I still don't care about the ennies. It's given out by the whim of the people who run a website whose primary draw is a forum I do not read. Who gives a fuck? Sometimes they give an award to something that deserves it, sometimes they give an award to something that does not. Either way: who cares?

I care about the Origin Awards a little bit, and the Ennies not at all.

-Frank

A bunch of people scratching one another's backs.  :rolleyes:

Quote from: FrankTrollman;397731I still don't care about the ennies. It's given out by the whim of the people who run a website whose primary draw is a forum I do not read. Who gives a fuck? Sometimes they give an award to something that deserves it, sometimes they give an award to something that does not. Either way: who cares?

I care about the Origin Awards a little bit, and the Ennies not at all.

-Frank

Enough people care that on every RPG board I visit there is at least one active thread about it, with a fair amount of activity and at least one person insisting vehemently that they do not care about the Ennies and that the Ennies absolutely matter to no one.

Quote from: Saphim;397702Pathfinder winning on the other hand I don't get. It is just D&D with houserules.

From my perspective it deserves to win some awards, but it won a disproportionate number of awards because:

1) Paizo submitted basically everything they did this year including the Kitchen Sink, to every category they could squeeze them into, and got nominated for essentially everything they submitted;
2) WOTC submitted little this year, and was nominated for even less than they submitted;
3) A lot of unknowns submitted this year, meaning that voters often recognized JUST Paizo products in a ton of categories.

The combination is Paizo sweeping, and probably privately feeling a little guilty for squeezing out the little guys with so many submissions and nominations.  My guess is next year they will submit a bit less.  They don't really need the Ennies for recognition.

I was happy that the Rome supplement for BRP took a silver award... and Eclipse Phase does deserve a lot of praise, our group is just beginning to scratch the surface of its possibilities.

No mention yet of The Day After Ragnarok, which deservedly won the Best Setting award. A brilliant setting for a one of my favorite systems.

Day After Ragnarok also won Supplement of the Year in the Indie Game Awards. It's nice to see more crossover.

The ENnies results actually gave me pause - as a small press publisher it's not obvious that submitting your game for consideration is money well spent. But seeing Lady Blackbird, Armitage Files, Diaspora, Ancient Odysseys and others getting recognized may change that equation, which is awesome.

Quote from: One Horse Town;397708Last time i looked this forum wasn't for pimping.

You know, OHT, I'm not sure I have a problem with a member here posting a link to something he made if it won an award.

Kind of a "local boy makes good" sort of thing...

Quote from: Cylonophile;397810You know, OHT, I'm not sure I have a problem with a member here posting a link to something he made if it won an award.

Kind of a "local boy makes good" sort of thing...

:rotfl:

OHT needs to get Stone Horizons done so it can pimped and duly awarded...

Hmm, I winder if OHT would object to linking to an ennie winner if he'd written it...

To be fair, he did state that he doesn't have a problem with the link in Jason's sig, just not in the post.

I still don't 100% agree with that as nine times out of ten I block out people's sigs when I'm reading anyway, but there you go.

Quote from: Cylonophile;397833Hmm, I winder if OHT would object to linking to an ennie winner if he'd written it...

Poor, poor Cylonophile. :teehee:

As far as I can tell, the ennies are now an outreach award for recognizing games that nobody cares about in a post d-20 world. They represent nothing but the Ennies committee trying to stay relevant and bear the name of a website community that in no way represents or even recognizes (for a large percentage, anyhow) the committee picks. In a sense, the award itself is being voted in as a judge.
the first couple of years the awards were real and honest. Now they culminate in a little blurb on the cover of a game 95% of us will probably never see. let alone play. What do they even mean anymore?

There's always going to be politics if you get way more entries than available awards. PirateCat said there were over 2,000 voters for the awards which was a good thing.

I was glad to see Paizo take home so many awards. It seemed to me for this year, the winners were chosen with a blind vote, with the votes just being tallied, so an important consideration as a game designer is mobilizing your network of supporters to get the word out about your game. You have to get it in front of gamers, and they have to like your game enough to take action (vote) for it.

I like the way the Enworld Business Manager, Danielle handled the controversy, it was the correct choice and changed my opinion on the Ennies. Too bad she is not continuing in her role there.

I also liked that the Judges were each allowed to pick a favorite game of theirs as well and nominate it for an honorable mention.