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Honey Badgers youtube interview with James Desborough

Started by S'mon, February 05, 2015, 03:02:39 AM

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Bradford C. Walker

The Streisand Effect is real, and we are wise to make it work for us.

I think that, on our end, the best thing we can do is to show how traditional tabletop role-playing games are the antidote for all this SocJus cultism crap- and not by deliberately crafting games or campaigns attacking them. No, just by doing what we do when we do it, as if nothing out of the ordinary had ever happened. In other words, by treating them as people like we already do- and letting them benefit or suffer from their own behaviors, just as we do.

Ratman_tf

If someone wants to dislike a game, let's say just to pick a random example, Jame's #gamergate card game. That's fine. I dislike a ton of stuff.
But I think this shows the inevitable politicizing, and the pressures towards RightThink. It was a game that didn't portray GG as evil, baby munching monsters and antis as blameless heroes. And that just can't be borne.

This shit has already been said about the SJW issue. One can't have a discussion about the finer points of morality or responsibility, or freedom with someone who wants to reduce everything down to "muh-soggy-knees!".

One Horse Town, I appreciate that you want to keep the topic on gaming, but I don't think we can ignore the 800lb gorillia in the room when it keeps jumping on the table and beating it's chest when these events go down...
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

Nexus

Quote from: James Gillen;814469A lot of people (namely feminists) ask, "Why do so many intelligent, active women, who wouldn't have their opportunities without feminism, refuse to call themselves feminist?"  Maybe for the same reason that a lot of us who are pro-abortion rights, pro-gay rights and pro-health care refuse to call themselves "liberal."

JG

I know the feeling.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

S'mon

Quote from: Bradford C. Walker;814539No, just by doing what we do when we do it, as if nothing out of the ordinary had ever happened.

Yes, SJWs tend to thrive on opposition as well as capitulation. Being completely ignored is what they really can't stand. Of course when they are deforming the industry by eg getting games banned it may be best to oppose that. But in general the best revenge is living well - accept that there are bad crazy people out there, but don't let their twisted worldview affect your own life.

Spinachcat

Quote from: Bradford C. Walker;814539The Streisand Effect is real, and we are wise to make it work for us.

I had no idea what the Streisand Effect may have been. Here's the link for anyone else who may be confused by the reference.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

Nexus

Has the Honey Badger Brigade ever specifically address rpg.net?
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Warboss Squee

Quote from: Nexus;816226Has the Honey Badger Brigade ever specifically address rpg.net?

Not that I know of. Then again, I don't really know why they would, the site is becoming more and more meaningless as time goes on.

Shipyard Locked

Quote from: Warboss Squee;816227Then again, I don't really know why they would, the site is becoming more and more meaningless as time goes on.

I know we like to say this, but how true is it really? They sure look pretty busy. I don't have the fancy internet skills to really check numbers though.

ZWEIHÄNDER

Quote from: Shipyard Locked;816233I know we like to say this, but how true is it really? They sure look pretty busy. I don't have the fancy internet skills to really check numbers though.

rpg.net stats on Alexa:
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/rpg.net

For comparison, therpgsite.com on Alexa:
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/therpgsite.com

Enworld.org on Alexa
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/enworld.org
No thanks.

Shipyard Locked

#54
Quote from: ZWEIHÄNDER;816234rpg.net stats on Alexa:
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/rpg.net

For comparison, therpgsite.com on Alexa:
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/therpgsite.com

Enworld.org on Alexa
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/enworld.org

Weee, thanks! That's a useful tool right there. :)

Now to make all three look even more irrelevant:

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/community.wizards.com


Seriously though, what the heck happened to rpgnet right after July last year!?

Nexus

Quote from: Shipyard Locked;816236Weee, thanks! That's a useful tool right there. :)

Now to make all three look even more irrelevant:

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/community.wizards.com


Seriously though, what the heck happened to rpgnet right after July last year!?

I can't think of anything but that is a Hell of a drop off.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

One Horse Town

Quote from: Shipyard Locked;816236Seriously though, what the heck happened to rpgnet right after July last year!?

They shat all over 5e and were involved in a campaign against 2 people that Mearls & WotC hired as consultants.

Shipyard Locked

Quote from: One Horse Town;816248They shat all over 5e and were involved in a campaign against 2 people that Mearls & WotC hired as consultants.

Christ, could that mess really have had that much of an impact!?

One Horse Town

Quote from: Shipyard Locked;816252Christ, could that mess really have had that much of an impact!?

Dunno, but the timeline fits.

Will

This forum is great in that the moderators aren\'t jack-booted fascists.

Unfortunately, this forum is filled with total a-holes, including a bunch of rape culture enabling dillholes.

So embracing the \'no X is better than bad X,\' I\'m out of here. If you need to find me I\'m sure you can.