Quote from: THE_Leopold on April 07, 2023, 04:21:41 PM

Quote from: Festus on April 07, 2023, 04:15:39 PM
If WotC is that afraid of looking racist they should just go the full sword & sorcery route and make every PC a human, period. You don't have to emulate Tolkien to have great fantasy adventures. WotC wants to keep all the traditional fantasy races and still make a game that is interesting, lives up to the "it's your world, do what you want" ethos, appeals to a broad audience, and offends no one.

I don't think it's possible, so to some extent they're fucked.

However, I don't think WotC is pushing a woke agenda so much as being afraid of those who are. If tomorrow Chris Cocks got out of bed and no one cared about DEI anymore but millions were demanding buxom wenches in chainmail bikinis, Hasbro would close a deal on the Red Sonja IP by the end of the week. No matter what they say, assuming they have any guiding principle beyond mo' money is a mistake.

The literal furries in the twittersphere would erupt if they can't play their Cat/Sheep human hybrid.

Absolutely. You can't please everyone and offend no one. That they're even trying is why they have chronic foot in mouth disease.

Quote from: Wasteland Sniper on April 07, 2023, 03:48:35 PM
It's like watching them point a loaded .44 right at their foot and pull the trigger. And then do it again, while whining about how awful and racist the fan base is for pointing out their stupidity.

Yep you are right about that.  Meanwhile we get to sit back, enjoy the show and game with normal people.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 07, 2023, 04:21:27 PM
The woketards are about 8% of the population, if it was about making money they would cater to the other 92% which means Buxon Wenches in Chainmail Bikinis would make them more money than catering to the perpetually offended who most of the time are broke or end up not buying your product.

3D printed minis are a very devolved free market, no corporate censorship, and you can check figure popularity to see what buyers want most. One guess. 

Greetings!

I hate to break the idea bubble, but there are far more Woketards than 8%. Probably 50% of the population has been deeply and thoroughly corrupted by Marxist, Woke ideas and propaganda. Regardless of whether many of these people are conscious of it, or admit it. The truth is, they are deeply corrupted by Marxism. So, the Woketards are far more powerful and influential than many people want to admit, or even realize themselves.

As for money being the primary motivation--that too, is old thinking. Many of the Woketard corporate types have admitted that they do not care about money or profits. They have proclaimed that the main priority is CHANGING THE CULTURE, and ESTABLISHING THE NARRATIVE.

So, there is no refuge in assuming they are beholden to traditional dynamics of the marketplace, profits, and money. People have to stop comforting themselves with truisms and nice platitudes from days long ago. The entire society is in a death struggle against globalist Marxists. The battle is ideological, spiritual, and political. For now. Nonetheless, it is a death-struggle for the entire survival of American society.

The continued policies of WOTC are not based upon money. It is about strengthening the narrative, boosting the mongrel Woke hordes, and crushing the enemy. Like Saul Alinsky said, "By any means necessary". These Marxist tyrants and change agents are engaged in a struggle, in total war against anyone and everyone in America that opposes them, or resists their Marxist world view. The clowns at WOTC are doing their part to confuse, demoralize, and corrupt the game hobby, and exert and enforce dynamics of control.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: SHARK on April 07, 2023, 06:04:24 PM
Greetings!

I hate to break the idea bubble, but there are far more Woketards than 8%. Probably 50% of the population has been deeply and thoroughly corrupted by Marxist, Woke ideas and propaganda. Regardless of whether many of these people are conscious of it, or admit it. The truth is, they are deeply corrupted by Marxism. So, the Woketards are far more powerful and influential than many people want to admit, or even realize themselves.

As for money being the primary motivation--that too, is old thinking. Many of the Woketard corporate types have admitted that they do not care about money or profits. They have proclaimed that the main priority is CHANGING THE CULTURE, and ESTABLISHING THE NARRATIVE.

So, there is no refuge in assuming they are beholden to traditional dynamics of the marketplace, profits, and money. People have to stop comforting themselves with truisms and nice platitudes from days long ago. The entire society is in a death struggle against globalist Marxists. The battle is ideological, spiritual, and political. For now. Nonetheless, it is a death-struggle for the entire survival of American society.

The continued policies of WOTC are not based upon money. It is about strengthening the narrative, boosting the mongrel Woke hordes, and crushing the enemy. Like Saul Alinsky said, "By any means necessary". These Marxist tyrants and change agents are engaged in a struggle, in total war against anyone and everyone in America that opposes them, or resists their Marxist world view. The clowns at WOTC are doing their part to confuse, demoralize, and corrupt the game hobby, and exert and enforce dynamics of control.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Then why is it that the latest woke animated shit from Disney tanked? The last two did, if the woketards are 50% it should have done fine or good.

As for the money, remove the ESG funds and you'll see them crumble into dust. It's WHY those funds exist, to use normal people's savings (without asking them) to prop up corporations that aren't profitable.

As for the corpos? Yes, many of them are ideologically driven, but the stock holders aren't, just wait till the first domino collapses.

Grand Wizards of the KKKoast is propped by Hasbro who in turn is propped by the ESG funds. Which is why they managed to infiltrate the corporations.

Quote from: SHARK on April 07, 2023, 06:04:24 PM
Greetings!

I hate to break the idea bubble, but there are far more Woketards than 8%. Probably 50% of the population has been deeply and thoroughly corrupted by Marxist, Woke ideas and propaganda. Regardless of whether many of these people are conscious of it, or admit it. The truth is, they are deeply corrupted by Marxism. So, the Woketards are far more powerful and influential than many people want to admit, or even realize themselves.

As for money being the primary motivation--that too, is old thinking...

The fact that 50%+ of the population holds that mindset, or at least goes along with it, (on this we agree) is precisely why the money motivation is still applicable. However the zeitgeist became what it is, shareholders and the people they hire to maximize their profits will chase it. Corporate execs don't have to "not care about money or profits" to pursue this market. They can get accolades for being enlightened and make money too, regardless of their sincerity or lack thereof.

Quote from: SHARK on April 07, 2023, 06:04:24 PM
Greetings!

I hate to break the idea bubble, but there are far more Woketards than 8%. Probably 50% of the population has been deeply and thoroughly corrupted by Marxist, Woke ideas and propaganda. Regardless of whether many of these people are conscious of it, or admit it. The truth is, they are deeply corrupted by Marxism. So, the Woketards are far more powerful and influential than many people want to admit, or even realize themselves.

As for money being the primary motivation--that too, is old thinking. Many of the Woketard corporate types have admitted that they do not care about money or profits. They have proclaimed that the main priority is CHANGING THE CULTURE, and ESTABLISHING THE NARRATIVE.

So, there is no refuge in assuming they are beholden to traditional dynamics of the marketplace, profits, and money. People have to stop comforting themselves with truisms and nice platitudes from days long ago. The entire society is in a death struggle against globalist Marxists. The battle is ideological, spiritual, and political. For now. Nonetheless, it is a death-struggle for the entire survival of American society.

The continued policies of WOTC are not based upon money. It is about strengthening the narrative, boosting the mongrel Woke hordes, and crushing the enemy. Like Saul Alinsky said, "By any means necessary". These Marxist tyrants and change agents are engaged in a struggle, in total war against anyone and everyone in America that opposes them, or resists their Marxist world view. The clowns at WOTC are doing their part to confuse, demoralize, and corrupt the game hobby, and exert and enforce dynamics of control.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: GamerforHire on April 07, 2023, 09:58:49 PM
Take back shit language like "mongrels" or you deserve the Nazi label those woke nuts slap on you. There is a line, buddy, and you just walked across it.

It's nice when the trolls announce themselves.

Quote from: Zelen on April 07, 2023, 10:06:59 PM

Quote from: GamerforHire on April 07, 2023, 09:58:49 PM
Oh dear God, seriously? "Marxists"? "Mongrels"? You sound like a caricature of a 1950's communist conspiracy nut, or an actual Aryan nationalist. Tone it down, Fritzengruber, or save this level of hyperbole for the Stormfront website forums.

Take back shit language like "mongrels" or you deserve the Nazi label those woke nuts slap on you. There is a line, buddy, and you just walked across it.

It's nice when the trolls announce themselves.

Dude must think he's in TBP where such accusations hold some weight/power.

To bring it back to the topic:

No, 50% of the USA population isn't woke, 1/3 say they are in some polls, but ask them what they mean and you'll find it's not the same.

8% of the population is driving the discussion, the proof is that woke entertainment keeps tanking and they created the ESG to prop up the failing corporations, that well is drying.

Furthermore since it can never be good enough they won't quit while they're ahead, they'll keep pushing and pushing with more idiotic things, which drives more and more people away from them, hell even Bill Maher knows this.

The more woke they inject in D&D the sooner it will collapse, how many revisions by the Kultural Komissars are they going to give their books? It doesn't matter because the perpetually offended will (shocker) find something to be offended by.

They change race to species and make it so you can create any sort of mongrel between them... Well, it's biological essentialism to give them ANY modifier because they are a different species. It's a catch 22, damned if you do and damned if you don't.

The only winning move is to give them the finger.

But since Grand Wizards of the KKKoast is ideologically captured they can't, not unless they fire each and everyone of the activists they hired from both GWotK and Hasbro. Even then they would need the testicular fortitude to stand their ground, but they are soy based lifeforms.

I, as a proud Spaniard/Mayan Mongrel, will not bend the knee, my existence isn't "Intrinsically Racist".

Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 07, 2023, 06:33:28 PM

Then why is it that the latest woke animated shit from Disney tanked? The last two did, if the woketards are 50% it should have done fine or good.

I believe the vast majority of these woke folks pirate the bulk of any media content they consume.

Quote from: Zelen on April 07, 2023, 10:06:59 PM

Quote from: GamerforHire on April 07, 2023, 09:58:49 PM
Take back shit language like "mongrels" or you deserve the Nazi label those woke nuts slap on you. There is a line, buddy, and you just walked across it.

It's nice when the trolls announce themselves.

Greetings!

Great job, Zelen! *Salute* Sir!

I suppose that GamerforHire has somehow missed the videos showing the mugshots of Woke fucking ANTIFA members arrested in places like Portland, Oregon. It doesn't matter though, whether these scum are in New York, Seattle, Portland, Chicago, Sn Francisco, or Los Angeles, or anywhere else. They all look the same. Piercings everywhere, rainbow coloured hair, tattoos everywhere, and all looking like drugged up scum.

Or fucking *MONGRELS*

Somehow I *deserve* the Nazi label that fucking Woke fucking Commie scum mongrels want to give me? I just "walked across" some line?

Not just a Troll, my friend. GamerforHire sounds kind of delusional to me. Maybe also a bit shrill, and...REEEING.

Yeah, look back again at the mugshots of the dozens and dozens, hundreds, of WOKE ANTIFA members. MONGRELS seems like a very appropriate description, certainly to me. When did "Mongrel" become some kind of "STOP! DON'T TOUCH ME THERE, THAT'S MY NO NO SQUARE!" word? *Laughing*

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: Feratu on April 07, 2023, 10:36:41 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 07, 2023, 06:33:28 PM

Then why is it that the latest woke animated shit from Disney tanked? The last two did, if the woketards are 50% it should have done fine or good.

I believe the vast majority of these woke folks pirate the bulk of any media content they consume.

IF they consume it at all, because you can tell they have to furiously google when asked basic shit, hell one told me once that Clark Kent never wore a hat.

Same with D&D, what little they know they grab from ideologically driven youtube channels/podcasts, they don't even know how to use a D%, when they play their "campaigns" last 6 sessions tops.

They pirate the books at best because they don't know the rules inside them (if they have them they haven't read them).

Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 07, 2023, 10:34:07 PM

Quote from: Zelen on April 07, 2023, 10:06:59 PM

Quote from: GamerforHire on April 07, 2023, 09:58:49 PM
Oh dear God, seriously? "Marxists"? "Mongrels"? You sound like a caricature of a 1950's communist conspiracy nut, or an actual Aryan nationalist. Tone it down, Fritzengruber, or save this level of hyperbole for the Stormfront website forums.

Take back shit language like "mongrels" or you deserve the Nazi label those woke nuts slap on you. There is a line, buddy, and you just walked across it.

It's nice when the trolls announce themselves.

Dude must think he's in TBP where such accusations hold some weight/power.

To bring it back to the topic:

No, 50% of the USA population isn't woke, 1/3 say they are in some polls, but ask them what they mean and you'll find it's not the same.

8% of the population is driving the discussion, the proof is that woke entertainment keeps tanking and they created the ESG to prop up the failing corporations, that well is drying.

Furthermore since it can never be good enough they won't quit while they're ahead, they'll keep pushing and pushing with more idiotic things, which drives more and more people away from them, hell even Bill Maher knows this.

The more woke they inject in D&D the sooner it will collapse, how many revisions by the Kultural Komissars are they going to give their books? It doesn't matter because the perpetually offended will (shocker) find something to be offended by.

They change race to species and make it so you can create any sort of mongrel between them... Well, it's biological essentialism to give them ANY modifier because they are a different species. It's a catch 22, damned if you do and damned if you don't.

The only winning move is to give them the finger.

But since Grand Wizards of the KKKoast is ideologically captured they can't, not unless they fire each and everyone of the activists they hired from both GWotK and Hasbro. Even then they would need the testicular fortitude to stand their ground, but they are soy based lifeforms.

I, as a proud Spaniard/Mayan Mongrel, will not bend the knee, my existence isn't "Intrinsically Racist".

Greetings!

Preach it, HERMANO! Some mongrels are good!

It is so pathetic that WOTKKK are so racist that mixed race characters are viewed by them as being "inherently racist". The stupid train just doesn't stop with these morons.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 07, 2023, 04:21:27 PM

Quote from: Festus on April 07, 2023, 04:15:39 PM
If WotC is that afraid of looking racist they should just go the full sword & sorcery route and make every PC a human, period. You don't have to emulate Tolkien to have great fantasy adventures. WotC wants to keep all the traditional fantasy races and still make a game that is interesting, lives up to the "it's your world, do what you want" ethos, appeals to a broad audience, and offends no one.

I don't think it's possible, so to some extent they're fucked.

However, I don't think WotC is pushing a woke agenda so much as being afraid of those who are. If tomorrow Chris Cocks got out of bed and no one cared about DEI anymore but millions were demanding buxom wenches in chainmail bikinis, Hasbro would close a deal on the Red Sonja IP by the end of the week. No matter what they say, assuming they have any guiding principle beyond mo' money is a mistake.

The woketards are about 8% of the population, if it was about making money they would cater to the other 92% which means Buxon Wenches in Chainmail Bikinis would make them more money than catering to the perpetually offended who most of the time are broke or end up not buying your product.

I worry that the 8% has quietly doubled since the start of the big bad orange man.

But you are dead on. The first company with the balls to do it, that really figures out how to market, it will reap the benefit.

Quote from: FingerRod on April 07, 2023, 10:50:20 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 07, 2023, 04:21:27 PM

Quote from: Festus on April 07, 2023, 04:15:39 PM
If WotC is that afraid of looking racist they should just go the full sword & sorcery route and make every PC a human, period. You don't have to emulate Tolkien to have great fantasy adventures. WotC wants to keep all the traditional fantasy races and still make a game that is interesting, lives up to the "it's your world, do what you want" ethos, appeals to a broad audience, and offends no one.

I don't think it's possible, so to some extent they're fucked.

However, I don't think WotC is pushing a woke agenda so much as being afraid of those who are. If tomorrow Chris Cocks got out of bed and no one cared about DEI anymore but millions were demanding buxom wenches in chainmail bikinis, Hasbro would close a deal on the Red Sonja IP by the end of the week. No matter what they say, assuming they have any guiding principle beyond mo' money is a mistake.

The woketards are about 8% of the population, if it was about making money they would cater to the other 92% which means Buxon Wenches in Chainmail Bikinis would make them more money than catering to the perpetually offended who most of the time are broke or end up not buying your product.

I worry that the 8% has quietly doubled since the start of the big bad orange man.

But you are dead on. The first company with the balls to do it, that really figures out how to market, it will reap the benefit.

Marketing is the key, keep an eye open for when I announce my Pulp Sci-Fi game is ready.