Quote from: Simlasa;1049979I really don't it's a fair assumption that because someone in early '30s America fell for what Hitler was selling that they must have been  on board for what that eventually led to. Even to Lovecraft, Hitler was merely seen as a regrettable 'lesser evil' in the face of communism.
REH was right in his suspicions... but even he wasn't predicting the Final Solution.

I'm not saying "they would have been on board with Holocaust". I'm saying "they would have been on board with a totalitarian regime controlling everything, with all the curtailing of freedoms and violence against undesirables this always implies".
And anyone that says a totalitarian regime didn't imply that to them is automatically guilty of being so ignorant about politics that he or she should have never voiced an opinion on the subject. (Honestly, I prefer people who were on board with a totalitarian state:)).

QuoteOh, I know a couple adult Disney fanatics and they've exposed me to a LOT more of their tribe. It's a thing.

They have skipped any kind of research, have they?

Quote from: Spinachcat;1050004He's got a huge fandom, sometimes almost cult like, among the Disneyana crowd.

He's one of the few Hollywood originators you see lionized in Los Angeles. You won't find much memorabilia about the creators of other studios, but Walt mementos abound.

The world just proved itself to be a bit more dystopic than even I thought:cool:.

Quote from: S'mon;1050008I recently read that after Pearl Harbor, the US military occupied Disney Studios! Apparently Disney was seen as potentially subversive.

They should have carried on, if you ask me:D!

And almost related to this... did you know that there's a First United Church of Chthulhu (F.U.C.C.)? I didn't, either. But they've got a site (and they're roleplayers, it seems;)).
Also, there's this product on drivethru:
 http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/245735/Dizneyland-fhtagn

They things you learn when you google Disney and Lovecraft as part of the keywords:D!

Quote from: AsenRG;1050017I'm not saying "they would have been on board with Holocaust". I'm saying "they would have been on board with a totalitarian regime controlling everything, with all the curtailing of freedoms and violence against undesirables this always implies".
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As would a pile of pro Communist  (or out right Communist) writers of the 20's and 30's, who glorified the Soviet Union, but they do not get vilified for it.

As if small-state liberalism has a long history, compared to paternalistic or outright authoritarian governments. It all makes very much sense viewed through the lense of its time.

As for Lovecraft's views  (as of 1933)  on Nazi's

QuoteAs for Germany today--to call it a "madhouse" is to exaggerated in the grossest fashion. The details of Nazism are deplorable, but they do not even begin to compare in harmfulness with the extravagances of communism. You seem to forget that most of the German people are quietly going about their business as usual, with a much better morale than they had last year. If the Nazi destruction of certain books is silly--& there is no reason to deny that it is--then there is no word to express the abysmal idiocy & turpitude of the bolshevik war on normal culture & expression. Germany has not even begun to parallel Russia in the destruction of those basic values which Western Europeans live by. When I say I like Hitler I do not imply that his is a & blindly against the disintegrative forces which more educated & sophisticated people accept without adequate evidence as inevitable. His neurotic fanaticism, scientific addle-patedness, & crude gaucheries & extravagances are admitted & deplored--& of course it is quite possible that he actually may do more harm than good. Once can scarcely prophesy the future. But the fact remains that he is the sole remaining rallying-point for German morale, & that virtually all of the best & most cultivated Germans accept him temporarily for what he is--a lesser evil at a special & exacting crisis of history. Objections to Hitler--that is, the violent & hysterical objections which one sees outside Germany--seem to be based largely on a soft idealism or "humanitarianism" which is out of places in an emergency. This sentimentalism may be a pleasing ornament in normal times, but it must be kept out of the way when the survival of a great nation hangs in the balance. The preservation of Germany as a coherent cultural & political fabric is of infinitely greater importance than the comfort of those who have been incommoded by Nazism--& of course the number of suffers is negligible as compared with that of bolshevism's victims. If what you say were true--that others could save Germany better than Hitler--then I'd be in favour of giving them a chance. But unfortunately the others had their chance & didn't prove themselves equal to it. [...] Your hatred of Nazism--especially in the light of your extenuation of bolshevism's vastly greater savageries--appears to me to be a matter of idealistic emotion unsupported by historic perspective or by a sense of the practical compromises necessary in tight places. Emotion runs away with you. For example--you get excited about four Americans who were mobbed because they didn't salute the Nazi flag. Well, as a matter of fact, did you ever hear of a nation that didn't mob foreigners who refused to salute its flag in times of political & military emergency? [...] Still--don't get my wrong. I'm not saying that  Adolf is anything more than a lesser evil. A crude, blind force--a stop-gap. The one point is that he's the only force behind which the traditional German spirit seems to be able to get. When the Germans can get another leader, & emerge from the present period of arbitrary fanaticism, his usefulness will be over.

H. P. Lovecraft to J. Vernon Shea, 8 Nov 1933, 000-0655, Letters to J. Vernon Shea 202-203