow out of the cracks in droves whenever one of their banners of Jihad is raised. Even if they are relatively small in number (which I'm not sure about) they are still powerful simply by virtue of being willing to raise hell in support of their aims. They can't simply be waited out or ignored, they have to be actively countered or they will win, time after time.

They're substantially more than 8 to 20 people. I lost 100+ customers alone out of a customer base of 500 over woke-related issues. 20%.  And it's not like a game called "Adventurer Conqueror King" with a scantily-clad woman on the cover is going out of its way to attract the woke in the first place.

I estimate the SJW crowd to make up at least 10% of the OSR and possibly 20%. And, as usual, they have disproprotionate influence over institutions, with wokesters controlling Wizards, Paizo, DriveThruRPG, RPG.net, ENWorld, reddit/rpg, reddit/osr, and the OSR discord, not to mention Kickstarter's RPG channel.

[SHARK]

They're substantially more than 8 to 20 people. I lost 100+ customers alone out of a customer base of 500 over woke-related issues. 20%.  And it's not like a game called "Adventurer Conqueror King" with a scantily-clad woman on the cover is going out of its way to attract the woke in the first place.

I estimate the SJW crowd to make up at least 10% of the OSR and possibly 20%. And, as usual, they have disproprotionate influence over institutions, with wokesters controlling Wizards, Paizo, DriveThruRPG, RPG.net, ENWorld, reddit/rpg, reddit/osr, and the OSR discord, not to mention Kickstarter's RPG channel.

Greetings!

Stay STRONG, brother! Resist them in every way that you can!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[Arkansan]

I saw an absolutely disgusting bit of modding over there in the legacy content thread.  It's one thing to lock a thread, it's another to use that to get the last word in.



What a power-mad cunt.

Yeah, I just read the thread and that was pretty egregious. It's clear the mod in question allowed personal political sentiment to dictate his response. If that's indicative of admin sentiment or a harbinger of things to come for the site then I'll be parting ways. I'm seriously disappointed.

They're substantially more than 8 to 20 people. I lost 100+ customers alone out of a customer base of 500 over woke-related issues. 20%.  And it's not like a game called "Adventurer Conqueror King" with a scantily-clad woman on the cover is going out of its way to attract the woke in the first place.

I estimate the SJW crowd to make up at least 10% of the OSR and possibly 20%. And, as usual, they have disproprotionate influence over institutions, with wokesters controlling Wizards, Paizo, DriveThruRPG, RPG.net, ENWorld, reddit/rpg, reddit/osr, and the OSR discord, not to mention Kickstarter's RPG channel.

There certainly seems to be a tendency to underestimate them. People expecting the woke crowd to go away or leave them alone fundamentally misunderstand who they are. Just the other day I was called liar on the OSR subreddit for stating that you are not in fact a Nazi.

[Shasarak]

I saw an absolutely disgusting bit of modding over there in the legacy content thread.  It's one thing to lock a thread, it's another to use that to get the last word in.

What a power-mad cunt.

I like how Rafael claims that "owning [errors] is the only gentlemanly way to deal with them" at the same time as he is threatening to change a posters user name to dicklicker.

Because that is obviously the gentlemanly thing to do to some one whose next words are not "yes, Sir, I am terribly sorry, Sir".

Once again proof that the ones who complain the loudest and most vociferously about the importance of social justice are actually the worst of us in their hearts.

[GameDaddy]

I like how Rafael claims that "owning [errors] is the only gentlemanly way to deal with them" at the same time as he is threatening to change a posters user name to dicklicker.

This is the same guy that had me perma-banned from the 0D&D74 Message Boards, ...because he is a mod over there too. This is also the same guy that falsely accuses people of being sock puppets because he is using a IP tracker to track and monitor logins on the 0D&D74 and Dragonsfoot message forums. I use Tor alot becuase often I don't want people to know who I am when I visit a message board, or when I'm visiting, but that isn't why he banned me, he's too stupid to figure out where the real traffic is coming from, that is coming to his website.

He perma-banned me from the 0D&D74 Message Board because I refused to unfriend Halenar Frosthelm and quit posting over at the The Ruins of Murkhill, an old school message board, becuase Halenar had offended him (Like I care about that in any way...).

He also moved some old school threads over at the 0D&D74 message boards, threads specifically about the history of Judges Guild, and the contributions of Dave Arneson to creating Dungeons & Dragons, and made them inaccessible to most visitors, which is one of the reasons I objected. He's a dirtbag that doesn't belong in old school gaming circles because of his proclivity in attempting to control the narrative of gaming history and alter it.

There's european money flowing into this attempt to change the history of RPGs. Not sure if this is linked to the sjw's yet, however wouldn't be surprised if they are two sides of the coin so to speak. Whenever I think of this Skotos also comes to mind, which was an old forge/storygamer message board with lots of eurocats that made an unsuccessful run in trying to dominate the online RPG scene from like 1998 to 2006 or so.

If anyone here had any additional insights or information to contribute about this phenomenon, would be very interested to learn more about it.

Rafael = Loser. Liar, and Bully. And that has been my personal experience in interacting with him.

[S'mon]

There's european money flowing into this attempt to change the history of RPGs.

Always got to watch out for those Europeans. They're everywhere! :eek:

[Jason Coplen]

Out of personal experience, don't bother with reddit for tabletop subs. It's as toxic as it gets.

I don't know about that. TBP is a total mess where wrong think sees many people banned.

[GameDaddy]

Always got to watch out for those Europeans. They're everywhere! :eek:

When I say Europeans, I really mean English, of course. But hey, ...new information has come to light, looks like roleplaying was happening in Jolly Olde England in a style we are very familiar with, long before there were any roleplaying games happening here in the United States. That doesn't merit the domination attempts by the English in the U.S. RPG gaming markets though. Like always, they want the largest piece of the pie here, without putting in the work. Good luck with that.

Interestingly, this older version of roleplay starts out with a collection of toy soldiers. My experiences were very similar with that first buy of boxed sets of Airfix and Revell 1/72 soldiers occurring in the summer of 1971. Bought from the german toy store for one Deutsche Mark which was 25c at the time. Now the same boxes retail for $10 or more. Anyway, interesting link of the day for you...


The authors of Wuthering Heights and Jane Eyre were roleplaying long before Dungeons & Dragons.
https://www.dicebreaker.com/categories/roleplaying-game/feature/brontes-roleplaying-before-dnd?fbclid=IwAR1HcSxOzlChT1lqTGT0twJsfLtVXkeOhq1krRsgaIMprUTI4lpn97RDc7Q


Wonder what people are going to do when they learn that women were the first roleplayers?

[S'mon]

That doesn't merit the domination attempts by the English in the U.S. RPG gaming markets though. Like always, they want the largest piece of the pie here, without putting in the work.

Can you give some examples of what you're talking about? Modiphius maybe? Dragonsfoot.org?

[GameDaddy]

Can you give some examples of what you're talking about? Modiphius maybe? Dragonsfoot.org?

Not Modiphus, although I do find it noteworthy that they have licenses to publish RPG and tabletop games for many American games including Star Trek, Fallout, and the Elder Scrolls from Bethesda studios, John Carter, Conan, and Thunderbirds, so it certainly appears they have a strategy in place to attempt to dominate the U.S. RPG Markets in creating a monopoly of IPs.

As for the problems with Raphael over on the OD&D74 would love to provide some examples, however my account remains banned over there by him with the support of Finarvyn, so am unable to show you the direct messages with threats sent to me by Raphael. I'd be surprised if my PMs were still there though, considering all the old school threads and messages that were eliminated, deleted, or otherwise moved by the admins over at 0D&D74 Proboards.