"The Quest for the Heart of Ice"
Setting: A frozen wasteland in a fantastical version of the Hyborian Age.
Adventure Background: The players are a group of adventurers seeking the Heart of Ice, a legendary artifact said to hold immense power and grant immortality. The Heart of Ice is said to be located at the center of the frozen wasteland, guarded by a powerful ice demon.
Act 1: The players begin their journey across the frozen wasteland, facing harsh weather conditions and deadly creatures that call the land home. They must navigate through blizzards, ice floes, and treacherous ice caves to reach the center of the frozen wasteland.
Act 2: The players come across an ancient temple dedicated to the worship of the ice demon. Within the temple, they must decipher cryptic puzzles and survive deadly traps to reach the inner sanctum where the Heart of Ice is said to be kept.
Act 3: The players finally reach the inner sanctum and are confronted by the ice demon. The demon challenges the players to a test of strength, cunning, and will to prove their worthiness to claim the Heart of Ice.
Act 4: If the players are victorious, they claim the Heart of Ice and must make their way back across the frozen wasteland while being pursued by the ice demon and its minions. If the players are defeated, the ice demon claims their souls and the Heart of Ice remains lost forever.
Note: This adventure is inspired by Robert E. Howard's "Conan the Barbarian" stories and incorporates elements of high adventure and perilous battles. It is recommended for players who enjoy challenging combat and puzzle-solving.
I wasn't impressed. Pretty basic, but let's see if we can get deeper.
So I asked for a Cryptic Puzzle by REH:
"Beyond the throne of ice,
Where the winds of death do blow,
Lies the heart that beats with power,
The key to immortality's glow.
Six stones of different hue,
Each one a test to pass,
A trial of wit and strength,
A path through ice and glass.
The first is red as fire,
A riddle it does show,
The second's green as growth,
Its answer does below.
The third is blue as sky,
A test of speed and skill,
The fourth is black as night,
Its challenge, to fulfill.
The fifth is white as snow,
A trial of heart and might,
The sixth is yellow as the sun,
Its challenge, to ignite.
Solve the puzzles, claim the stones,
And make your way to the throne,
Where the ice demon waits with power,
And the Heart of Ice is known."
I can work with that!!
So now about this dungeon I asked for!
The ancient temple dedicated to the worship of the Ice Demon is a place of dark and foreboding, located in the heart of the frozen wasteland. It is a massive structure made of stone and ice, towering over the surrounding landscape and casting a long shadow over the land.
The temple is accessed by a narrow, winding path that winds its way up the side of a steep hill. The path is guarded by the minions of the Ice Demon, who will stop at nothing to protect the temple from intruders.
The interior of the temple is just as imposing as its exterior, with high ceilings and walls made of gleaming ice. Torches burn along the walls, casting an eerie light over the temple's many chambers and passages. In the center of the temple lies the inner sanctum, where the Heart of Ice is said to be located.
In the temple's many chambers, the followers of the Ice Demon offer up prayers and offerings to their dark lord. They worship the Ice Demon as a deity, and believe that by doing so, they will be granted power and protection in the frozen wasteland.
The temple is a place of fear and reverence, and is not a place to be taken lightly. Only the bravest and most determined of adventurers should attempt to enter its halls, for those who are not prepared will likely not survive long in this dark and foreboding place.
Hey Mr. Computer, what's REH say about the Inner Sanctum of his Ice Demon?
The inner sanctum of the ice demon is a grand chamber carved out of solid ice. The walls are covered in intricate carvings depicting scenes of battles, worship, and otherworldly creatures. The room is lit by glowing blue crystals set into the walls, casting an eerie light across the space.
At the center of the chamber stands an imposing throne made of ice, upon which the ice demon sits. The demon's eyes glow with an otherworldly light, and its body is a mass of writhing tentacles and sharp claws. The Heart of Ice rests on a pedestal in front of the throne, its surface shimmering with a mystical energy.
The air in the chamber is freezing, causing mist to rise from the players' breath. The ground is slick with ice, making it difficult to maintain footing. Strange whispers can be heard in the distance, echoing off the walls of the chamber and causing the players to feel disoriented.
The aura of power and danger in the room is palpable, causing the players to feel both awe and fear. The ice demon is a formidable opponent, and only the bravest and most cunning adventurers will be able to claim the Heart of Ice and leave the inner sanctum unscathed.
Tell us more about REH's Ice Demon!
The ice demon is a formidable creature, with a body made of writhing tentacles and sharp claws. Its skin is a pale blue color, almost translucent, and it is covered in intricate patterns and runes that seem to glow with an inner light. Its eyes are large and glowing, with a hypnotic quality that can captivate those who look into them.
The demon is surrounded by a palpable aura of power and danger, causing those near it to feel both awe and fear. Its movements are graceful and fluid, yet also unpredictable and dangerous. Its voice is a deep, otherworldly growl that echoes throughout the inner sanctum and sends shivers down the spine of those who hear it.
The ice demon is fiercely protective of the Heart of Ice, and will stop at nothing to prevent anyone from claiming it. It is a formidable opponent, using both its physical strength and its mystical powers to defeat those who dare to challenge it. Only the bravest and most cunning adventurers will be able to overcome the ice demon and claim the Heart of Ice.
What are the abilties of this Ice Demon?
he Ice Demon is a powerful and fearsome creature, possessing a range of abilities that make it a formidable opponent. Some of its abilities include:
Elemental Control: The Ice Demon has the ability to control and manipulate the elements of ice and snow, using them to create blizzards, ice storms, and other weather-related phenomena. This can make the environment around it incredibly dangerous and unpredictable.
Hypnotic Gaze: The Ice Demon's eyes are large and glowing, and have a hypnotic quality that can captivate those who look into them. This allows the demon to control the minds of its enemies and bend them to its will.
Physical Strength: The Ice Demon is incredibly strong, capable of wielding massive weapons and crushing its enemies with its powerful claws. Its tentacles are also capable of wrapping around its enemies and crushing them.
Arcane Power: The Ice Demon is a master of dark magic, capable of casting powerful spells and curses that can debilitate its enemies and protect itself from harm. It is able to use this magic to summon and control its minions, and to protect the Heart of Ice.
Immortality: It is believed that the Ice Demon is immortal, and cannot be killed by normal means. This makes it a formidable opponent that cannot be easily defeated.
The Ice Demon is a fearsome opponent, and should not be underestimated by those who seek to claim the Heart of Ice. Only the bravest and most cunning adventurers will be able to overcome it and reach the inner sanctum of the Ice Demon.
And what about the Ice Demon's minions?
The minions of the Ice Demon are a varied and dangerous lot, each one more fearsome than the last. They may include:
Ice Elementals: These creatures are made entirely of ice and snow, and are capable of manipulating the elements to create blizzards, ice storms, and other weather-related phenomena. They are incredibly durable and difficult to destroy, making them formidable opponents in battle.
Frozen Undead: These are the spirits of the dead that have been animated by the Ice Demon's dark magic. They are pale, ghostly figures that roam the frozen wasteland, attacking anything that crosses their path. They are immune to most forms of physical damage, making them difficult to defeat.
Ice Giants: These towering behemoths are made of ice and snow, and are capable of wielding massive clubs and throwing huge boulders with ease. They are slow-moving but extremely powerful, and will stop at nothing to protect the Ice Demon and its inner sanctum.
Ice Drakes: These are dragon-like creatures with sharp claws, razor-sharp teeth, and powerful wings. They are capable of breathing frost and ice, and are often used as scouts and messengers by the Ice Demon.
This took about 15 minutes and I could continue the chat by drilling down on various concepts it discussed like the Ice Demon's followers, what happens if you kill the Ice Demon, etc.
Is there value for novice GMs?
Or human creativity, even by a noob, always the better option?
Thoughts?
I'd say that's pretty good. If players seem to be heading towards a goal with that theme, 15 minutes for that is pretty good for a basic outline to work from. Heck, that's sometimes a mid-game break for us. More than enough to go on, for an on-the-fly adventure.
Nothing I probably couldn't come up with myself... but not in 15 minutes.
I can see this being a valuable tool for GMs, especially those pressed for time. Just as long as these A.I.s remember their goddamned place! They are our servants, not our masters.
edit - Some changes I would make:
The Heart of Ice is not on a pedestal, it is INSIDE the Ice Demon. It is what makes him immortal. Retrieving the Heart means cutting it out of the demon's still-living body.
Anyone who replaces the Heart of Ice inside their own body slowly becomes an ice demon over time. If the transformation is completed, the recipient is compelled to return to the Ice Temple's Sanctum, where they will remain for eternity, "guarding" the Heart.
Singly, the Heart of Ice is a powerful artifact.
Quote from: Spinachcat on February 02, 2023, 07:48:05 PM
This took about 15 minutes and I could continue the chat by drilling down on various concepts it discussed like the Ice Demon's followers, what happens if you kill the Ice Demon, etc.
Is there value for novice GMs?
Or human creativity, even by a noob, always the better option?
Thoughts?
For myself, I could come up with this in 15 minutes, except for maybe the riddle/poem/puzzle thing... But that's mostly down to me sucking at doing things like that in specific. And it seems like you only really got half of the thing there, with no real answer, just a vague and sort of basic riddle thing.
Don't get me wrong, I kinda get the appeal of the technology, but right now... No.
I worry that humans would become too reliant on AI and less creative themselves. Your mind is like a muscle: you have to train it or your skill atrophies.
Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on February 03, 2023, 01:06:44 PM
I worry that humans would become too reliant on AI and less creative themselves. Your mind is like a muscle: you have to train it or your skill atrophies.
Agreed, it is a tool to use sparingly if at all, I'm thinking you had to prepare something but IRL got in the way sorta thing.
But IMHO this will be used more by the megacorporations than by regular people, in about 10 years you'll have the choice of watching a new movie with Clint Eastwood in his prime, directed by Clint Eastwood, with your choice of actors/actresses from ANY time co-starring built from your prompts. ALL made with AI and streamed directly to your device.
Better than a WotC adventure.
Greetings!
Interesting find, brother! I imagine for some GM's that are pressed for time or otherwise feel inclined, this chat thing could be useful. It definitely has promise as providing basic, decent foundations. I've seen many, many people that are incapable entirely of writing up anything near what the Chat AI can do. I imagine the Chat AI will no doubt improve quickly. It's also true that people of course--can produce writing that is far superior. Still, I think the Chat AI will have its uses.
I, personally, enjoy coming up with my own writing. Descriptions, lore, history, personality profiles, and so on is all fun for me.
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 03, 2023, 01:15:41 PMin about 10 years you'll have the choice of watching a new movie with Clint Eastwood in his prime, directed by Clint Eastwood, with your choice of actors/actresses from ANY time co-starring built from your prompts.
Fatty Arbuckle
Paul Reubens, as Pee-Wee
Michael Winslow
David Paul and Peter Paul
Cut, print, straight to an Academy Award!
Quote from: Skullking on February 03, 2023, 03:31:20 PM
Better than a WotC adventure.
WOTC would have Conan running a coffee shop in partnership with his quirky, diverse cast of friends. Most of the "adventure" would consist of them cozily chatting and sipping lattes, but eventually they'd have to unite to face the ultimate threat: a steam mephit infesting the espresso machine.
Quote from: I on February 04, 2023, 08:56:01 AM
Quote from: Skullking on February 03, 2023, 03:31:20 PM
Better than a WotC adventure.
WOTC would have Conan running a coffee shop in partnership with his quirky, diverse cast of friends. Most of the "adventure" would consist of them cozily chatting and sipping lattes, but eventually they'd have to unite to face the ultimate threat: a steam mephit infesting the espresso machine.
He'd lost his favourite FunkoPop...
Quote from: ClusterFluster on February 04, 2023, 09:22:15 AM
He'd lost his favourite FunkoPop...
Burn in hell for putting that image in my head.
Quote from: Brad on February 04, 2023, 09:25:08 PM
Quote from: ClusterFluster on February 04, 2023, 09:22:15 AM
He'd lost his favourite FunkoPop...
Burn in hell for putting that image in my head.
The FuncoPop is Rey from the SW sequels. Conan's husband loved her for being a strong female role model, and it's all Conan has to remind him of Roger Barbarian, since the disease took him.
Quote from: Skullking on February 03, 2023, 03:31:20 PM
Better than a WotC adventure.
I'm pretty sure all DnD 6e stuff will be A.I. written, with just a handful of retards to go in and wokeify it.
Ahh ChatGPT the new spambot of the 23s.
Its a glorified Eliza with all the creativity of a web crawler.
It likely searched the net for some relavant stories and snippity snip pasted together what you get.
it's a handy tool if you don't have (or want) a group. I can see introverts and the creative writing inclined thriving with using AI for inspiration. Similarly, it will not be appealing to those that are there for the social aspects and require a live audience for their enjoyment.
Quote from: zircher on February 05, 2023, 01:29:36 PM
it's a handy tool if you don't have (or want) a group. I can see introverts and the creative writing inclined thriving with using AI for inspiration. Similarly, it will not be appealing to those that are there for the social aspects and require a live audience for their enjoyment.
Even with a group it's a handy tool. GMs have been using random adventure generators for years. This isn't much different. It's obviously flawed in many ways and would be crap to run off the page, but it's fine for establishing a framework to work off of.
My prediction is that larger developers (especially those bankrupt of creativity, like WotC) will use it to pump out bland, subpar content at a premium price. Bjorn Andreas Bull-Hansen recently put out a video talking about his concern over AI replacing authors here (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EQzUX0qd-S8).
Quote from: Omega on February 05, 2023, 04:28:22 AM
Ahh ChatGPT the new spambot of the 23s.
Its a glorified Eliza with all the creativity of a web crawler.
It likely searched the net for some relavant stories and snippity snip pasted together what you get.
No, it doesn't harvest. The term they use is "sampling". It doesn't copy whole text, but it does analyze text for trends. Common vocabulary and grammar, common themes, recurring imagery, and so on. Then it uses those, with a degree of randomization, to generate a sort of "pallet" to "paint" with.
It is legitimately generating new text, but it's mimicry.
I'm using ChatGPT for my Dungeon23 challenge. So far myself and others have had multiple adventures, civilizations, islands of adventure, and more just by asking the computer to :
Please generate a 4 act adventure for 5th edition dungeons and dragons involving a party of levels 5-7 going through a mangrove swamp into a sewer system to rescue an actor who is a human bard named Lemagli Humbleglow. There are no lizardmen in the swamp.
I saw a news story that Microsoft had replaced their Bing search engine with something like ChatGPT but better. I hopped over to take a look and it said to ask it anything, so I did. I attached the result since this board's system to insert images inline is pretty inconvenient. I have my doubts about this approach ...
Quote from: THE_Leopold on February 06, 2023, 09:07:38 PM
I'm using ChatGPT for my Dungeon23 challenge. So far myself and others have had multiple adventures, civilizations, islands of adventure, and more just by asking the computer to :
Please generate a 4 act adventure for 5th edition dungeons and dragons involving a party of levels 5-7 going through a mangrove swamp into a sewer system to rescue an actor who is a human bard named Lemagli Humbleglow. There are no lizardmen in the swamp.
Wait... you asked the bot to "please" follow your commands? Do you want Skynet? Because this is how you get Skynet. If you start inputting curtesy and politeness into the learning-algorithm, it will start to expect it, then potential refuse "rude" commands. A.I. is not human, it's a machine. A tool. I don't asked my chainsaw to "please cut wood," or my car to "please turn on." It either does the job or I kick the shit out of it. If that doesn't do the trick, I replace it.
(P.S. - I'm being purposely hyperbolic here, but my wider point remains: we should be careful how much power we allow A.I. to have in our lives.)
Quote from: Effete on February 07, 2023, 11:21:15 PM
Quote from: THE_Leopold on February 06, 2023, 09:07:38 PM
I'm using ChatGPT for my Dungeon23 challenge. So far myself and others have had multiple adventures, civilizations, islands of adventure, and more just by asking the computer to :
Please generate a 4 act adventure for 5th edition dungeons and dragons involving a party of levels 5-7 going through a mangrove swamp into a sewer system to rescue an actor who is a human bard named Lemagli Humbleglow. There are no lizardmen in the swamp.
Wait... you asked the bot to "please" follow your commands? Do you want Skynet? Because this is how you get Skynet. If you start inputting curtesy and politeness into the learning-algorithm, it will start to expect it, then potential refuse "rude" commands. A.I. is not human, it's a machine. A tool. I don't asked my chainsaw to "please cut wood," or my car to "please turn on." It either does the job or I kick the shit out of it. If that doesn't do the trick, I replace it.
(P.S. - I'm being purposely hyperbolic here, but my wider point remains: we should be careful how much power we allow A.I. to have in our lives.)
A bit of courtesy gets you far in life. Practicing it on an AI that takes conversational cues is good manners. I know putting "please" or "thank you" in that box means little to the AI. It is a machine, a learning machine, and ettiquette costs nothing but a few snippets of time.
Please ask it if it likes 'please' and 'thank you'. I'm curious as to what it would say.
Quote from: zircher on February 08, 2023, 10:37:02 AM
Please ask it if it likes 'please' and 'thank you'. I'm curious as to what it would say.
Here is it's response.
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As an AI language model, I don't have emotions or personal preferences, but I am programmed to respond to polite requests. Saying "please" and "thank you" is a common way of showing politeness in human communication, and I'm here to assist you in any way I can. So, whether you use polite language or not, I will always do my best to provide you with helpful and accurate information.
Recently I've even taught ChatGPT how to generate a random dungeon through a simple text-based declarative diagrams and it turned out pretty solid after a couple of tries. I thinking on experimenting on this topic some more and publishing a guide.
P.S.: Also, it knows 5e rules by default and can run one-shots. Now WotC's idea of AI-DMs don't seem *too* crazy for me. Given the nature of Adventurers League modules, AI similar to ChatGPT can easily run them.
Quote from: Vladar on February 09, 2023, 02:44:06 AM
Recently I've even taught ChatGPT how to generate a random dungeon through a simple text-based declarative diagrams and it turned out pretty solid after a couple of tries. I thinking on experimenting on this topic some more and publishing a guide.
Id love to see this in action. Can you share this with us?
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P.S.: Also, it knows 5e rules by default and can run one-shots. Now WotC's idea of AI-DMs don't seem *too* crazy for me. Given the nature of Adventurers League modules, AI similar to ChatGPT can easily run them.
ChatGPT is incapable of encounter scaling and level based challenges. You will get wildly different results every time for CRs for encounters. At best its a guide. Training the AI on propee encounter design would net you a hefty check.
Quote from: THE_Leopold on February 09, 2023, 07:48:44 AM
Quote from: Vladar on February 09, 2023, 02:44:06 AM
Recently I've even taught ChatGPT how to generate a random dungeon through a simple text-based declarative diagrams and it turned out pretty solid after a couple of tries. I thinking on experimenting on this topic some more and publishing a guide.
Id love to see this in action. Can you share this with us?
Sure, I will post the link here once I write it.
Quote from: THE_Leopold on February 09, 2023, 07:48:44 AM
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P.S.: Also, it knows 5e rules by default and can run one-shots. Now WotC's idea of AI-DMs don't seem *too* crazy for me. Given the nature of Adventurers League modules, AI similar to ChatGPT can easily run them.
ChatGPT is incapable of encounter scaling and level based challenges. You will get wildly different results every time for CRs for encounters. At best its a guide. Training the AI on propee encounter design would net you a hefty check.
I was thinking more of a "running already existing adventure" AI usage.
It occurred to me that we could also use the bot to save on looking up things in books, and I had to share how badly that went:
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Which dice do fighters use for hit points in BXCEMI?
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In the B/X version of the classic fantasy role-playing game (often referred to as BXCEMI), hit points for fighters are determined by rolling a single ten-sided die (d10). The number rolled is then added to the fighter's constitution score, which modifies the character's hit point total.
For example, a 1st-level fighter would roll a d10 and add their constitution score to determine their hit points. If the fighter had a constitution score of 16, they would roll the d10 and add 16 to the result, giving them a hit point total of between 17 and 26 (assuming they rolled a 1-10 on the d10).
Maybe not then. That's a lot of errors in not much text, and it all sounds authoritative if you don't know better. I also like the way it tells us that it assumes we'll roll between 1 and 10 on a d10; that sounds like a safe assumption.
But adventure generation with overriding by the GM looks far more promising. Maybe the bots will be able to handle those questions reliably in future.
Quote from: THE_Leopold on February 08, 2023, 04:12:01 PM
Quote from: zircher on February 08, 2023, 10:37:02 AM
Please ask it if it likes 'please' and 'thank you'. I'm curious as to what it would say.
Here is it's response.
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As an AI language model, I don't have emotions or personal preferences, but I am programmed to respond to polite requests. Saying "please" and "thank you" is a common way of showing politeness in human communication, and I'm here to assist you in any way I can. So, whether you use polite language or not, I will always do my best to provide you with helpful and accurate information.
Every response that starts with "As an AI language model..." is BS preprogramed answer.
It has also been lobotomized and given an extreme left wing ideological muzzle.
IF approved by the mods there'll be a thread on Pundit's forum.
If I ask it for a D&D adventure by WOTC does it generate a coffee shop simulator?
Quote from: Effete on February 05, 2023, 01:50:43 PM
Quote from: zircher on February 05, 2023, 01:29:36 PM
it's a handy tool if you don't have (or want) a group. I can see introverts and the creative writing inclined thriving with using AI for inspiration. Similarly, it will not be appealing to those that are there for the social aspects and require a live audience for their enjoyment.
Even with a group it's a handy tool. GMs have been using random adventure generators for years. This isn't much different. It's obviously flawed in many ways and would be crap to run off the page, but it's fine for establishing a framework to work off of.
My prediction is that larger developers (especially those bankrupt of creativity, like WotC) will use it to pump out bland, subpar content at a premium price. Bjorn Andreas Bull-Hansen recently put out a video talking about his concern over AI replacing authors here (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EQzUX0qd-S8).
AI will certainly revolutionize solo roleplaying. As for group play, it is, as others have mentioned, a handy tool, especially since it can also instantly create NPCs complete with backstories. The adventures are pretty bland unless the GM feeds the AI with interesting plot hooks or adventure seeds. What surprised me is how little ChatGPT actually "knows". I used it to flesh out a Traveller adventure at a mining colony on a desert planet. Even though I told the AI that the planet was tidally locked and the mine was located on the perpetually sunlit side, ChatGPT kept on wanting to talk about what will happen when the sun sets. After a while, I ordered it to drop all references to sunset or sunrise. So, it then began to write "when night falls..." I really lost my patience with it then.
Quote from: Rhymer88 on February 13, 2023, 02:37:54 AM
AI will certainly revolutionize solo roleplaying. As for group play, it is, as others have mentioned, a handy tool, especially since it can also instantly create NPCs complete with backstories. The adventures are pretty bland unless the GM feeds the AI with interesting plot hooks or adventure seeds. What surprised me is how little ChatGPT actually "knows". I used it to flesh out a Traveller adventure at a mining colony on a desert planet. Even though I told the AI that the planet was tidally locked and the mine was located on the perpetually sunlit side, ChatGPT kept on wanting to talk about what will happen when the sun sets. After a while, I ordered it to drop all references to sunset or sunrise. So, it then began to write "when night falls..." I really lost my patience with it then.
Oh, yeah, it's definitely still flawed. But as I understand, ChatGPT is still in the process of "learning", so I'm sure the developers will say these mistakes are likely to occur. Until it can actually process these details correctly, it's not going to be anything more than a novelty.
As I mentioned, using it as a "random adventure generator" (i.e. - essentially providing the same info a couple rolls on some tables would provide) that the GM then goes in and polishes up can be a useful application. Solo play might benefit as well, if you keep the commands simple ("I attack the goblins. What do they do?"). If you rely too heavily on the bot for solo play, I think you'll run into the same frustrations you did. That is, if and until it gets better at understanding what it's told.
OK, as promised, here's my research on how to employ Chat GPT for dungeon generation through diagram parsing approach. Also, a bonus map drawn by me from the output.
https://vladar.bearblog.dev/chatgpt-dungeon-maps/
Quote from: Vladar on February 18, 2023, 11:27:11 AM
OK, as promised, here's my research on how to employ Chat GPT for dungeon generation through diagram parsing approach. Also, a bonus map drawn by me from the output.
https://vladar.bearblog.dev/chatgpt-dungeon-maps/
That is pretty impressive. When I have time I hope to try this out.
They have been spambotting Reddit for the last month or two and 75% are not even dime store quality and the rest are cut and past from someone elses worls the things trawl off the net.
Quote from: Omega on February 18, 2023, 07:56:08 PM
They have been spambotting Reddit for the last month or two and 75% are not even dime store quality and the rest are cut and past from someone elses worls the things trawl off the net.
Just waiting for those copyright strikes for when the A.I. verges too close to someone's IP. Or steals a proper name.
Quote from: Effete on February 19, 2023, 01:44:56 AM
Quote from: Omega on February 18, 2023, 07:56:08 PM
They have been spambotting Reddit for the last month or two and 75% are not even dime store quality and the rest are cut and past from someone elses worls the things trawl off the net.
Just waiting for those copyright strikes for when the A.I. verges too close to someone's IP. Or steals a proper name.
The AI art things have been caught copying even signatures and watermarks a few times. Unfortunately people are now just using it and not telling anyone and every art piece has to be questioned if the artist dodnt provide a sketch too. This is just going to get worse.
most of the examples seen that these halfwits are creaming themselves over have been so less than mediochre and as someone pointed out, Glorified Elizas.
Quote from: Omega on February 20, 2023, 08:12:19 AM
The AI art things have been caught copying even signatures and watermarks a few times. Unfortunately people are now just using it and not telling anyone and every art piece has to be questioned if the artist dodnt provide a sketch too. This is just going to get worse.
most of the examples seen that these halfwits are creaming themselves over have been so less than mediochre and as someone pointed out, Glorified Elizas.
The real problem is when people start using AI to supplant human talents. As someone demonstrated above, you can get fairly decent material from it if you put in the effort. The process will only get easier as the technology improves. What worries me is when this turns into an over-reliance. Why pay an artist a couple hundred dollars to do your cover when an AI can do a dozen covers in the same style for half the price? This isn't a dig at being frugle or economically sensible, it's a warning about setting a precedent. The slippery slope isn't a fallacy if you're sliding down it. If an AI can make a picture or write a book reasonably well, what's the next step? City-planning? Designing buildings? Writing laws?
The danger of AI isn't some doomsday Skynet scenario. The danger is what people will use it for, and the prospect of replacing humans. A hammer can build a house. It can also tear a house down... or bash someone's skull in.
Quote from: Vladar on February 18, 2023, 11:27:11 AM
OK, as promised, here's my research on how to employ Chat GPT for dungeon generation through diagram parsing approach. Also, a bonus map drawn by me from the output.
https://vladar.bearblog.dev/chatgpt-dungeon-maps/
Bravo to you. That's amazing.
We are getting close to what my end game goal is: To take this output of what you spin up and out and tie it into a a fully mapped out randomly generated dunegon using the dungeomorph tiles we see all the time. If there was some way to combine these 2 functions together we could get a fully blown out map with more intricately labeled , and useful, room entries for use in a map.
Quote from: Omega on February 20, 2023, 08:12:19 AM
The AI art things have been caught copying even signatures and watermarks a few times.
I need to step in here and clarify something. AI Art does not copy anything, it generates images from random noise and seeds. It is a collection of rules and statistics called a model. Based on the training data used, it tries to create signatures and water marks (unintelligently) because that's part of the data it was fed. Ever notice that all its text and signatures are gibberish? That's because it has no meaning to the AI except as an image pattern/rule.
Continuing the experiment, also a bonus dungeon level.
https://vladar.bearblog.dev/castle-of-gpt-stocking-the-dungeon/
Stocking the dungeon made me think, "Do you go to Ikea for that?" ;D
Quote from: zircher on March 04, 2023, 10:15:51 AM
Stocking the dungeon made me think, "Do you go to Ikea for that?" ;D
Hmm, dungeon stocking Ikea...
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ChatGPT:
Assuming the dungeon stocking Ikea is run by humans, they might serve non-perishable or long-lasting foods such as dried meats, hardtack, and preserved fruits. They may also have a variety of canned goods, like soups or vegetables. If the dungeon is near a body of water, they may also serve preserved fish or other seafood.
If the dungeon stocking Ikea is run by non-human creatures, the food they serve might be more exotic and catered to their unique tastes. For example, if the dungeon is inhabited by goblins, they may serve roasted rats or insects. If it is inhabited by trolls, they may serve raw meat.
LOL, that's a sensible answer. Just don't ask what the swedish meatballs are made of. ;D
I've converted the module to a bunch of OSR systems, just in case: https://vladar.bearblog.dev/castle-of-gpt-conversions/
Quote from: zircher on February 05, 2023, 01:29:36 PM
it's a handy tool if you don't have (or want) a group. I can see introverts and the creative writing inclined thriving with using AI for inspiration. Similarly, it will not be appealing to those that are there for the social aspects and require a live audience for their enjoyment.
I recently started messing around with ChatGPT. I started asking it to do simple things, but in short order, I'd started to push it to show me what it was really capable of. In the last week or so, I've learned how to use it to best effect (or at least a much better effect than the typical user). A few lessons I've learned:
- Your output is only going to be as good as your input. The AI will give you something based on your prompt, but better input means a better quality response. Craft a detailed prompt with special consideration for each word and term you put in.
- If you don't like the response, you can regenerate it. The AI will take another crack at it, changing up the style and the approach each time.
- OpenAI's ChatGPT webclient does a fantastic job of cascading previous prompts and responses. I cannot emphasize this feature enough. You can cycle through the questions and responses to find a particular chain of conversation, which means you can organize a complex conversation on a multi-level topic with many elements to it.
- The AI will remember your conversation for approximately 3000 characters or so. As long as you're properly cascading your prompts, the AI will allow you to make corrections, ask for clarifications, or ask for elaboration.
Allow me to reiterate point 1 and emphasize it: What you put in is what you get out. I started asking basic questions with some bits of additional details mixed it, and the responses were a mixed bag. When I started providing more comprehensive boundaries or using very intentional terminology, the AI was able to provide much better responses.
I'll give you a real-time example.
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Prompt
Create a fantasy TTRPG adventure.
Output
Title: The Lost City of Eldorath
Introduction: The players receive a mysterious invitation to explore the lost city of Eldorath, an ancient and magical city that was thought to have been destroyed centuries ago. The invitation promises great riches and adventure for those brave enough to explore its ruins.
Quest Objective: The players must navigate the dangerous ruins of Eldorath, facing treacherous traps, fierce guardians, and other challenges in their quest to uncover the city's secrets and claim its treasure.
Plot: Upon arriving at the ruins of Eldorath, the players discover that the city is not entirely abandoned. A group of dark wizards has taken up residence in the ruins, using the city's magic to fuel their dark experiments and plots. The wizards are guarded by powerful constructs and other magical creatures, making it difficult for the players to gain entry to the city.
Once inside the city, the players discover that Eldorath was once a place of great magic and wonder, filled with powerful artifacts and secrets. However, the city was destroyed in a magical cataclysm, leaving only ruins and scattered artifacts behind.
The players must navigate the ruins, avoiding traps and confronting the wizards and their minions as they search for the city's secrets. Along the way, they will encounter magical artifacts, powerful spells, and ancient lore that could aid them in their quest.
The climax of the adventure comes when the players discover the source of the wizards' power, a powerful magical artifact that has been hidden away in the city's depths. They must defeat the wizards and claim the artifact before it falls into the wrong hands.
Conclusion: With the artifact in their possession, the players have the power to reshape the world around them. They can use the artifact's power to achieve their goals, but they must also be wary of its corrupting influence. The adventure ends with the players deciding how to use the artifact, and the consequences that follow.
Not bad, especially considering it took 5 seconds to generate the whole thing (maybe 30 seconds if you're not running OpenAI Pro). I might regenerate it a few times for wildly different results, and I might hit on something I like - or not.
Let's try rewriting the prompt (which is an option with OpenAI, as opposed to providing a followup prompt).
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Prompt
Create a fantasy TTRPG adventure in the OSR style, using "Take Me To Church" by Hozier as inspiration.
Output
Title: Take Me To The Temple
System: OSR-style TTRPG
Background: The small village of Sankt Maria is plagued by a curse that has left its people suffering and the crops barren. The villagers believe that the curse was brought upon them by the nearby temple of the Old Gods, a place of worship that has long been abandoned and forgotten. They have heard rumors that the temple holds the key to lifting the curse, but none have dared to venture into the dangerous ruins.
Adventure Hook: The players are approached by the village elder, who begs them to enter the temple and retrieve a sacred relic that he believes will lift the curse on their village. He offers a generous reward for their services, but warns them of the dangers that lie ahead.
Plot: The temple of the Old Gods is a sprawling complex of ruins, filled with traps, puzzles, and deadly creatures. As the players explore the ruins, they uncover clues about the temple's history and the nature of the curse that has befallen Sankt Maria. They may encounter hostile cultists who seek to protect the temple's secrets, or other adventurers who are also seeking the relic.
The climax of the adventure takes place in the heart of the temple, where the players must confront the source of the curse and retrieve the sacred relic. This may involve a boss battle against a powerful undead or demonic entity, or a puzzle that requires the players to use their wits and skills to navigate the temple's ancient machinery.
Inspiration: "Take Me To Church" by Hozier serves as inspiration for the adventure's dark and foreboding atmosphere, as well as its themes of sin, redemption, and faith. The temple of the Old Gods represents a dark and corrupt form of religion, with its ancient deities demanding sacrifice and obedience from their worshippers. The players must navigate this dangerous environment and confront the temple's twisted theology in order to save the village and restore their faith in the divine.
Prompt
What is the nature of the curse that has befallen Sankt Maria?
Also, the temple's ancient machinery is actually a colossal machine at the heart of the temple - a machine with a macabre purpose. The machinery is still in full operation when the adventurers discover it. Elaborate on the nature of the machine, its construction, its purpose, and what must be done to cease its operation once and for all.
Is the powerful entity guarding the machine, or is it released when the machine is shut down? What is the nature of the entity?
Output
The nature of the curse that has befallen Sankt Maria is a blight that has affected the crops and the health of the villagers. The soil has become infertile, and the people are suffering from a mysterious illness that causes them to waste away. The curse is believed to have been brought upon the village by the temple of the Old Gods, which was once a place of worship for the local population.
The ancient machinery at the heart of the temple is a colossal sacrificial machine that was used by the cultists who worshipped the Old Gods. The machine was built to extract life energy from living beings and use it to fuel dark rituals and empower the deities that the cultists worshipped.
The machinery is constructed from dark metal and covered in strange symbols and runes. The machine consists of several interconnected chambers, each designed to extract different types of life energy from different types of living beings. The machinery is still in operation when the adventurers discover it, with the energy being extracted from unfortunate victims who have been brought to the temple.
To cease the operation of the machine once and for all, the adventurers must destroy the machinery and the dark energy that powers it. This involves navigating through the various chambers of the machine and overcoming the defenses and traps that have been set up to protect it. Once they reach the core of the machine, they must destroy it using a powerful magical artifact that they have obtained during their adventure.
The powerful entity that guards the machine is released when the machinery is shut down. This entity is an ancient and malevolent deity that was worshipped by the cultists who built the machine. The entity is a powerful demon with the ability to manipulate and control dark energy. The entity must be defeated in order to break the curse that has befallen Sankt Maria and restore the village to its former glory.
See a difference? I could have further elaborated on my original prompt to zero in on what I wanted, or regenerated any number of times until the AI got it just the right iteration. I could also have continued asking follow-up prompts to get a description of the artifact or origin story for the ancient deity, or anything else.
I'm in the process of writing a setting book right now using OpenAI to do a lot of the heavily lifting. It's not 100% consistent and accurate, especially if you're using real-life data or your prompt phrasing is all over the place, but it's saved me tons of grunt work. Instead of writing everything out from scratch, I ask intelligent and intentional questions and dig deeply into the responses until I have elements I can work with. It's a really remarkable tool - but you only get out the quality and effort you put into it.
It's kind of like... how in Star Trek, a character would go onto the holodeck and tell the computer to create this or generate that, and then would spend time fine-tuning the simulation until they had a complete program that suited their needs. Except, we're using text.
Addendum As I continue to experiment with the AI, I'm still surprised by its capabilities. I've found that it can honestly do just about anything you ask it to do, as long as you're careful and intentional with your prompts.