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How great of a threat is AI RPG content in the near term, to human creators?

Started by Jam The MF, December 28, 2023, 05:33:34 PM

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BadApple

One thing AI is good at and I wish developers would do is test a new system and workout the kinks.  I've looked at a few broken systems in my reviews now that could have been caught and fixed with testing.
>Blade Runner RPG
Terrible idea, overwhelming majority of ttrpg players can't pass Voight-Kampff test.
    - Anonymous

Omega

Quote from: jeff37923 on January 07, 2024, 06:21:44 PM
Quote from: Omega on January 05, 2024, 11:52:20 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on December 28, 2023, 10:57:42 PMslander of his own writers (like Harlan Ellison)

Ellison was a crook in his own right and took awards and payments for other peoples works. He also stole plots from other older writers and then made a business of suing people for ideas that were never his.

I knew a few writers and they had nothing good to say of Ellison other than he was good at being a fraud and getting away with it.

Phoenix Without Ashes was the first heard of it. Later came across an old pulp with pretty much the same premise as Soldier. Theres been other mentions before. Ellison had a long long rep for being difficult to work with.

Got any proof of your claim?

Omega

Oh this just keeps getting better.

I boot up the computer today and the loading screen has a fucking advertisement for ChatGPT.

THE_Leopold

Quote from: JeremyR on January 07, 2024, 04:56:27 PM

Back in the d20 heyday Avalanche Press got a lot of attention for their covers of scantily clad women, and a large number were basically from Playboy, but with clothes changed and such

this is the first i heard of that. Any proof or links to sause?
NKL4Lyfe

Omega

Quote from: THE_Leopold on January 09, 2024, 11:06:12 AM
Quote from: JeremyR on January 07, 2024, 04:56:27 PM

Back in the d20 heyday Avalanche Press got a lot of attention for their covers of scantily clad women, and a large number were basically from Playboy, but with clothes changed and such

this is the first i heard of that. Any proof or links to sause?

They arent. But like one of the TSR artists, they heavily used live models and photos as their base. I have never heard any uproar over ut in the RPG side. But over on BGG it got called out for having "nudity" on the covers. Because god forbid anyone ever show any skin ever.

jeff37923

Quote from: Omega on January 09, 2024, 11:03:12 AM
Quote from: jeff37923 on January 07, 2024, 06:21:44 PM
Quote from: Omega on January 05, 2024, 11:52:20 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on December 28, 2023, 10:57:42 PMslander of his own writers (like Harlan Ellison)

Ellison was a crook in his own right and took awards and payments for other peoples works. He also stole plots from other older writers and then made a business of suing people for ideas that were never his.

I knew a few writers and they had nothing good to say of Ellison other than he was good at being a fraud and getting away with it.

Phoenix Without Ashes was the first heard of it. Later came across an old pulp with pretty much the same premise as Soldier. Theres been other mentions before. Ellison had a long long rep for being difficult to work with.

Got any proof of your claim?

Phoenix Without Ashes was the pilot for The Starlost whose misadventure is chronicled in the article, "Somehow, I Don't Think we're in Kansas, Toto" written by Harlan Ellison. It is a pretty enlightening read.

Harlan Ellison vs James Cameron's The Terminator:





Did Roddenberry slander Ellison over City on the Edge of Forever?

https://harlanellison.com/review/forever.htm

https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/10916/how-did-the-original-and-final-city-on-the-edge-of-forever-scripts-differ

https://them0vieblog.com/2013/05/29/star-trek-the-city-on-the-edge-of-forever-by-harlan-ellisoncordwainer-bird-review/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlan_Ellison

Roddenberry tried to cancel Harlan Ellison while profiting off of the work he did with "City on the Edge of Forever". The Great Bird of the Galaxy was known for this kind of shady shit and would encourage trekkies to try and drown out any detractors of what he considered "his" work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Roddenberry

Quote from: wikipedia article on Gene Roddenberry
Roddenberry often rewrote submitted scripts, although he did not always take credit for these.[72] Roddenberry and Ellison fell out over "The City on the Edge of Forever" after Roddenberry rewrote Ellison's script to make it both financially feasible to film and usable for the series context.[73] Even his close friend Don Ingalls had his script for "A Private Little War" altered drastically,[72] and as a result, Ingalls declared that he would only be credited under the pseudonym "Jud Crucis" (a play on "Jesus Christ"), claiming he had been crucified by the process.[74] Roddenberry's work rewriting "The Menagerie", based on footage originally shot for "The Cage", resulted in a Writers Guild arbitration board hearing. The Guild ruled in his favor over John D. F. Black, the complainant.[75] The script won a Hugo Award, but the awards board neglected to inform Roddenberry, who found out through correspondence with Asimov.[76]

Roddenberry was involved in creating the television series Star Trek: The Next Generation, which premiered with "Encounter at Farpoint" on September 28, 1987.[127] He was given a bonus of $1 million in addition to a salary to produce the series, and celebrated by purchasing a new Rolls-Royce for $100,000.[128] The arrangement did not entitle him to be executive producer of the series. Paramount was already concerned about the original cast not returning, and fearing fan reaction if Roddenberry was not involved, agreed to his demand for control of the show.[129] Roddenberry rewrote the series bible from an original version by David Gerrold, who had previously written The Original Series episode "The Trouble with Tribbles", and The Animated Series follow-up, "More Tribbles, More Troubles".[130]

Although commercially successful from its inception, the series was initially marred by Writers Guild of America grievances from Fontana and Gerrold, both of whom left the series in acrimonious circumstances;[133] frequent turnover among the writing staff (24 staff writers left the show during its first three seasons, triple the average attrition rate for such series);[134] and allegations that Roddenberry attorney Leonard Maizlish had become the producer's "point man and proxy",[133] ghostwriting memos, sitting in on meetings, and contributing to scripts despite not being on staff.[135] Writer Tracy Tormé described the first few seasons of The Next Generation under Roddenberry as an "insane asylum".[136]


"Meh."

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Omega on January 09, 2024, 11:04:30 AM
Oh this just keeps getting better.

I boot up the computer today and the loading screen has a fucking advertisement for ChatGPT.

Switch to Linux, we don't get any of that bullshit
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