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I don't hate the players, but I'm damn sure I hate the game.

Started by HappyDaze, October 10, 2017, 04:39:39 PM

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HappyDaze

Quote from: Omega;999748Why wont they touch the WEG version? Are they die-hard FFG fans?

If you arent liking the system then all you can do is tell them so and work out a solution. And make it clear that this isnt a snap decision. You are very familiar with the system.

Im in a simmilar problem as locally theres 3e D&D players and Gurps players. But I am ambivalent about 3e and Gurps I just do not like and Im not fond of the company either from past dealing with some of their less pleasant actions. I could DM either easily with a little familiarization. But I'd rather not.

One of them is die-hard FFG fans, another dislikes D6 (but would probably play the D20 version, which I don't really like either), ad the third has never played another RPG before but seems to love the "narrative" aspects of the rules (the parts that I largely loathe). The fourth player is my wife, and she doesn't mind the system but isn't really much of a Star Wars fan and wouldn't be too upset if the game ends.

As for having them continue without me, they are welcome to, but I currently own the materials (one guy has a pair of core rule books, but I'm the guy with the rest of the books and the dice and I'm not going to give these away) and the game is hosted at my place which will obviously not happen if I drop the game. So while they're welcome to continue, I feel like I'll be burdening them if I don't give them sufficient notice.

It's not like the group interaction or the roleplaying is bad, but I dread whenever the damn dice are thrown (I really thin a simple success/failure rsult is more to my liking right now), and that dread grows whenever somebody wants to flip a Destiny point for a "narrative" effect. I ran a session for them last night and started with how unhappy I was with the system. After about 30 minutes, two of them just looked at me and said "OK, can we start now?" After a sigh and a facepalm, I ran a half-assed 4-hour session that liked together elements of three premade encounters. It was rather unsatisfying for me, but they loved it.

Gronan of Simmerya

This has officially gone into the realm of bad gaming, at least for you.  Further, it seems from your account that they don't give a shit that you aren't having fun.

Not gaming is better than bad gaming.  Pull the plug.

If you want to be generous, say you will run until the end of October.  Me, I'd say "Sorry, folks, I'm done."  You had the talk, the result was "we don't care about your fun, we want our MTV," and I say "fuck that shit."
You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

The rules can\'t cure stupid, and the rules can\'t cure asshole.

HappyDaze

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;999880This has officially gone into the realm of bad gaming, at least for you.  Further, it seems from your account that they don't give a shit that you aren't having fun.

Not gaming is better than bad gaming.  Pull the plug.

If you want to be generous, say you will run until the end of October.  Me, I'd say "Sorry, folks, I'm done."  You had the talk, the result was "we don't care about your fun, we want our MTV," and I say "fuck that shit."

I'm not sure if they don't give a shit or if they are just really poor at understanding. I'm pretty good at expressing myself--my job demands it--but one of the two players in question barely raises his eyes from his character sheet and seldom speaks more than a single sentence at a time, and the other always seems a bit distracted (we talked about that after the game, he's got a lot of life stresses right now and depends on the game as a release valve). Like I said before, GMing for them sometimes feels like I'm at work.

Gronan of Simmerya

No matter how you slice it, the answer is still "fuck that shit."

Play some other game, maybe a board game or tile game like Catan.  Or Munchkin, hell, that's always good for some laughs and to unwind.  Or whatever.

But you're not their therapist or a professional entertainer.
You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

The rules can\'t cure stupid, and the rules can\'t cure asshole.

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Headless

Talk to your wife.  She knows what going on.  

You clearly already know what to do?  Thats why you asked us, becuase you knew what we would tell you.  But you don't want to do it for some reason.  I don't know ypu so I don't know the reason.  But your wife might.

Dumarest

Quote from: Headless;999908Talk to your wife.  She knows what going on.  

You clearly already know what to do?  Thats why you asked us, becuase you knew what we would tell you.  But you don't want to do it for some reason.  I don't know ypu so I don't know the reason.  But your wife might.

Wise words.

HappyDaze

yeah. The reason is that i have had trouble fiong a group and i meiss gaming, but this isnto the group form em. shit ive had way too much to tdringk to post right now

HappyDaze

actually fucki t since im drinuk iwll just put this outt oo. myu job is ginving me crap becase i stand up for my eplmyees and actually give a crap while they just keep fucking everyone over while trying to say that they care out pur mission of "exenfing the ehealing ministry of chirst (christiank hospital hob( and someohow trying to keeep the eompleuee happy is a bad thibng fuck them. wine awsa good the been now moving to scotch

yest ime frink posting but i dont fucking carrew

Omega

Ok then.

A: Tell the players you appreciate that they enjoy your DMing. But you really dont enjoy the FFG system and would like to continue with the WEG system. Make it clear why and possibly give them some time to consider options if any really dont want to continue.

B: Work out converting the PCs to WEG or whatever. The system itself is pretty easy so they shouldnt have too many hurdles. Sounds like your main save here is that only 1 player is really into the FFG system. The others may transfer over with little grumbling if any just to keep playing.

C: Have less stress.

HappyDaze


Spinachcat

You should continue running FFG for that group, regardless of feelings, distaste or rising anger.

The end result should be entertaining.
 
At least for us.

HappyDaze

Quote from: Spinachcat;999925You should continue running FFG for that group, regardless of feelings, distaste or rising anger.

The end result should be entertaining.
 
At least for us.

fuxk you i men that in the mmost positive sense

Opaopajr

Well RPGs are of the devil and likely the source of all problems. :p But I vote cutting booze with soda, slapping on some Album Rock, firing up Frazetta art, and let the sauce ride you to your next campaign inspiration. :)
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You know, people keep comparing non-TSR D&D to deck-building in Magic: the Gathering. But maybe it\'s more like Katamari Damacy. You keep sticking shit on your characters until they are big enough to be a star.
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Dave 2

In some fairness to your players, you advertised FFG Star Wars, they signed up for FFG Star Wars, there's no particular reason to expect them to switch to something else.  In fact I've had some of the best games of my life after I got over "group first, agree on a game second" and started recruiting each time for specific games.

But there's also no reason to keep running this.  In a perfect world you'd do what the man said upthread and run one or two closing sessions, but it sounds like maybe you've waited for your fed-upedness to outweigh your politeness, instead of having the difficult conversation right away.