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Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 29, 2023, 04:09:38 PM
You should also stop using the words: Tribe, Tribal, Tribalism acording to WotKKK, they already sanitized MtG from it, comming to your D&D6e soon.

oh, crap, I almost forgot that. They've really completely lost their minds.

Their reasoning for it is especially crazy. They claim this English word is somehow "owned" by Native Americans. Completely ignoring that the word has multiple meanings in real life that apply to different groups worldwide. The USA is divided into political tribes, for example. I can understand removing it from certain contexts due to the baggage that "tribal" equates to "Native American caricature", but this is just insane. For comparison, the protoss in the obscure starcraft series of games were an advanced civilization of space elves loosely divided into tribes who specialized in maintaining different aspects of their civilization, such as their aerospace forces, government bureaucracy, engineering and manufacturing, assassins and black-ops, etc.

Quote from: Krazz on August 28, 2023, 01:32:10 PM

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Quote from: Scooter on August 27, 2023, 09:49:01 PM
Saying that Japanese average higher IQ than a Europeans is both racist AND true.

How is that racist? Have the Left changed the definition again this week?

sigh.  Here is the actual definition of racism from The Oxford Dictionary of the English Language: racism, The theory that distinctive human characteristics and abilities are determined by race.

The left thinks that saying I hate [race] is a racist statement. It isn't.  It might be bigoted but it isn't racist.

Saying the Japanese have higher average IQ than Europeans isn't the same as saying that their IQ is determined by their race.

YOU should rent an IQ before responding.  "Japanese" IS the race in the sentence I wrote.

Quote from: Horace on August 28, 2023, 07:16:13 PM
That's not the definition I grew up with.

I didn't say you grew up with a high level of English language comprehension.  The depth of your English didn't include the word bigot and I'm sure thousands of other  words and their meanings.

Can this thread get more stupid?

We're debating on how using retard's views of "racism" might or might not apply to those of us that don't use those terms in the same way?

Jesus fucking Christ. You guys are LARPING as Replicants giving yourselves the Voight-Kampff Test and trying to suss out who is real.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on August 30, 2023, 12:50:24 PM

Quote from: Thor's Nads on August 30, 2023, 11:42:30 AM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 29, 2023, 04:09:38 PM
You should also stop using the words: Tribe, Tribal, Tribalism acording to WotKKK, they already sanitized MtG from it, comming to your D&D6e soon.

oh, crap, I almost forgot that. They've really completely lost their minds.

Their reasoning for it is especially crazy. They claim this English word is somehow "owned" by Native Americans.

A native American is anyone born in the America's

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on August 30, 2023, 12:50:24 PM

Quote from: Thor's Nads on August 30, 2023, 11:42:30 AM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 29, 2023, 04:09:38 PM
You should also stop using the words: Tribe, Tribal, Tribalism acording to WotKKK, they already sanitized MtG from it, comming to your D&D6e soon.

oh, crap, I almost forgot that. They've really completely lost their minds.

Their reasoning for it is especially crazy. They claim this English word is somehow "owned" by Native Americans. Completely ignoring that the word has multiple meanings in real life that apply to different groups worldwide. The USA is divided into political tribes, for example. I can understand removing it from certain contexts due to the baggage that "tribal" equates to "Native American caricature", but this is just insane. For comparison, the protoss in the obscure starcraft series of games were an advanced civilization of space elves loosely divided into tribes who specialized in maintaining different aspects of their civilization, such as their aerospace forces, government bureaucracy, engineering and manufacturing, assassins and black-ops, etc.

It's a funny thing, I print t-shirts for a living and we do a lot of shirts for the local Blood Tribe, and they love the caricature North American Indian and get it on hockey jerseys and shirts all the time.  And I guess that's there right but what happens if I buy one to support one of their various charity causes and wear it?  Am I now a racist?  It boggles the mind.

Quote from: tenbones on August 30, 2023, 01:09:26 PM
Can this thread get more stupid?

We're debating on how using retard's views of "racism" might or might not apply to those of us that don't use those terms in the same way?

Jesus fucking Christ. You guys are LARPING as Replicants giving yourselves the Voight-Kampff Test and trying to suss out who is real.

The turtle is still on its back, struggling to right itself. Why aren't you helping the turtle right itself, tenbones? /adjusts camera focus

Quote from: tenbones on August 30, 2023, 01:09:26 PMYou guys are LARPING as Replicants giving yourselves the Voight-Kampff Test and trying to suss out who is real.

Oh, I've always known I wasn't real. Nobody real is as full of hot air as I am. 

Quote from: Opaopajr on August 30, 2023, 02:45:56 PM

Quote from: tenbones on August 30, 2023, 01:09:26 PM
Can this thread get more stupid?

We're debating on how using retard's views of "racism" might or might not apply to those of us that don't use those terms in the same way?

Jesus fucking Christ. You guys are LARPING as Replicants giving yourselves the Voight-Kampff Test and trying to suss out who is real.

The turtle is still on its back, struggling to right itself. Why aren't you helping the turtle right itself, tenbones? /adjusts camera focus

/starts shooting randomly secretly confused why I don't look like any of the pictures of myself in the wallet they handed me. Why does this turtle make me think of me not helping me? Does not compute. Must shoot.

Quote from: Opaopajr on August 30, 2023, 02:45:56 PM

Quote from: tenbones on August 30, 2023, 01:09:26 PM
Can this thread get more stupid?

We're debating on how using retard's views of "racism" might or might not apply to those of us that don't use those terms in the same way?

Jesus fucking Christ. You guys are LARPING as Replicants giving yourselves the Voight-Kampff Test and trying to suss out who is real.

The turtle is still on its back, struggling to right itself. Why aren't you helping the turtle right itself, tenbones? /adjusts camera focus

I heard the turtle say, "cowabunga". So did tenbones.

I concur with tenbones that trying to label things as "racist" or not, or debating its meaning, is pointless. Particularly in this forum, though, there are some specific gaming topics that are handled, like

1) Ability modifiers and/or templates for fantasy races
2) Non-monolithic fantasy creatures
3) What types of creatures are enemies of the PCs

These are concrete game issues that aren't necessarily part of woke gamers.

Quote from: Stephen Tannhauser on August 29, 2023, 04:29:19 PM

Quote from: jhkim on August 29, 2023, 02:13:48 PMNon-monolithic species aren't useless fluff, though. The entries on dragons in D&D, say, isn't useless fluff - never mind the various human entry types.

Granted, and you're right. But my point is that if every possible antagonist gets the detail of dragons in the Monster Manual, or trolls in Trollpak, and you try to cram all that into a single product, you wind up with a sourcebook either physically unproduceable for size or impractical to use for volume.

One can just have fewer types of antagonists, which is fine since with detail those antagonists can be just as varied. One can have a great game with only humans as antagonists. Or with only humans or dragons as antagonists. For example, I ran a long fantasy campaign based on the "Temeraire" novels where there were only humans and dragons in the setting.

Quote from: Brad on August 24, 2023, 09:06:35 PM
Does that girl fuck horses?

Was this question ever answered one way or another? Literally the only thing that actually matters.

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Quote from: Krazz on August 28, 2023, 01:32:10 PM

Quote from: Scooter on August 28, 2023, 09:10:59 AM

Quote from: Krazz on August 28, 2023, 04:29:19 AM

Quote from: Scooter on August 27, 2023, 09:49:01 PM
Saying that Japanese average higher IQ than a Europeans is both racist AND true.

How is that racist? Have the Left changed the definition again this week?

sigh.  Here is the actual definition of racism from The Oxford Dictionary of the English Language: racism, The theory that distinctive human characteristics and abilities are determined by race.

The left thinks that saying I hate [race] is a racist statement. It isn't.  It might be bigoted but it isn't racist.

Saying the Japanese have higher average IQ than Europeans isn't the same as saying that their IQ is determined by their race.

YOU should rent an IQ before responding.  "Japanese" IS the race in the sentence I wrote.

Rather than resorting to insults, why not just admit that you're clearly vastly out of your depth with logic? OK, let me break it down into chunks small enough for you can understand. I did explain this in my prior post, but you appear not to have groked that.

1) Yes, the Japanese are a race
2) Yes, they have higher average IQ than Europeans
3) Correlation does not imply causation

Why do Japanese have higher IQ? Here are two possible explanations (there may be more):

a) Because of their race. They have better genes for IQ
b) Because of Japan's culture and education system

If somebody made claim (a) then it would be racist, according to the obscure definition you've dredged up. If you claimed it was because of (b), that wouldn't be racist. And if you claim neither (a) nor (b), then that's not racist.

Let's check your original claim:

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Saying that Japanese average higher IQ than a Europeans is both racist AND true.

There's no claim of why there's a difference, so no suggestion that the difference is due to race, so the statement isn't racist and you've wasted everybody's time over the last few pages spouting nonsense.

Quote from: tenbones on August 30, 2023, 01:09:26 PM
Can this thread get more stupid?

We're debating on how using retard's views of "racism" might or might not apply to those of us that don't use those terms in the same way?

Jesus fucking Christ. You guys are LARPING as Replicants giving yourselves the Voight-Kampff Test and trying to suss out who is real.

As the OP I am thoroughly enjoying it. Everyone here has passed the Voight-Kampff Test.

We share a hobby with horsefucking troons.

Lovely.

BTW, I love 'racism' in settings - especially fun when you play up the animosity between various monster groups.

It's even fun among PCs! My dwarf cleric just feels bad for human miners. It's like watching toddlers dig holes. And don't get me started on human "craftsmanship" or when they talk about "this is really old".