If I ask it for a D&D adventure by WOTC does it generate a coffee shop simulator?

Quote from: Effete on February 05, 2023, 01:50:43 PM

Quote from: zircher on February 05, 2023, 01:29:36 PM
it's a handy tool if you don't have (or want) a group.  I can see introverts and the creative writing inclined thriving with using AI for inspiration.  Similarly, it will not be appealing to those that are there for the social aspects and require a live audience for their enjoyment.

Even with a group it's a handy tool. GMs have been using random adventure generators for years. This isn't much different. It's obviously flawed in many ways and would be crap to run off the page, but it's fine for establishing a framework to work off of.

My prediction is that larger developers (especially those bankrupt of creativity, like WotC) will use it to pump out bland, subpar content at a premium price. Bjorn Andreas Bull-Hansen recently put out a video talking about his concern over AI replacing authors here.

AI will certainly revolutionize solo roleplaying. As for group play, it is, as others have mentioned, a handy tool, especially since it can also instantly create NPCs complete with backstories. The adventures are  pretty bland unless the GM feeds the AI with interesting plot hooks or adventure seeds. What surprised me is how little ChatGPT actually "knows". I used it to flesh out a Traveller adventure at a mining colony on a desert planet. Even though I told the AI that the planet was tidally locked and the mine was located on the perpetually sunlit side, ChatGPT kept on wanting to talk about what will happen when the sun sets. After a while, I ordered it to drop all references to sunset or sunrise. So, it then began to write "when night falls..." I really lost my patience with it then.

Quote from: Rhymer88 on February 13, 2023, 02:37:54 AM

AI will certainly revolutionize solo roleplaying. As for group play, it is, as others have mentioned, a handy tool, especially since it can also instantly create NPCs complete with backstories. The adventures are  pretty bland unless the GM feeds the AI with interesting plot hooks or adventure seeds. What surprised me is how little ChatGPT actually "knows". I used it to flesh out a Traveller adventure at a mining colony on a desert planet. Even though I told the AI that the planet was tidally locked and the mine was located on the perpetually sunlit side, ChatGPT kept on wanting to talk about what will happen when the sun sets. After a while, I ordered it to drop all references to sunset or sunrise. So, it then began to write "when night falls..." I really lost my patience with it then.

Oh, yeah, it's definitely still flawed. But as I understand, ChatGPT is still in the process of "learning",  so I'm sure the developers will say these mistakes are likely to occur. Until it can actually process these details correctly, it's not going to be anything more than a novelty.

As I mentioned, using it as a "random adventure generator" (i.e. - essentially providing the same info a couple rolls on some tables would provide) that the GM then goes in and polishes up can be a useful application. Solo play might benefit as well, if you keep the commands simple ("I attack the goblins. What do they do?"). If you rely too heavily on the bot for solo play, I think you'll run into the same frustrations you did. That is, if and until it gets better at understanding what it's told.

OK, as promised, here's my research on how to employ Chat GPT for dungeon generation through diagram parsing approach. Also, a bonus map drawn by me from the output.

https://vladar.bearblog.dev/chatgpt-dungeon-maps/

Quote from: Vladar on February 18, 2023, 11:27:11 AM
OK, as promised, here's my research on how to employ Chat GPT for dungeon generation through diagram parsing approach. Also, a bonus map drawn by me from the output.

https://vladar.bearblog.dev/chatgpt-dungeon-maps/

That is pretty impressive. When I have time I hope to try this out.

They have been spambotting Reddit for the last month or two and 75% are not even dime store quality and the rest are cut and past from someone elses worls the things trawl off the net.

Quote from: Omega on February 18, 2023, 07:56:08 PM
They have been spambotting Reddit for the last month or two and 75% are not even dime store quality and the rest are cut and past from someone elses worls the things trawl off the net.

Just waiting for those copyright strikes for when the A.I. verges too close to someone's IP. Or steals a proper name.

Quote from: Effete on February 19, 2023, 01:44:56 AM

Quote from: Omega on February 18, 2023, 07:56:08 PM
They have been spambotting Reddit for the last month or two and 75% are not even dime store quality and the rest are cut and past from someone elses worls the things trawl off the net.

Just waiting for those copyright strikes for when the A.I. verges too close to someone's IP. Or steals a proper name.

The AI art things have been caught copying even signatures and watermarks a few times. Unfortunately people are now just using it and not telling anyone and every art piece has to be questioned if the artist dodnt provide a sketch too. This is just going to get worse.

most of the examples seen that these halfwits are creaming themselves over have been so less than mediochre and as someone pointed out, Glorified Elizas.

Quote from: Omega on February 20, 2023, 08:12:19 AM
The AI art things have been caught copying even signatures and watermarks a few times. Unfortunately people are now just using it and not telling anyone and every art piece has to be questioned if the artist dodnt provide a sketch too. This is just going to get worse.

most of the examples seen that these halfwits are creaming themselves over have been so less than mediochre and as someone pointed out, Glorified Elizas.

The real problem is when people start using AI to supplant human talents. As someone demonstrated above, you can get fairly decent material from it if you put in the effort. The process will only get easier as the technology improves. What worries me is when this turns into an over-reliance. Why pay an artist a couple hundred dollars to do your cover when an AI can do a dozen covers in the same style for half the price? This isn't a dig at being frugle or economically sensible, it's a warning about setting a precedent. The slippery slope isn't a fallacy if you're sliding down it. If an AI can make a picture or write a book reasonably well, what's the next step? City-planning? Designing buildings? Writing laws?

The danger of AI isn't some doomsday Skynet scenario. The danger is what people will use it for, and the prospect of replacing humans. A hammer can build a house. It can also tear a house down... or bash someone's skull in.

Quote from: Vladar on February 18, 2023, 11:27:11 AM
OK, as promised, here's my research on how to employ Chat GPT for dungeon generation through diagram parsing approach. Also, a bonus map drawn by me from the output.

https://vladar.bearblog.dev/chatgpt-dungeon-maps/

Bravo to you. That's amazing.

We are getting close to what my end game goal is: To take this output of what you spin up and out and tie it into a a fully mapped out randomly generated dunegon using the dungeomorph tiles we see all the time.  If there was some way to combine these 2 functions together we could get a fully blown out map with more intricately labeled , and useful, room entries for use in a map.

Quote from: Omega on February 20, 2023, 08:12:19 AM
The AI art things have been caught copying even signatures and watermarks a few times.

I need to step in here and clarify something.  AI Art does not copy anything, it generates images from random noise and seeds.  It is a collection of rules and statistics called a model.  Based on the training data used, it tries to create signatures and water marks (unintelligently) because that's part of the data it was fed.  Ever notice that all its text and signatures are gibberish?  That's because it has no meaning to the AI except as an image pattern/rule.

Continuing the experiment, also a bonus dungeon level.

https://vladar.bearblog.dev/castle-of-gpt-stocking-the-dungeon/

Stocking the dungeon made me think, "Do you go to Ikea for that?"   

Quote from: zircher on March 04, 2023, 10:15:51 AM
Stocking the dungeon made me think, "Do you go to Ikea for that?"   

Hmm, dungeon stocking Ikea...

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ChatGPT:

Assuming the dungeon stocking Ikea is run by humans, they might serve non-perishable or long-lasting foods such as dried meats, hardtack, and preserved fruits. They may also have a variety of canned goods, like soups or vegetables. If the dungeon is near a body of water, they may also serve preserved fish or other seafood.

If the dungeon stocking Ikea is run by non-human creatures, the food they serve might be more exotic and catered to their unique tastes. For example, if the dungeon is inhabited by goblins, they may serve roasted rats or insects. If it is inhabited by trolls, they may serve raw meat.

LOL, that's a sensible answer.  Just don't ask what the swedish meatballs are made of.