Quote from: FingerRod on April 07, 2023, 10:50:20 PMI worry that the 8% has quietly doubled since the start of the big bad orange man.

One thing to keep in mind is that a lot of this comes down to algorithmic manipulation, media brainwashing, state sponsored disinformation and intellectual laziness from the general public. So it's hard to tell how much of this is true believers vs useful idiots vs plain uninformed apolitical default liberal idiots. But it probably looks a lot bigger than it truly is. We're just getting saturated with it cuz of the internet and what we're getting is skewed due to censorship and tampering with dissenting voices to make it look they're fewer than they truly are, while propping up the useful idiots and "authoritative" sources.

Plus a lot of people believe in run of the mill "progressive" values, cuz most people want to be "tolerant" and are against racism or whatever, and full of guilt cuz schools teach them our society is the product of a racist history since they were kids. So if they don't follow WTF is actually going on they're gonna think that they agree with "social justice", cuz why wouldn't they? I mean, it has the word "justice" right there! Are you against "justice"? What are you, some sort of bigot? And that's as far as they think it.

But ask them wether they're OK with their kids being given life altering drugs and medical treatment without their consent, or if they think kids should be taken to drag shows with men shoving their half naked ass on their face, and they'll probably begin to change their tune real quick. Hell, ask them if they think that mixed race people are racist and see how many of them actually agree with WotKKK. I doubt even 10% of the population believe that, but WotKKK have to say they do, cuz they've been captured by the woke mob, so they have to parrot their contradictory upside down world talking points.

Quote from: VisionStorm on April 08, 2023, 01:02:13 AM

Quote from: FingerRod on April 07, 2023, 10:50:20 PMI worry that the 8% has quietly doubled since the start of the big bad orange man.

One thing to keep in mind is that a lot of this comes down to algorithmic manipulation, media brainwashing, state sponsored disinformation and intellectual laziness from the general public. So it's hard to tell how much of this is true believers vs useful idiots vs plain uninformed apolitical default liberal idiots. But it probably looks a lot bigger than it truly is. We're just getting saturated with it cuz of the internet and what we're getting is skewed due to censorship and tampering with dissenting voices to make it look they're fewer than they truly are, while propping up the useful idiots and "authoritative" sources.

Plus a lot of people believe in run of the mill "progressive" values, cuz most people want to be "tolerant" and are against racism or whatever, and full of guilt cuz schools teach them our society is the product of a racist history since they were kids. So if they don't follow WTF is actually going on they're gonna think that they agree with "social justice", cuz why wouldn't they? I mean, it has the word "justice" right there! Are you against "justice"? What are you, some sort of bigot? And that's as far as they think it.

But ask them wether they're OK with their kids being given life altering drugs and medical treatment without their consent, or if they think kids should be taken to drag shows with men shoving their half naked ass on their face, and they'll probably begin to change their tune real quick. Hell, ask them if they think that mixed race people are racist and see how many of them actually agree with WotKKK. I doubt even 10% of the population believe that, but WotKKK have to say they do, cuz they've been captured by the woke mob, so they have to parrot their contradictory upside down world talking points.

One of the main issues I've noticed is that the normies don't want to think about or believe that there are people who actively want them dead for any disagreement they might have with those people. And while I find that naivety incredibly frustrating, I also can't exactly be all that surprised. Most people tend to assume that if they find something abhorrent, everybody else does, too, and they will roll their eyes and basically call you hyperbolic if you try to tell them otherwise. If there was one good thing to come out of covid, it's that a lot of parents who would have told you that you're a fucking idiot if you tried to tell them their kids' teachers were grooming them got to see first-hand that that is exactly what was going on. And of course the lefty response is to double down while saying they're not doing exactly what they're doing, which now has people taking a closer look at what is going on in other things. Like their hobbies. There's still an annoyingly large segment of people insisting that pushing back against woke shit in gaming is unnecessary, but I think more people are starting to realize that the whole "slippery slope is a fallacy" thing is complete bullshit, that it is in fact real, and that it's been affecting things (like gaming) for a long time.

Quote from: Kerstmanneke82 on April 07, 2023, 08:37:35 AM
If mixing races and thus taking a mix of racial abilities is racist, then it is only a matter of time until racial abilities themselves will be considered racist as well. Look at fixed ability increases... Used to be it was a given, not disputed, that the standard Dwarf was tougher than the standard elf, period. Not anymore so. So why wouldn't they, in time, find the fact that as a Dwarf you are more resistant to poison, racist?

It's only a matter of time.

These people having been salami slicing for decades. There's no stopping them because there's too many useful idiots who just passively accept what they're doing and say, "Well, it doesn't affect me directly, so..."

Quote from: GamerforHire on April 07, 2023, 09:58:49 PM
Take back shit language like "mongrels" or you deserve the Nazi label those woke nuts slap on you. There is a line, buddy, and you just walked across it.

I'll just leave this here:

Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 07, 2023, 06:33:28 PM
Grand Wizards of the KKKoast....

You just won the Internet, for today

Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 07, 2023, 06:33:28 PM
Grand Wizards of the KKKoast is propped by Hasbro who in turn is propped by the ESG funds. Which is why they managed to infiltrate the corporations.

This is the best.  That's how I am referencing from WOTC going forward.   A company who wants to get rid of racism, while casually being racist to everyone.

Quote from: GhostNinja on April 09, 2023, 06:11:14 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 07, 2023, 06:33:28 PM
Grand Wizards of the KKKoast is propped by Hasbro who in turn is propped by the ESG funds. Which is why they managed to infiltrate the corporations.

This is the best.  That's how I am referencing from WOTC going forward.   A company who wants to get rid of racism, while casually being racist to everyone.

Quote from: The Spaniard on April 07, 2023, 01:34:11 PM
Just when you think they're out of WTF moments, they come up with this beauty.  The funny thing is, that mutt Crawford doesn't even realize how racist and condescending he is.  Good grief...

Oh wait for the next.

Goblins are really JEWS! This ones going the rounds now.

Now to be fair what wotc is currently going to do is make it so theres no "Half" anything as that word is Wacist!

What they plan is that you can say any PC race is mized heritage. But its still a whatever.

So a Half Elf would now be an elf or a human or whatever. A half orc is now an Orc or whatever. And so on. Reducing it to a background note.

Problem is they plan to go through the older books and edit out half-races too.

Quote from: Wasteland Sniper on April 10, 2023, 01:16:44 AM

Quote from: GhostNinja on April 09, 2023, 06:11:14 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 07, 2023, 06:33:28 PM
Grand Wizards of the KKKoast is propped by Hasbro who in turn is propped by the ESG funds. Which is why they managed to infiltrate the corporations.

This is the best.  That's how I am referencing from WOTC going forward.   A company who wants to get rid of racism, while casually being racist to everyone.

Two things:

1) Great picture
2) I am stealing that picture 

Quote from: Omega on April 10, 2023, 06:19:48 AM

Quote from: The Spaniard on April 07, 2023, 01:34:11 PM
Just when you think they're out of WTF moments, they come up with this beauty.  The funny thing is, that mutt Crawford doesn't even realize how racist and condescending he is.  Good grief...

Oh wait for the next.

Goblins are really JEWS! This ones going the rounds now.

What?  I thought dwarves were jews... this is all so confusing.

Quote from: The Spaniard on April 10, 2023, 09:16:28 AM
What?  I thought dwarves were jews... this is all so confusing.

Of course it is.  With goalposts being shifted and WOTC being run by total idiots we will always be behind the 8 ball.

Quote from: GhostNinja on April 10, 2023, 10:16:48 AM

Quote from: The Spaniard on April 10, 2023, 09:16:28 AM
What?  I thought dwarves were jews... this is all so confusing.

Of course it is.  With goalposts being shifted and WOTC being run by total idiots we will always be behind the 8 ball.

It's hard to have consistent standards when they've never had any to begin with. To them it's a feature not a bug, because it makes it easier to shift the goalposts in order to beat conservatives over the head over anything at any time. It also helps to keep their less zealous fellow wokists from wandering too far off the NPC plantation if they are constantly living under threat of losing every social connection they have for having the gall to question even the most trivial detail of the woke narrative.

Quote from: The Spaniard on April 10, 2023, 09:16:28 AM

Quote from: Omega on April 10, 2023, 06:19:48 AM
Oh wait for the next.

Goblins are really JEWS! This ones going the rounds now.

What?  I thought dwarves were jews... this is all so confusing.

Tolkien was explicit in his letters and interviews that he patterned his dwarves on Jewish people. The language Khuzdul is modeled on Hebrew, and he goes over many points of similarity as he discusses them. Tolkien emphasized their fine metalworking and jewelcraft, their ancient script, and portrays them as warriors and archers in line with Jewish tradition.

However, in adaptations of dwarves after Tolkien, they lost that Jewish connection. In later adaptations, they became patterned on Scottish people - specifically Scottish miners and engineers. Dwarves now are portrayed as speaking in a Scottish accent, constantly drink beer, and are associated with fantasy steam age technology. None of that is in Tolkien. (Dwarves drink wine, mead, and beer - but so do hobbits and other races.)  Modern dwarves are stereotypically dirty from mining and gruffly drink beer after, which echoes stereotypes of Scottish coal miners.

I think Tolkien's portrayal of dwarves was progressive for its time, especially given the extreme anti-semitism that was rampant in the 1930s when The Hobbit was published. Tolkien hated the Nazis and referred to Jewish people as particularly gifted. His dwarves were heroic, after all. Still, the themes of dwarvish greed for riches would be awkward in modern portrayals if associated with Jews.

Some people deny any connection of fantasy and real-world themes. I think fantasy always has real-world messages, but literary interpretation isn't science. It's rare for any intended message to be clear. If we didn't have Tolkien's letters and interview, the Jewish connection would be far more contentious.