Quote from: Mistwell;1038782Thoughts on Sean Patrick Fannon? I seem to recall he led a cavalry charge to string you up (not sure if it was over Gamergate or another controversy) and now he's facing his own challenges, but still insistent you're evil incarnate or at least much worse than him in some fashion.

We talked about this extensively in Episode 1 of Inappropriate Characters!

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Mostly that its an interesting world with unusual social dynamics and content that go unexplored, largely, in other games. Norman's love of antiquity and philosophy also lead to some really interesting and well-executed worldbuilding.

Think of the Barsoom books, with some really cool political intrigues and some wild meta-intrigues, with the social paradigm Gor is known for included. The same sort of fun adventure, but with a greater plot going on around it. The Barsoom books have some of this, but the politics seem more played down in the Barsoom books, while they're more interesting in the Gor books.

I've never been a huge fan of either.

Ironically, even though I was definitely the most 'nerdy' of the family, and the only one of my siblings who consistently read fantasy books, it was my younger sister who read Gor books. I suspect there's way more women who read Gor books than people think.

Read some "Romance" novels sometime; they are pretty much porn for women.

Quote from: Tod13;1039401Think of the Barsoom books, with some really cool political intrigues and some wild meta-intrigues, with the social paradigm Gor is known for included. The same sort of fun adventure, but with a greater plot going on around it. The Barsoom books have some of this, but the politics seem more played down in the Barsoom books, while they're more interesting in the Gor books.

Agreed. The early books deal with the Priest-Kings (who actually have a similar plot in some ways to Barsoom's goddess Issus, I think) but then move onto the Kurii plotline. Some good material in there, if one can look past the whole slavery and sex parts.

I kind of wish someone could issue a "cleaned up" version of the Gor books. If one can see through the superficial stuff, there is some really good storytelling in some of the books.

Quote from: finarvyn;1040030Agreed. The early books deal with the Priest-Kings (who actually have a similar plot in some ways to Barsoom's goddess Issus, I think) but then move onto the Kurii plotline. Some good material in there, if one can look past the whole slavery and sex parts.

I kind of wish someone could issue a "cleaned up" version of the Gor books. If one can see through the superficial stuff, there is some really good storytelling in some of the books.

I'd settle for a version without the 2-3 pages of rationalization that is copy-and-pasted into every book. The world building and story telling is so good though.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1039996I've never been a huge fan of either.

Ironically, even though I was definitely the most 'nerdy' of the family, and the only one of my siblings who consistently read fantasy books, it was my younger sister who read Gor books. I suspect there's way more women who read Gor books than people think.

If I'd read Tarzan first, I probably would have never read the Barsoom books. For me, the Barsoom books are fun adventures without any slow parts or stuff that needs to be skipped. Parts of the Tarzan books are fun, but I feel like I have to plod through the other parts to get to that.

Weirdly enough, I originally read the Gor books for the same reason I read Nietzsche. To see for myself what they were about. (Same reason I tried attending the opera and ballet. LOL) At least with the Gor books, I didn't have to research translations. (For Nietzsche, Walter Kaufmann is the translator you want. He isn't political--he just wants the Old German translated properly.)

If one aspires to write or create worlds, I suggest the Gor books just to see how well it is done, assuming you can get past the slavery stuff.

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I thought this was fantastic. Some of the other stuff you did I think is garbage. Just like pretty much every other designer...

Serious question: why do people dislike you? Everything I've seen on forums tends to indicate you're reasonable, even if I disagree with what you're saying.

Well, yeah. I think GOR was probably popular with some women for the same reason 50 Shades of Grey is popular with some women.