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Title: Honor Harrington RPG?
Post by: Dominus Nox on October 04, 2006, 02:57:50 AM
 Will there be an Honor Harrington RPG and space combat game? God I hope so.
Title: Honor Harrington RPG?
Post by: Settembrini on October 04, 2006, 03:04:37 AM
Sadly QLI seems to have dropped the project.

http://www.travellerrpg.com/cgi-bin/Trav/CotI/Discuss/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=55;t=000025;p=1#000001
Title: Honor Harrington RPG?
Post by: Dominus Nox on October 04, 2006, 03:28:25 AM
Bummer.

But thanks for the info.
Title: Honor Harrington RPG?
Post by: Settembrini on October 04, 2006, 03:31:32 AM
Is there a reason why you write in red?
Title: Honor Harrington RPG?
Post by: Dominus Nox on October 04, 2006, 03:33:06 AM
Quote from: SettembriniIs there a reason why you write in red?

 Yes, to mock the goderators at rpg.net.                                          
Title: Honor Harrington RPG?
Post by: Settembrini on October 04, 2006, 03:35:42 AM
This I can sympathize with.
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Post by: mattormeg on October 04, 2006, 08:24:45 AM
Aye, let's all do it together:

THIS IS MY MOD VOICE!

THIS IS MY MOD VOICE!

THIS IS MY MOD VOICE!
Title: Honor Harrington RPG?
Post by: Balbinus on October 04, 2006, 08:30:14 AM
This is fucking silly.  It's annoying to read and I sincerely doubt the mods there know or care.
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Post by: ColonelHardisson on October 04, 2006, 09:08:33 AM
Quote from: SettembriniThis I can sympathize with.

Settembrini, remember how you said you didn't want Nuthkinlanders to use their inside jokes here at the RPG Site? Well, I'd rather RPG.net crap didn't get brought here either. I'm not, and never have been, a RPG.net regular, so such stuff leaves me on the outside, which was the problem you had with the Nutkinland stuff.

Anyway.

I wonder why the Honor Harrington RPG isn't going forward? They're not overwhelming us with details there, are they?

There is a starship combat game for the setting. It's the Saganami Island Tactical Simulator. Go to Star Ranger's Starship Combat News for all your space combat news: http://www.star-ranger.com/SITS.htm
Title: Honor Harrington RPG?
Post by: Bagpuss on October 04, 2006, 09:50:08 AM
Perhaps because the space combat game already exists so there is an issue with publishing rights to games based on the setting?
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Post by: jrients on October 04, 2006, 09:52:29 AM
QuoteI wonder why the Honor Harrington RPG isn't going forward? They're not overwhelming us with details there, are they?

Here's what I heard: The license was up for renewal.  Hunter realized that he had spent a pile of cash on the first licensing deal and got no product out the door.  So he opted not to throw good money after bad.
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Post by: ColonelHardisson on October 04, 2006, 10:02:53 AM
Quote from: jrientsHere's what I heard: The license was up for renewal.  Hunter realized that he had spent a pile of cash on the first licensing deal and got no product out the door.  So he opted not to throw good money after bad.

That's a sensible decision.

Anyway, it'd be nice to see a RPG for the Honorverse. For universal systems, this would necessitate just a sourcebook. I'm thinking of GURPS and d20. Matter of fact, d20 Modern, coupled with the d20 Future supplement, seems to already have most of what you'd need to play such a game mechanically, so a book detailing the setting would be just about all you need there. GURPS is pretty much the same way. The only thing either would really have to bear down on is space combat. There is no getting around that space combat is the essential element of the Honorverse. Lovingly detailed, page upon page of space combat. Any RPG based on the setting would have to address this right in the game. It would have to be detailed, but not so detailed that it becomes a case of just playing a game like SITS with some character flavor tossed in. Maybe just use SITS, but include a copy of just the rules with the RPG (I think the reason SITS is so expensive is because of the minis) and include counters for the ships, as well as rules tying the PCs into the ship combat.
Title: Honor Harrington RPG?
Post by: Settembrini on October 04, 2006, 10:17:02 AM
QuoteSettembrini, remember how you said you didn't want Nuthkinlanders to use their inside jokes here at the RPG Site?

Well, I didn't star posting all in red, did I? But I see you don`t want me to encourage anybody. And that`s sensible.
Anger is a huge motivator, though and sometimes it`s good to fuel the fire to keep everybody moving. Elsewise we could all stop posting, as this is all just a pastime. As said earlier, I like the emperor naked. Being childish is part of the fun. If that took intarweb fun away from you: sorry.
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Post by: ColonelHardisson on October 04, 2006, 10:20:01 AM
Quote from: SettembriniBeing childish is part of the fun. If that took intarweb fun away from you: sorry.

Not to derail the thread, but I appreciate what you're saying. As I recall, you were irritated enough by the Nutkinland inside jokes and references to say something about it. I accepted it and have kept such stuff to a minimum. So that's why it's a bit galling to keep seeing RPG.net arguments popping up here.
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Post by: Settembrini on October 04, 2006, 10:23:17 AM
QuoteI accepted it and have kept such stuff to a minimum.

I see. Double standard and all. You have a point there.
Take this as my "I hate them evil Mods" for this month.
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Post by: Vellorian on October 04, 2006, 01:31:49 PM
Quote from: ColonelHardissonI'd rather RPG.net crap didn't get brought here either.

Sorry to continue the threadcrap, but I have to comment:

The Site That Shall Not Be Named is little more then a giant popularity clique of geeks.  Talking about them only makes them feel important.  Whether you say good things or bad does not matter.  It is my contention never to discuss them again (after this explanation).  

I strongly suggest that everyone take that same stance.  Anything less only serves to throw gasoline on their fire.
Title: Honor Harrington RPG?
Post by: Zachary The First on October 05, 2006, 03:49:44 AM
I'd love to see just a solid, system-generic Honorverse sourcebook. I'm thinking I'd run it with GURPS all the way--or its possible you could tweak one of the incarnations of Traveller to work, but don't ask me which one.  StarCluster 2 might work as well.
Title: Honor Harrington RPG?
Post by: Bagpuss on October 05, 2006, 04:06:17 AM
Okay I'm going to ask the obvious question....

Who or what is Honor Harrington?
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Post by: Zachary The First on October 05, 2006, 04:23:04 AM
From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_Harrington):
 
QuoteHonor Stephanie Harrington is a fictional character (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictional_character), the eponymous (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eponym) heroine of a series of science fiction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction) books set in the "Honorverse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorverse)", written by David Weber (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Weber) and published by Baen Books (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baen_Books).
An officer in the Royal Manticoran Navy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Manticoran_Navy), the space navy of the Star Kingdom of Manticore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Kingdom_of_Manticore), Harrington bears a striking professional resemblance to both the real life Admiral Lord Nelson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatio_Nelson%2C_1st_Viscount_Nelson), Captain Thomas Cochrane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cochrane), and the fictional (composite) character Horatio Hornblower (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatio_Hornblower). Like Nelson, she loses an eye and an arm in combat; her initials are the same as Hornblower's, and like all three officers, she has a genius for tactical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_tactics) command throughout the series and becomes a living legend by using those skills in several major engagements—battles for which the press dubs her The Salamander—for always seeming to be "where the fire is hottest". By the tenth main-line novel (Ashes of Victory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashes_of_Victory)) Honor has emerged as a strategist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_strategy) of note as well, and has been promoted to Admiral in both the Manticoran and Grayson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grayson_%28Honorverse%29) space navies.
Other parallels with real history include the political situation. During much of Harrington's career her native Star Kingdom of Manticore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Kingdom_of_Manticore) is at war with the neighboring People's Republic of Haven (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_Haven), a conflict that bears more than passing resemblance to the antagonism between the British Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire) and France (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France) during the Napoleonic Wars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleonic_Wars). Last but not least, Weber references the author of Hornblower (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Scott_Forester) within the series on at least one occasion, a minor instance of "breaking the fourth wall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_wall)", as an homage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage).

 
I think of it like Horatio Hornblower...in Spaaaace!  However, some of the chracters are a little 2-D, but the battle scenes, new tech development, and strategy are a blast to read.[/B]
Title: Honor Harrington RPG?
Post by: Settembrini on October 05, 2006, 05:05:13 AM
Does anybody know  Nick Seafort?
Title: Honor Harrington RPG?
Post by: Sosthenes on October 05, 2006, 05:10:50 AM
Sounds like there's bound to be some Honor Harrington/Richard Sharpe fan fiction out there...
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Post by: Bagpuss on October 05, 2006, 06:08:26 AM
I've read the Sharpe series and enjoyed them so do you think I'll enjoy Honor Harrington, if so where should I start?
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Post by: Zachary The First on October 05, 2006, 06:55:53 AM
Quote from: SettembriniDoes anybody know  Nick Seafort?

He was a character in some space fiction, wasn't he? Middy who rose to be a war hero or somesuch?
Title: Honor Harrington RPG?
Post by: Mr. Analytical on October 05, 2006, 07:28:48 AM
Quote from: SosthenesSounds like there's bound to be some Honor Harrington/Richard Sharpe fan fiction out there...

*googles*

*shudders*

Wow... I always took Sharpe to be a top.
Title: Honor Harrington RPG?
Post by: flyingmice on October 05, 2006, 08:46:21 AM
Quote from: Zachary The FirstI'd love to see just a solid, system-generic Honorverse sourcebook. I'm thinking I'd run it with GURPS all the way--or its possible you could tweak one of the incarnations of Traveller to work, but don't ask me which one.  StarCluster 2 might work as well.

What would work well would be StarCluster 2 with an overlay of the In Harm's Way special rules - honor/practicality, voluntary wounding, and the like. The space battle/weapons from StarCluster wouldn't work at all. I'd probably strip them out and replace it with the broadside-based system from IHW, but with funky new names. It would actually be a dead easy kitbash.

-clash
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Post by: ColonelHardisson on October 05, 2006, 09:34:12 AM
Quote from: BagpussI've read the Sharpe series and enjoyed them so do you think I'll enjoy Honor Harrington, if so where should I start?

Pick up "On Basilisk Station." It's the first in the "Honor Harrington" series. If it hooks you, then you'll like the series. If not, you're not likely to enjoy the rest of the series. The series moves chronologically, so we see Honor get older and climb through the ranks, and watch as galactic politics change. She aquires quite a retinue of followers, friends, and family as time goes by, and the backstory becomes more complex. So start at the beginning, which many consider one of the, if not the, best in the series.
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Post by: ColonelHardisson on October 05, 2006, 09:36:51 AM
Quote from: Zachary The FirstI'd love to see just a solid, system-generic Honorverse sourcebook. I'm thinking I'd run it with GURPS all the way--or its possible you could tweak one of the incarnations of Traveller to work, but don't ask me which one.  StarCluster 2 might work as well.

I'd like to see such a sourcebook also. GURPS, Traveller, 2300, and d20 Modern/Future are all good candidates for such a game. For that matter, I'd say Alternity could do the job.
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Post by: Sosthenes on October 05, 2006, 09:49:54 AM
"On Basilisk Station" is freely available from the Baen Free Library (http://www.baen.com/library/), by the way. (bad frame page. Go to Authors / David Weber)

I'll try reading it as soon as my boss is gone ;)
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Post by: ColonelHardisson on October 05, 2006, 09:52:11 AM
Quote from: Sosthenes"On Basilisk Station" is freely available from the Baen Free Library (http://www.baen.com/library/), by the way. (bad frame page. Go to Authors / David Weber)

I'll try reading it as soon as my boss is gone ;)

Yeah, I was forgetting that. Baen also included free CD ROMs with a couple of the more recent hardbacks, that contained all of the HH books for free, as well as many other books by Weber and other authors.
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Post by: Mcrow on October 05, 2006, 10:46:11 AM
Quote from: ColonelHardissonYeah, I was forgetting that. Baen also included free CD ROMs with a couple of the more recent hardbacks, that contained all of the HH books for free, as well as many other books by Weber and other authors.

Yeah, I picked up the Saganami Tactical Simulator boardgame and it cam with a CD with all of the currently printed HH books on it. Pretty sweet deal and a great game.