D&D Next vs Pathfinder

Halloween Jack · April 26, 2012, 09:06:23 AM

Quote from: Orpheo;534030To be fair, and I'm only going to make this one post on this particular PF/4E issue, as someone who quit 4E and took up Pathfinder I would argue that I definitely see elements of Pathfinder that could be inspired by elements of 4E. Not so much in the core, more in the subsequent splat books. The new combat maneouvres in the APG that cause forced movement, for instance. I know about Bullrush and all that, but the maneouvres introduced in the APG expand forced movement to a similar range to 4E. The rules are definitely 3.5 though, complete with attacks of opportunity to deter you from actually doing them.

Pretty much that, yeah.

Quote from: James Gillen;534033Not to mention the fact that anything that does 4W sure as hell ain't gonna be an At-Will power.

JG

Definitely not. 4e instead gives you at-wills that scale to 2[W] at high level, and after that you rely on your encounter powers. But 4e and Pathfinder could never have straight-across comparisons in weapon damage, because 4e doesn't stick its foot in the cowpie of iterative attacks. (Instead, it sticks its foot in the cowpie of too many static mods to juggle, and assuming feat taxes and charge/combat advantage to achieve a reliable to-hit rate.)

jeff37923 · April 26, 2012, 10:48:28 AM

Quote from: Halloween Jack-Off;534084Fap. Fap. Fap.

:rolleyes:

Koltar · April 26, 2012, 03:00:33 PM

In many ways it won't really be a " VS " situation between the two.

Both games will feature adventurers going into strange places on a quest or looking for 'loot' - in a variety of places like 'dungeons', haunted forests, ruins of past civilizations ..etc.

PAIZO will still win the 'PR Battle' tho - because their maps will work with both game systems, the same with their pre-painted minis for PATHFINDER. The miniatures are the same scale as D&D has traditionally used.

- Ed C.

B.T. · April 26, 2012, 06:22:28 PM

Quote from: Halloween Jack;534018If Paizo was outright copying 4e, their design wouldn't suck shit through a hose.

I think the new animal companion system is very good. The revamped paladin is good also. Unfortunately, the quality of Paizo mechanics vary...considerably even within a book.

Marleycat · April 26, 2012, 08:09:37 PM

Quote from: B.T.;534276I think the new animal companion system is very good. The revamped paladin is good also. Unfortunately, the quality of Paizo mechanics vary...considerably even within a book.

That's true I think that the one thing Wotc has going for it is that once they work the kinks out they build mechanically solid games. 4e is a example of this. Problem is it's a mini's skirmish game not a traditional rpg.

D&D Next vs Pathfinder

Halloween Jack

jeff37923

Koltar

B.T.

Marleycat