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How Many WotC Official Products Do You Buy?

Started by AtomicPope, March 24, 2022, 08:30:09 PM

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AtomicPope

I am/was cautious D&D collector, I will buy something mediocre because it's official D&D.  I stopped doing that in 3e because I feel the bar for mediocrity lowered.  I own more 4e products than 3e, despite playing more 3e.  Whatever can be said about 4e, and a lot can be, I can say the writing was better than during the 3e era.  For me this is not an Edition War™ but a trend in WotC products.  I own most of the 5e official products because most of them are at least are low-bar mediocre.  But recently, they've been releasing really bad products and I find myself waiting to buy them so I can read them off the shelf and see if it's worth the investment.  If I can't see myself using it, I can't bring myself to buy it.  Sadly, I purchased Strixhaven because after reading and discussing the Unearthed Arcana articles I was excited for the direction they were going with subclasses and roleplaying mechanics.  Instead, they ditched that for something completely different and lazily hand out free stuff that's not usable anywhere else because it's "optional" power creep.  I can't stress enough how bad the student mechanics are for the game.  The entire experience has left me cautious so I'm dropping from a 75% buyer to a 50%.  Right now I'm leaning away from buying Radiant Citadel.  Why?  I know there's great writing in Planescape from the past that I'd rather continue using, and Tales from the Yawning Portal is a good conversion with some improvements (I like Sunless Citadel more in that than the original and the original is very good).  Radiant Citadel doesn't seem to offer anything that hasn't been done before, and we know was done well.


Edit: if you vote say why.  I'm curious to know where people are coming from with their nuDnD experiences.

jeff37923

None.

I have not bought a single official WotC product since 4E came out and that dog turd went straight to the used book store after reading it.
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Krugus

Last DnD product I bought for myself was AD&D 2e and that was MANY years ago.,

I bought my youngest son a few years ago the PH, DMG and MM for 5e, he still plays with his friends, but I've been showing home the old B/X stuff I have, then the rest of the gaming group started talking about the old days so now I'm about to kill some characters run some old B/X OSR!
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Hakdov

I've bought very few books from wotc since 4e came out and have gotten rid of almost all of them.  The only thing they have published in the past 20 years that's worth keeping is the Art & Arcana book - which a 3rd party actually wrote for them. 

Mishihari

#4
The last WotC product I bought was the 5E PHB, and before that the 4E core books.

Steven Mitchell

Bought and will buy are two very different answers.  I bought a fair amount of 3E stuff, the basics for the 4E stuff, the 3 core 5E books + starter set, and then 3 5E supplements.  I regret all 3 of those last purchases, even before WotC went off the woke deep end.  Quality of the content was not good.  So I was already on my way out when they put the final nails in. 

In some hypothetical future where some other company owns the D&D license and/or all the current WotC employees no longer have the slightest say in anything D&D, I might buy again.  Might.

GeekyBugle

Zero, zilch, nada, I'm not into giving my hard earned pesos to people that hate me.
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palaeomerus

I bought the 5th DMG, MM, and PG all used. Don't use them much. I think they were later printings. A rat chewed up the MM a little bit on the edges out in the garage on my utility shelving.
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Shasarak

The last WotC product I brought was Waterdeep before the end times.
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HappyDaze

I bought quite a bit up until Tasha's Crock of Excrement turned me off on 5e for good. Now I don't even pay attention to D&D other than when new shit gets talked about here.

Arkansan

I bought the 5e core books and two of the early adventure books, Princes of the Apocalypse and Out of the Abyss. That's the last of my money I've given to WotC and the last I intend to.

Omega

My WOTC  material consists off...

4e D&D Gamma World: If you want to see 4e done right and Gamma World done wrong. This is it. A disaster epic appropriate for the setting. Such as it is on this version.
5e D&D core books: PHB DMG MM: Its a pretty good system but it has glaring flaws. Most can be either easily fixed or just ignored, or use the options in the DMG.
5e Boxed Sets: Basic and Essentials: Basic is a little too basic. But Essentials does a fair job of it.
5e D&D Expansions: Sword Coast, Xanithar, Mordenkainen, Volo, Tasha: These are all pretty good and add this or that to the game. Some are more monster focused and others more class focused.
5e D&D Settings: Sword Coast, Eberron: Both of these for me were rather weak as they did not really tell me alot about the places and world. More like updates in Sword Coasts case.
5e D&D Modues: Hoard+Rise, Saltmarsh, Strahd, Avernus, Witchlight, Tomb: I DMed the two Tiamat campaign modules and had alot of fun. Definitly better if you discard the rails as its a very railroady set in the worst ways. Strahd is not bad. Just ignore Weiss and Hickmans virtue signalling at the start. Tomb is interesting but a bit too open in a way considering the dire situation. I plan to DM this soon. Witchlight I am still puzzling over. Avernus in no way lived up to the road warrior hype. Very let down on that part. Saltmarsh have not gotten much chance to look at yet.

Witchlight will probably be the last WOTC product I buy. I stopped playtesting or giving them money after the way they acted on Drive-thru in treating older works. And pretty much have cut them off totally after they went into full dive outrage marketing exploiting minorities and the handicapped on top of deceptive marketing as well.

It was fun while it lasted. But like playing Neverwinter Online. Im done with being lied to and fucked with.

S'mon

#12
I try to avoid buying WoTC stuff now. I've avoided the campaigns/adventures since Dragon Heist (didn't buy), but I was fooled into buying the very mediocre Fizban's Treasury of Dragons by people telling me it was 'old school'. At full price from Blackwells bookshop that was a painful mistake.
I didn't want to buy Tasha's but I have to deal with it being integrated into the e-tools my players used, and I allowed it for one campaign so when I saw it new on amazon for £13 I bought it. At that price I don't particularly regret it.

I voted 25% as that seems to be my current purchase rate, but it may be closer to 0% going forward. The last WoTC* product I bought that I was really happy with was Xanathar's. Conversely I'm happy with at least 2/3 of the Kobold Press 5e stuff I buy, so I generally look to them these days.

*I do buy old TSR stuff from Drivethru, which WoTC makes money from of course.
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jhkim

Quote from: AtomicPope on March 24, 2022, 08:30:09 PM
I am/was cautious D&D collector, I will buy something mediocre because it's official D&D.
Quote from: AtomicPope on March 24, 2022, 08:30:09 PM
The entire experience has left me cautious so I'm dropping from a 75% buyer to a 50%.  Right now I'm leaning away from buying Radiant Citadel.  Why?  I know there's great writing in Planescape from the past that I'd rather continue using, and Tales from the Yawning Portal is a good conversion with some improvements (I like Sunless Citadel more in that than the original and the original is very good).  Radiant Citadel doesn't seem to offer anything that hasn't been done before, and we know was done well.

I understand that you're a collector - but I think to most people, anything over 25% is a huge amount. Personally, I'm not a collector - I buy books mainly if I think I'll actually use them in a game. So for virtually any company, I'm less than 25%. That's true even if I enjoy the game line. I own three different editions of Call of Cthulhu and a score of modules, but that is far less than 25% of Chaosium's output.

I'm running a 5E campaign now, but that means that I'm unlikely to buy new setting books or adventure books, since it's unlikely for them to fit in my existing campaign.

Ratman_tf

I bought the 5th ed core books for my brother with his money. Does that count?

I bought a bit of 4th edition, especially all of the Dark Sun for that edition.

Haven't bought any 5th ed for myself.

So I put 'rarely'.
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