Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Much as the idea that roleplayer flocked to WFRP2e after D&D4e was released appeals to the WFRP fanboy in me, it doesn't make any logical sense.

WFRP2e went out of print before 3e came out. Admittedly, there was probably a spike when GW announced that they were shutting down Black Industries. Dark Heresy certainly jumped in price at that point, until FFG did another print run.

Black Industries didn't even announce they were out of the RPG game until January, 2009.

Those volumes I mentioned jumped in price dramatically the year before - incidentally, that was the year 2008, when D&D4e was published.

Quote from: Blackhand;532935Black Industries didn't even announce they were out of the RPG game until January, 2009.

Wrong, you moron. The closure of Black Industries was announced in January 2008.

Quote from: Dodger;532937Wrong, you moron. The closure of Black Industries was announced in January 2008.

You're right, I'm wrong. 2008, not 2009.  But the year we are looking at is actually 2007, leading up to D&D 4e.

The price jump did happen after D&D 4e was a known factor.  A month after the closure of BI was announced, FFG announced it would be taking it over.  For a lot of normal gamers, this span of time didn't even register as occurring, since the game would ever be totally out of print.

In my experience, those casting off D&D in 2007 and leading up to 2008 did so in favor of either Pathfinder or WFRP 2e.  For the record,  I bought my 2e book in 2006 at Waldenbooks.

The books that had been out of print while BI was still around jumped in price first, late 2007 / 2008.  The only reason this happened is suddenly a lot of people wanted it, when for years before they had ignored it enough to cause it to go out of print and the company label to be closed down.

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Huge grats brother, that would be the second biggest score for me, the first would be if I could find a copy of the Ringworld box set. Color me jealous.

Quote from: Marleycat;532606I am so jealous of all of you.:mad:

You live in an area with no good FLGS?

Quote from: CRKrueger;532979You live in an area with no good FLGS?

One of the lovely things about Denver is the ridiculous number of decent FLGS in the area.

Quote from: CRKrueger;532979You live in an area with no good FLGS?

No, there are a couple I go to but the chances of scoring an RC are next to nothing.  It's hard for to go to used bookstores because of transportation issues.  KCMO doesn't have a good public transit system and area itself is very spread out with alot of the outlying areas where some really good game and book stores not serviced by the transit system. Most of the better game stores are in Kansas outside the Metro area. Or East Independence which is even more spotty.

The RC is almost certainly the RPG book (definitely the D&D rulebook) I've made the most use and reference of in my gaming career.

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Hold the fuck on.  I was in a hurry yesterday and didn't get a chance to look at what Dodger had said.

Quote from: Dodger;532937Wrong, you moron. The closure of Black Industries was announced in January 2008.

Which is a point I ceded, but it's the wrong point.  

What I had meant to say was FFG didn't announce they were closing the WFRP 2e line until January, 2009.  My dates were wrong, but the facts are still real.

Your dates are wrong, your facts are questionable or irrelevant, and your arguments lack both coherence and logic.

You are the weakest link. Goodbye.

Quote from: RPGPundit;533138The RC is almost certainly the RPG book (definitely the D&D rulebook) I've made the most use and reference of in my gaming career.

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It's the total RPG package: all in one manageable book!

Screw triple (!) copies each of the PHB, DMG, and MM.

Quote from: Drohem;533208It's the total RPG package: all in one manageable book!

Screw triple (!) copies each of the PHB, DMG, and MM.

And it has maps and a decent amount of info about a setting (Mystara)!

It's only really missing a bag of dice and some players.

Quote from: Kaz;533223And it has maps and a decent amount of info about a setting (Mystara)!

Great point!  The maps in the back of the book are excellent.  The world maps really bring the world into focus and perspective.

I always found it to be one of the worst possible games around, I sold my Cyclopedia off on Amazon for about $35.00 like 3years ago, I never used it or played it, I always found Races as Classes as stupid.  As far as Mystara, ehhh, the world was ok but nothing to write home about.  I was always an AD&D fan anyway.  BTW, instead of spending tons of money trying to dig up this worthless DnD Cyclopedia, why not just get the Retro-Clone Dark Dungeons, its far cheaper and has everything except Mystara in it anyhow.