I still plan on getting The Legend of Drizzt.  Mostly for the components.

Quote from: TristramEvans;613862I don't think there's that many adolescants posting here.

Or fans of androgynous metro-sexual emos.

Drizz't, the Edward Cullen of Forgotten Realms

Quote from: Sacrosanct;613870Or fans of androgynous metro-sexual emos.

I still dig the "lesbian-stripper-ninja-BDSM fetish fuel", though.

Quote from: Black Vulmea;613786I like elves to be like the pharisees of Three Hearts and Three Lions.

That's a great take too.

JG

Quote from: Bill;613796Are there any Drizzt defenders out there?

Someone must like the character.

I like Drizzt.  And Wolverine.  They're just overexposed.

I also like lesbian-stripper-BDSM-ninjas, but then there's no such thing as overexposed.  

jg

Quote from: James Gillen;614111I like Drizzt.  And Wolverine.  They're just overexposed.

I also like lesbian-stripper-BDSM-ninjas, but then there's no such thing as overexposed.  

jg

I tend to agree with that about Wolverine and Drizzt.

As for female Drow, I tend to view them more as aggressive devious manipulative bondage sadist ninjas.

Not sure they need to be masochistic, lesbian or strippers

At Barnes and Nobles last night, I saw that half a shelf of RPG fiction was full of Drizzt.  How can that guy still be going?  How can an author still find shit for him to do?

Quote from: Patrick;614163At Barnes and Nobles last night, I saw that half a shelf of RPG fiction was full of Drizzt.  How can that guy still be going?  How can an author still find shit for him to do?

I am often curious about how he keeps the series going. I honestly enjoyed the Crystal Shard (and the other Icewindale books) when it came out. It was good fun, and I liked reading something set in a a familiar D&D setting. When they came out, the Drizzt character was a somewhat novel take on Drow, and it worked. For me the problem isn't Drizzt (there is room in ay setting for an exception) but that you had so many players and writiers following suit. I haven't kept up, nor have I gone back and re-read the Icewind Dale books to see if they stand the test of time so no idea where he is with the character now. In interviews with Salvatore, he makes a positive impression on me, and seems a bit like a Steven King type  (in the sense that he knows he is writing to entertain, not produce high art) and I suspect that is part of why the books can keep coming. He just isn't one of these authors that is easy to dislike when you listen to him speak. Obviously enough people are buying them, that he can keep writing. He is also a gamer, continues to play some kind fo variation on 2E, and so I wouldn't be surprised if the books are a bit like a 25 year old campaign at this stage.

I heard he was trapped in a contract to write x number of Drizztastic books.


Or perhaps they sell?



I liked some of his books; Crystal Shard is probably my favorite of his.

Quote from: Bill;614171I heard he was trapped in a contract to write x number of Drizztastic books..

He may be. But that is a good problem to have. He gets a steady paycheck for writing fantasy books. Not many people have that.

Quote from: Patrick;614163At Barnes and Nobles last night, I saw that half a shelf of RPG fiction was full of Drizzt.  How can that guy still be going?  How can an author still find shit for him to do?

Right now he's just written the prelude for the Neverwinter MMO that is coming out, which was 3 books that are supposed to act as a sort of segue between 4e's FR and 5e's FR.  And yes, all three books are very much all about Drizz't


Like Brendan, I enjoyed the Crystal Shard series, but quickly began to get burnt out after the next ones.  I've probably read a dozen books about Drizz't over the years, but managed to avoid the 6 novel (or more) series about Menzoberranazan.  I honestly have no desire to go and read those.

Quote from: Sommerjon;612282Never quite understood this.  The game has this element of competition, but you're not supposed to make the bestest character you can to survive as long as possible?

I would submit that what Pundit is referring to is the friendly competition between the players, using the cunning and skill of the players to play their characters (whether combat optimized or not) well enough to survive to higher levels.

As for Drow, I am still willing to use them, so I would say they are not ruined for me. I would be much more likely to use them as a type of Unseelie Court though, instead of the way they are presented in the games. Nocturnal, not subterranean. As Gollum would put it, "wicked, tricksy, false". I would certainly not have my Drow worshiping a demon, especially a spider one. I would never be willing to allow one as a PC.

The elves in my not quite realised yet setting are very much Seelie/Unseelie Court style, and are like kender-sized elves rather than the more modern take. They don't act like kender, but are short like kender or 3.x halflings. They, dwarves, and goblins are native to their world, where humans, orcs, giants, ogres, etc are not. My elves can be friendly to humans, both Seelie and Unseelie, but can also be quite terrifying. Of course the Unseelie start from a position of hostility, where the Seelies start from a position of benevolent neutrality towards humans. The dwarves have a society much like the Roman Republic, and the goblins are very much like a Warg-riding version of the Mongols in my setting.

Quote from: Sommerjon;612282Never quite understood this.  The game has this element of competition, but you're not supposed to make the bestest character you can to survive as long as possible?

There is a big difference between making a character who is believable and effective, and working the rules like a tax lawyer to squeeze every drop of power out of the system possible. The latter is still a viable way to play the game, but one that most players I meet find disruptive (I actually don't think it is bad, just different). It is the difference between a bit of friendly competition and bloodsport.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;613210Damn.  I can relate.  Only instead of Alien, for me it was John Carpenter's The Thing, about the same age.  I don't know what my dad was thinking.  I do remember my mom getting all pissed off at him

LOL! My childhood movie episode needing to be worked out through therapy was my parents, for some crazy reason, taking me to see The Godfather at the drive-in. To this day the horse head in the bed scene and the toll booth scene both give me the willies

Quote from: James Gillen;613704Which if you're taking from Sidhe rather than Tolkien-Elves, is not inappropriate.

JG

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