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I found a use for AI

Started by Ruprecht, December 11, 2024, 05:56:00 PM

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Ruprecht

I've played with AI a bit to create art (some good, most bad) or with a list of descriptions of monsters with the "one hit point look" (AI produced lists then deleted them as dangerous except in certain context and argued about it as I tried to fix my search again and again). So AI is limited when trying to create content.
ChatGPT, if asked a question, provides an answer within seconds.
Lately I've been trying to find info on Neverwinter and the info is scattered over a dozen books and google has been worthless but ChatGPT spit it out in seconds. Not all answers are complete, but they are good enough.
Just thought I'd share that and see if anyone else has opinions.
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing. ~Robert E. Howard

weirdguy564

I'm more interested in AI art.  I've used a couple free websites like Mage.Space in the past, but now I use Tensor Art and CIVIT.
I'm glad for you if you like the top selling game of the genre.  Me, I like the road less travelled, and will be the player asking we try a game you've never heard of.

Ruprecht

I've been playing with AI art and AI maps but so far I've been mostly let down by the free AI I've been trying.
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing. ~Robert E. Howard

Rhymer88

Quote from: weirdguy564 on December 11, 2024, 10:15:22 PMI'm more interested in AI art.  I've used a couple free websites like Mage.Space in the past, but now I use Tensor Art and CIVIT.
For images, I use Fooocus and WebUI that I have installed locally on my computer. It allows me greater control over the output, thanks, in part, to the many loras and checkpoints I can get from civitai.
I find ChatGPT useful when I need a speech for an NPC, for example, or the PCs find a letter.

weirdguy564

Quote from: Rhymer88 on December 12, 2024, 04:26:12 AM
Quote from: weirdguy564 on December 11, 2024, 10:15:22 PMI'm more interested in AI art.  I've used a couple free websites like Mage.Space in the past, but now I use Tensor Art and CIVIT.
For images, I use Fooocus and WebUI that I have installed locally on my computer. It allows me greater control over the output, thanks, in part, to the many loras and checkpoints I can get from civitai.
I find ChatGPT useful when I need a speech for an NPC, for example, or the PCs find a letter.

I also use a locally installed AI. In my case it's Comfy-UI.  Web-UI wouldn't run on my below spec PC.  My Graphics card is old, only half the power recommended to run AI at home.

Mine works, but it's slow AF. But, you're right about running it locally gives better control.  Or, in my case, too much control and a case of analysis paralysis.  It's a bit overwhelming how many sliders and numbers.

CIVIT AI at least has a remix button for any picture you see posted on their site.  If you like it, but want more, or to make a change, just hit Remix and their built in AI is loaded up with all the settings the person used to make the original, including the seed number. 

As for Chat GP I know that the last Legion of Myth podcast I watched with Bear the Forever GM as a guest mentioned it.  Bear was using Chat GP to "solo" play with the GM being Chat GP.  Even he was surprised how fun it was. 

Also, gratuitous pic of AI art. Mecha art I like off of Pinterest, and a locally made Keira Knightley as a rogue I created
I'm glad for you if you like the top selling game of the genre.  Me, I like the road less travelled, and will be the player asking we try a game you've never heard of.

zircher

#5
Locally, I use Fooocus and various lightning XL models to keep the render times down.  While I have experimented with various chat AIs for gaming (and actually had a fair amount of fun), I mainly use it for lists like 20 medieval names, etc.  I have not done any AI stuff for commercial products, it has been entertainment only.

[edit for typo]
You can find my solo Tarot based rules for Amber on my home page.
http://www.tangent-zero.com

Chainzjade

I use AI for art when running a game. It makes quick work instead of me trying to draw it or spending time looking for it on the web. But as much as it helps me I can see where it would hurt artists if everyone used AI instead of hiring an actual artist for books and other commercial purposes.

Sword Devil

AI is great for generating riddles and embedding clues in snippets of books or poetry or statue inscriptions and stuff like that. Also decent for naming things, or at least gets the ball rolling.

Captain_Pazuzu

I've been using the crap out of AI for my games.  It provides a lot of useful physical descriptions.  I also use it to map out scenarios and story arcs. 

Here's a rpompt structure similar to what I use

"Help me design a story for my TTRPG campaign.  The party needs to do X,Y,Z while bad guy tries to thwart them. Can you outline a mystery associated with this as a series of plot points."

That's oversimplified but it will give you a lot of good ideas that you can then tweak to your liking.
 

cbaratz

I've been using ChatGPT to elaborate on my writing and produce images in a solo Ironsworn game. It's surprising useful. I can generate random tables and the images its producing are great, especially compared to my scribbling. I think it lacks the soul of real art but its been great for my solo rpging.

mekhawretch

I've experimented with it a bit and found it's somewhat useful for quickly generating tables of mundane things that would otherwise be laborious to write myself or to look up. Things like '100 items you would find in a medieval peasants house' or '30 wild herbs of medieval England and their uses' - useful for when players go sniffing around some random NPC's house that you didn't prep for, and your brain is too tired to improvise it.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: weirdguy564 on December 12, 2024, 04:52:29 AM
Quote from: Rhymer88 on December 12, 2024, 04:26:12 AM
Quote from: weirdguy564 on December 11, 2024, 10:15:22 PMI'm more interested in AI art.  I've used a couple free websites like Mage.Space in the past, but now I use Tensor Art and CIVIT.
For images, I use Fooocus and WebUI that I have installed locally on my computer. It allows me greater control over the output, thanks, in part, to the many loras and checkpoints I can get from civitai.
I find ChatGPT useful when I need a speech for an NPC, for example, or the PCs find a letter.

I also use a locally installed AI. In my case it's Comfy-UI.  Web-UI wouldn't run on my below spec PC.  My Graphics card is old, only half the power recommended to run AI at home.

Mine works, but it's slow AF. But, you're right about running it locally gives better control.  Or, in my case, too much control and a case of analysis paralysis.  It's a bit overwhelming how many sliders and numbers.

CIVIT AI at least has a remix button for any picture you see posted on their site.  If you like it, but want more, or to make a change, just hit Remix and their built in AI is loaded up with all the settings the person used to make the original, including the seed number. 

As for Chat GP I know that the last Legion of Myth podcast I watched with Bear the Forever GM as a guest mentioned it.  Bear was using Chat GP to "solo" play with the GM being Chat GP.  Even he was surprised how fun it was. 

Also, gratuitous pic of AI art. Mecha art I like off of Pinterest, and a locally made Keira Knightley as a rogue I created

What AI are you using?
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weirdguy564

Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 05, 2025, 11:05:51 PMWhat AI are you using?


It's Stable Diffusion, but the user interface is Comfy-UI.

But, as I said my stuff is slow because my PC is a potato powered wrist calculator.  My graphics card is only half what is required, so a picture takes 3 minutes or so to generate.  A website like Tensor Art can generate 4 images simultaneously in 30 seconds.
I'm glad for you if you like the top selling game of the genre.  Me, I like the road less travelled, and will be the player asking we try a game you've never heard of.

zircher

You might want to look into the Lightning XL models, it requires significantly fewer steps.  It's what I use for my 1660 super (nice card for the price, but not a power house.)

You can find my solo Tarot based rules for Amber on my home page.
http://www.tangent-zero.com

GeekyBugle

Quote from: weirdguy564 on January 07, 2025, 10:30:07 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 05, 2025, 11:05:51 PMWhat AI are you using?


It's Stable Diffusion, but the user interface is Comfy-UI.

But, as I said my stuff is slow because my PC is a potato powered wrist calculator.  My graphics card is only half what is required, so a picture takes 3 minutes or so to generate.  A website like Tensor Art can generate 4 images simultaneously in 30 seconds.

Sorry, my bad, I meant for text.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell