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Hasbro's D&D Goes Full Klan, Bans Race Mixing?

Started by RPGPundit, April 06, 2023, 03:47:01 PM

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At the D&D "creator summit", Jeremy Crawford revealed that Half-Elves and Half-Orcs will no longer be allowed in D&D, and stated that these sort of mixed race characters are "inherently racist". Here I try to explain why they believe the same thing the Klan does.  #dnd5e #dndbeyond #vtt 
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These idiots at WOTC are just digging themselves deeper in the hole with this woke BS.
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Quote from: Banjo Destructo on April 06, 2023, 04:36:28 PM
Ryan Long did the video you're thinking of.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev373c7wSRg

Yes, I just couldn't remember his name. He's great.
A lot of people in the comments rushed in to provide the name for me, which means I can continue to be half-senile with impunity!

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Kerstmanneke82

If mixing races and thus taking a mix of racial abilities is racist, then it is only a matter of time until racial abilities themselves will be considered racist as well. Look at fixed ability increases... Used to be it was a given, not disputed, that the standard Dwarf was tougher than the standard elf, period. Not anymore so. So why wouldn't they, in time, find the fact that as a Dwarf you are more resistant to poison, racist?

GhostNinja

Quote from: Kerstmanneke82 on April 07, 2023, 08:37:35 AM
If mixing races and thus taking a mix of racial abilities is racist, then it is only a matter of time until racial abilities themselves will be considered racist as well. Look at fixed ability increases... Used to be it was a given, not disputed, that the standard Dwarf was tougher than the standard elf, period. Not anymore so. So why wouldn't they, in time, find the fact that as a Dwarf you are more resistant to poison, racist?

Good question.  And if if has been a problem for so long where are they just now getting to "fixing" the issues instead of doing it when they were putting out 5e?

Because the SWJ's got to them and they are bending to them, although the SJW's don't even play D&D
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GamerforHire

Quote from: Kerstmanneke82 on April 07, 2023, 08:37:35 AM
If mixing races and thus taking a mix of racial abilities is racist, then it is only a matter of time until racial abilities themselves will be considered racist as well. Look at fixed ability increases... Used to be it was a given, not disputed, that the standard Dwarf was tougher than the standard elf, period. Not anymore so. So why wouldn't they, in time, find the fact that as a Dwarf you are more resistant to poison, racist?

I thought they already believed racial (excuse me, "specie") attributes were racist? At least some are, and maybe some aren't yet? (Which makes no sense.) I know giving males of a race a strength bonus, with an offsetting Dexterity bonus or whatever for a female character, is sexist. I also thought everyone was getting their own version of dark vision because having different eyesight is racist.

I miss my huge tables from Arduin Trilogy, with every crazy possible player character race getting its own range of scores for every attribute.

GhostNinja

Seems like WOTC didn't follow Robert Downey Jr's advice.

Never go full retard.
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The Spaniard

Just when you think they're out of WTF moments, they come up with this beauty.  The funny thing is, that mutt Crawford doesn't even realize how racist and condescending he is.  Good grief...

GhostNinja

Quote from: The Spaniard on April 07, 2023, 01:34:11 PM
Just when you think they're out of WTF moments, they come up with this beauty.  The funny thing is, that mutt Crawford doesn't even realize how racist and condescending he is.  Good grief...

I can't wait to see what they do next.   It's free entertainment from the people at WOTC.
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VisionStorm

Quote from: Kerstmanneke82 on April 07, 2023, 08:37:35 AM
If mixing races and thus taking a mix of racial abilities is racist, then it is only a matter of time until racial abilities themselves will be considered racist as well. Look at fixed ability increases... Used to be it was a given, not disputed, that the standard Dwarf was tougher than the standard elf, period. Not anymore so. So why wouldn't they, in time, find the fact that as a Dwarf you are more resistant to poison, racist?

I remember seeing some people voice views to that effect (in Twatter, I believe) around the time they announced the D&Done playtest and it came out that they were dropping racial modifiers and changing the word "race" to "species".

It's. NEVER. Good. Enough.  ;)

Wasteland Sniper

Quote from: GhostNinja on April 07, 2023, 01:35:49 PM
Quote from: The Spaniard on April 07, 2023, 01:34:11 PM
Just when you think they're out of WTF moments, they come up with this beauty.  The funny thing is, that mutt Crawford doesn't even realize how racist and condescending he is.  Good grief...

I can't wait to see what they do next.   It's free entertainment from the people at WOTC.
It's like watching them point a loaded .44 right at their foot and pull the trigger. And then do it again, while whining about how awful and racist the fan base is for pointing out their stupidity.

Festus

If WotC is that afraid of looking racist they should just go the full sword & sorcery route and make every PC a human, period. You don't have to emulate Tolkien to have great fantasy adventures. WotC wants to keep all the traditional fantasy races and still make a game that is interesting, lives up to the "it's your world, do what you want" ethos, appeals to a broad audience, and offends no one.

I don't think it's possible, so to some extent they're fucked.

However, I don't think WotC is pushing a woke agenda so much as being afraid of those who are. If tomorrow Chris Cocks got out of bed and no one cared about DEI anymore but millions were demanding buxom wenches in chainmail bikinis, Hasbro would close a deal on the Red Sonja IP by the end of the week. No matter what they say, assuming they have any guiding principle beyond mo' money is a mistake.

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GeekyBugle

Quote from: Festus on April 07, 2023, 04:15:39 PM
If WotC is that afraid of looking racist they should just go the full sword & sorcery route and make every PC a human, period. You don't have to emulate Tolkien to have great fantasy adventures. WotC wants to keep all the traditional fantasy races and still make a game that is interesting, lives up to the "it's your world, do what you want" ethos, appeals to a broad audience, and offends no one.

I don't think it's possible, so to some extent they're fucked.

However, I don't think WotC is pushing a woke agenda so much as being afraid of those who are. If tomorrow Chris Cocks got out of bed and no one cared about DEI anymore but millions were demanding buxom wenches in chainmail bikinis, Hasbro would close a deal on the Red Sonja IP by the end of the week. No matter what they say, assuming they have any guiding principle beyond mo' money is a mistake.

The woketards are about 8% of the population, if it was about making money they would cater to the other 92% which means Buxon Wenches in Chainmail Bikinis would make them more money than catering to the perpetually offended who most of the time are broke or end up not buying your product.
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THE_Leopold

Quote from: Festus on April 07, 2023, 04:15:39 PM
If WotC is that afraid of looking racist they should just go the full sword & sorcery route and make every PC a human, period. You don't have to emulate Tolkien to have great fantasy adventures. WotC wants to keep all the traditional fantasy races and still make a game that is interesting, lives up to the "it's your world, do what you want" ethos, appeals to a broad audience, and offends no one.

I don't think it's possible, so to some extent they're fucked.

However, I don't think WotC is pushing a woke agenda so much as being afraid of those who are. If tomorrow Chris Cocks got out of bed and no one cared about DEI anymore but millions were demanding buxom wenches in chainmail bikinis, Hasbro would close a deal on the Red Sonja IP by the end of the week. No matter what they say, assuming they have any guiding principle beyond mo' money is a mistake.

The literal furries in the twittersphere would erupt if they can't play their Cat/Sheep human hybrid.
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