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How do you rule bee/wasp stings?

Started by Neoplatonist1, September 07, 2024, 11:21:32 PM

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Neoplatonist1

Phoenix Command could model this as 1 Shock Point per sting.

So, if you're being stung 10 times per 2-second Phase, you get 10 SP. That's enough to cow the average civilian, but not a crack soldier, who could theoretically keep fighting until just covered by them.

Is your system granular enough to model stings, or are your characters immune to them?

Mishihari

In my system I'd probably model these as pain poison, each one gives -1 to all skill checks until it wears off.  It won't actually cause damage, but take enough and you'll be helpless and immobile for a while.

Omega

Quote from: Mishihari on September 08, 2024, 01:54:39 AMIt won't actually cause damage, but take enough and you'll be helpless and immobile for a while.

A single one almost certainly not. But dozens?

Chris24601

Quote from: Omega on September 09, 2024, 11:16:26 PM
Quote from: Mishihari on September 08, 2024, 01:54:39 AMIt won't actually cause damage, but take enough and you'll be helpless and immobile for a while.

A single one almost certainly not. But dozens?

Depends a LOT on the individual.

A full grown male friend of mine would be in the hospital from one sting.

When I was two years old I stepped on a hive and got over 40 stings. Other than the stings hurting, I was fine (my Mom about had a heart attack though). I was fine two days later.

For a few stings, I'd rank it an annoyance for most adventurers; something you maybe bring up as flavor text, but has no mechanical effects.

For a hive's worth of stings, I'd probably have some sort of distraction-related penalty to checks.

If the character was notably allergic to bees or vulnerable to toxins; I'd make the effects severe to life-threatening depending on the specifics.

Neoplatonist1

Quote from: Chris24601 on September 10, 2024, 04:27:48 PMDepends a LOT on the individual.

A full grown male friend of mine would be in the hospital from one sting.

When I was two years old I stepped on a hive and got over 40 stings. Other than the stings hurting, I was fine (my Mom about had a heart attack though). I was fine two days later.

For a few stings, I'd rank it an annoyance for most adventurers; something you maybe bring up as flavor text, but has no mechanical effects.

For a hive's worth of stings, I'd probably have some sort of distraction-related penalty to checks.

If the character was notably allergic to bees or vulnerable to toxins; I'd make the effects severe to life-threatening depending on the specifics.

What do you do as a GM when the characters who aren't allergic decide to carry around a wasp's nest everywhere they go to show how tough they are?

Steven Mitchell

Quote from: Neoplatonist1 on September 11, 2024, 06:47:47 PMWhat do you do as a GM when the characters who aren't allergic decide to carry around a wasp's nest everywhere they go to show how tough they are?

Same thing I'd do with any stupid rule tricks:  Rule on the situation, using the rules as a guideline.

As for this specific case, have you ever been stung by a wasp, hornet, yellow jacket, or bumble bee while trying to do something else?  I've been stung multiple times by all four.  While it doesn't do any lasting damage if you are not allergic, it hurts, enough to be extremely distracting.  I'd hate to get stung when I was, for example, needing to pay attention while something was sneaking up on me to stab me in the back. 

So yeah, if you've got a trap of something like a hornet's nest, then the problem is not the nest.  The problem is that you've got a big minus to detect what the people who set the trap are about to do to you.

Socratic-DM

I run a concept in my game called System-Shock, take more than half your HP in a single turn and you have to make a saving throw to not be stunned for 1d4 turns.

I'd probably apply this for Bee Stings, they can take a number of wasp/bee stings equal to their CON score before needing to take system shock, if they fail they also take 1 point of real damage.

I've been attacked by a group of bees before, it sucks.
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