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How to make your fantasy world not racist

Started by Thor's Nads, August 24, 2023, 08:35:45 PM

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jhkim

#120
August 31, 2023, 02:30:47 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat on August 30, 2023, 09:34:28 PM
BTW, I love 'racism' in settings - especially fun when you play up the animosity between various monster groups.

It's even fun among PCs! My dwarf cleric just feels bad for human miners. It's like watching toddlers dig holes. And don't get me started on human "craftsmanship" or when they talk about "this is really old".

Agreed. I've had plenty of enjoyment with racism in settings - like in some of my pulp / Golden Age games. However, there are some campaigns/one-shots where racism isn't a feature - because it isn't important in the context of the campaign.

Like, it wasn't significant in my Vikings & Skraelings campaign, and it isn't significant in my current high fantasy D&D campaign.

In other games, it was significant. My Dawn of Fire campaign had a lot of factional fighting -- and my Temple of the Elements campaign was all about fighting an evil race.

Kerstmanneke82

#121
August 31, 2023, 05:26:00 AM
Is my fantasy world racist? No. Is there racism in my fantasy world? Quite sure there is. And, there's slavery. And war. It makes for interesting storytelling.

Now as for the ASI, it is generally accepted that a common goliath would be stronger than a common gnome, except when magic comes into play. Therefore, for example an increase in strength as a basic score is justified. It isn't racist.

Opaopajr

#122
August 31, 2023, 08:38:34 PM
The carob rations are equally distributed among comrades in my settings.  ;) The chocolate is reserved for inner circle loyalists to the party cause.  ;D Dear Leader loves his illustrious victory hot cocoa. Mini marshmellows are only available for Dear Leader when YOU upright that struggling turtle. You want to upright the struggling turtle, don't YOU?  :o

(Seriously though, a land of no antagonists loses a lot of dramatic thrust. That's eventually how you get people killing each other over minutiae. I think Dr. Seuss elaborated on that with Sneetches... I think maybe human history, too, but I forget.  ;D)
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Scooter

#123
September 01, 2023, 10:58:33 AM
Why would you want to make a fantasy world where racism didn't exist?
There is no saving throw vs. stupidity

tenbones

#124
September 01, 2023, 02:10:23 PM
Quote from: Scooter on September 01, 2023, 10:58:33 AM
Why would you want to make a fantasy world where racism didn't exist?

You know why. And precisely none of it has anything to do with actual racism.

But some people love to feel drunk on faux-righteousness drinking that sweet sweet Pseudo Virtue UnKool-Aide.

Omega

#125
September 01, 2023, 02:40:27 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on August 25, 2023, 01:25:31 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 25, 2023, 12:55:12 PM
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Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on August 25, 2023, 11:42:54 AM
The WEF are the same species as us. I think it loses something when you make them a different species and then say it's okay to genocide them.

That's from the elf and they were being genocided by the Scro Economic Foundation for Good.  Now if you think the WEF considers you human, that's quaint, they view most people as being useless, at least the lead advisor to Schwab does.  Creepy really.  You might consider them human, they don't consider you human,  you don't have enough money for that.  Its more altered carbon for those nutters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZP5lIzGNT8
Okay, I don't care anymore. Have fun playing your justified genocide simulator.

You play as you want but...

Isn't saying ALL Orcs are evil the exact same thing?

It's a fantasy game.

Are the humans justified in Starship Troopers? Even if they wiped every single bug of the face of the universe?

The book Starship Troopers or the movie Starship Troopers?

There was no movie.
 
There was though an anime series that had little to do with the books but was somehow more Starship Troopers than this movie everyone claims was made.  8)

VisionStorm

#126
September 01, 2023, 04:55:29 PM
Damn, these are a lot of posts, over a ONE comment from a social media rando, who apparently wants to fuck horses. I know I commented at one point, but that was days ago, and I barely took it seriously.

Thor's Nads

#127
September 01, 2023, 06:48:59 PM
Quote from: VisionStorm on September 01, 2023, 04:55:29 PM
Damn, these are a lot of posts, over a ONE comment from a social media rando, who apparently wants to fuck horses. I know I commented at one point, but that was days ago, and I barely took it seriously.

It's kind of funny. The reason I posted it was the comment encapsulated the ridiculousness that is current progressive thinking. And it was a lot of fun batting it around.
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Nameless Mist

#128
September 01, 2023, 07:32:03 PM
Quote from: VisionStorm on September 01, 2023, 04:55:29 PM
Damn, these are a lot of posts, over a ONE comment from a social media rando, who apparently wants to fuck horses.

She took the brony thing too seriously.  I bet her name is Catherine (the Great).

Domina

#129
September 06, 2023, 01:38:32 AM
I need advice on making it more racist

Hzilong

#130
September 06, 2023, 01:50:54 AM
Quote from: Domina on September 06, 2023, 01:38:32 AM
I need advice on making it more racist

Just use official WotC material from the past 5 years  or so.
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Stephen Tannhauser

#131
September 06, 2023, 06:51:51 PM
Quote from: Thor's Nads on September 01, 2023, 06:48:59 PM
Quote from: VisionStorm on September 01, 2023, 04:55:29 PM
Damn, these are a lot of posts, over a ONE comment from a social media rando, who apparently wants to fuck horses. I know I commented at one point, but that was days ago, and I barely took it seriously.

It's kind of funny. The reason I posted it was the comment encapsulated the ridiculousness that is current progressive thinking. And it was a lot of fun batting it around.

I think I may have had an ulterior motive even I didn't know about.

I criticized the original argument not as being immoral but simply as being impractical, in terms of what made for a good and useful game product, and it only just occurred to me that if a sufficiently manic Wokester bought that argument, ze might decide simply that RPGs, any and all RPGs, are simply inherently too racist as an activity to be redeemed.  Which would be a great incentive to get Wokeness out of the hobby.
Better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. -- Mark Twain

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Koltar

#132
September 07, 2023, 09:59:58 PM
Quote from: Reckall on August 25, 2023, 07:27:52 AM
I already thought that species were not monolithic... :o

Except for the ones who choose to throw a bone at a big blaCK Rectangular Thing...

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Koltar

#133
September 07, 2023, 10:00:56 PM
ALSO:

I have Never thought of D&D as 'blatantly racist'....

-Ed C.
The return of \'You can\'t take the Sky From me!\'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUn-eN8mkDw&feature=rec-fresh+div

This is what a really cool FANTASY RPG should be like :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-WnjVUBDbs

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Exploderwizard

#134
September 07, 2023, 10:13:00 PM
Quote from: Koltar on September 07, 2023, 10:00:56 PM
ALSO:

I have Never thought of D&D as 'blatantly racist'....

-Ed C.

Oh come on now, there is plenty of evidence pointing at Gygax himself being a flaming racist! In the DMG, which he authored, he described the D&D world as being humanocentric. The horror! What were all the elves, dwarves, gnomes, and halflings to think of this? As further evidence look at the non-human draconian level limits imposed on beings he considered less than human. We must erase all evidence of him being connected to D&D at once!  ::)
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