Kyle Brink was specifically complaining about diversity among the D&D designer group, a group of 7 total people in the U.S. with that job.

This is 1) in the Magic the Gathering group, 2) in Latin America, and 3) not in that small discreet group he was complaining about.

But you go on with your disingenuous click-baity self Pundit. Par for the course. And yet somehow, your videos still don't get a meaningful number of clicks while guys like Tenkar, with the same kind of audience, do. I wonder why? Could it be Tenkar isn't constantly disingenuous and click-baity and, let's face it, boring as fuck with an image of your cat or the same small set of friggen books rather than a human being talking and engaging with their audience? I mean dang dude, video is for VIDEO. Do a podcast if you don't like the camera.

Quote from: honeydipperdavid on February 15, 2023, 03:32:53 PM




WotC decided to chase wokebucks due to the 2020 riots, that is when corporate got scared of the fascists and did what they were told.  Well lets make WotC commit suicide and follow the leftards rules.  If it would take one person a week to write 20 pages, then lets make it require 5 people a week to do 20 pages with sensitivity writers and political commisars and additional diversity hires.  Just bitch non-stop on social media with sock puppets.  When you can get streaming sites to cover D&D's decline into woke nonsense.  If you go to a local hobby shop, casually mention if they think they'll see a decline in D&D sales with D&D now bundling the book and D&D beyond bundle.  Get the hobby shop owners to turn on D&D because D&D is eating their lunch.  The left got WotC to turn on its customer base, ok what do you think will happen to WotC when their actual customers turn on them?

Truth be told, WotC has been chasing wokebucks from the beginning. Take a look at a letter someone (one of the members here? ) sent Dragon Magazine in feb 2001:



A couple months later another reader sent a response letter, angrily saying WotC isn't shoving a political agenda down the throats of the gamers...

Quote from: zer0th on February 15, 2023, 04:15:35 PM
Dragão Brasil (Brazilian RPG magazine, totally not-Dragon magazine :wink:) also used to have a thing or two about Brazilian folklore transported to RPG. At least, before they went all-in with the weaboo stuff, including Defensores de Tóquio (the game the Pundit mentions being about mechas, I believe) and even Tormenta: the Brazilian-version of the anime-version of D&D-style fantasy.

Tormenta had a LOT of derivative stuff, but they had a couple of nice ideas here and there. Too bad Trevisan went full woketard.

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Quote from: Mistwell on February 15, 2023, 04:48:53 PM
Kyle Brink was specifically complaining about diversity among the D&D designer group, a group of 7 total people in the U.S. with that job.

This is 1) in the Magic the Gathering group, 2) in Latin America, and 3) not in that small discreet group he was complaining about.

But you go on with your disingenuous click-baity self Pundit. Par for the course. And yet somehow, your videos still don't get a meaningful number of clicks while guys like Tenkar, with the same kind of audience, do. I wonder why? Could it be Tenkar isn't constantly disingenuous and click-baity and, let's face it, boring as fuck with an image of your cat or the same small set of friggen books rather than a human being talking and engaging with their audience? I mean dang dude, video is for VIDEO. Do a podcast if you don't like the camera.

Twitter bots would beg to differ.

Quote from: Mistwell on February 15, 2023, 04:48:53 PM
Kyle Brink was specifically complaining about diversity among the D&D designer group, a group of 7 total people in the U.S. with that job.

The interviewers were asking about diversity among senior WoTC personnel, wanting more non-whites in senior positions. Brink segued that into saying white guys like him were leaving the workforce, D&D players were no longer white neckbeards in the basement, & whites couldn't leave 'the hobby' fast enough for him. AFAICT neither he nor they said anything about D&D designers specfically.

Quote from: S'mon on February 15, 2023, 05:27:52 PM

Quote from: Mistwell on February 15, 2023, 04:48:53 PM
Kyle Brink was specifically complaining about diversity among the D&D designer group, a group of 7 total people in the U.S. with that job.

The interviewers were asking about diversity among senior WoTC personnel, wanting more non-whites in senior positions. Brink segued that into saying white guys like him were leaving the workforce, D&D players were no longer white neckbeards in the basement, & whites couldn't leave 'the hobby' fast enough for him. AFAICT neither he nor they said anything about D&D designers specfically.

I reposted the transcript again on the earlier thread about Pundit's video about the interview.

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/dd-boss-says-white-guys-need-to-leave-dd/msg1244355/#msg1244355

S'mon, the specific statement is "guys like me can't leave soon enough for this hobby". It seems you misheard that as "leave the hobby" - which is what you quote, but he says "leave for this hobby".

All of his previous statements and following statements are about the 100% white male WotC management. So I read that as "It would be better for this hobby if guys like me would leave the workforce."

According to him, the player base is already diverse, and the problem is that the management doesn't reflect the player base.

I don't believe him, but I think that is what he was trying to claim.

Quote from: ZeroZero on February 15, 2023, 01:29:41 PM
Oh, no! Anyway...

Indeed!  It saves so much energy this way. No tables to flip and then upright over and over again.

WotC: I did a thing!
People: 
WotC: Aren't you going to give me 'engagement'?
People: 
WOtC: But my Parrot Analytics are going to go down! 
People: 
WotC: If people don't talk about me, do I even exist? Hold me I'm scared!
People: 

Quote from: jhkim on February 15, 2023, 06:09:01 PM

Quote from: S'mon on February 15, 2023, 05:27:52 PM

Quote from: Mistwell on February 15, 2023, 04:48:53 PM
Kyle Brink was specifically complaining about diversity among the D&D designer group, a group of 7 total people in the U.S. with that job.

The interviewers were asking about diversity among senior WoTC personnel, wanting more non-whites in senior positions. Brink segued that into saying white guys like him were leaving the workforce, D&D players were no longer white neckbeards in the basement, & whites couldn't leave 'the hobby' fast enough for him. AFAICT neither he nor they said anything about D&D designers specfically.

I reposted the transcript again on the earlier thread about Pundit's video about the interview.

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/dd-boss-says-white-guys-need-to-leave-dd/msg1244355/#msg1244355

S'mon, the specific statement is "guys like me can't leave soon enough for this hobby". It seems you misheard that as "leave the hobby" - which is what you quote, but he says "leave for this hobby".

All of his previous statements and following statements are about the 100% white male WotC management. So I read that as "It would be better for this hobby if guys like me would leave the workforce."

According to him, the player base is already diverse, and the problem is that the management doesn't reflect the player base.

I don't believe him, but I think that is what he was trying to claim.

"It would be better for this hobby if (insert any group except white straight men) would leave the workforce"

Do you see the problem now? If you don't then there's no hope for you.

Quote from: honeydipperdavid on February 15, 2023, 11:41:03 AM
I just like seeing the DNDBeyond Forums going off about how its racist of Wotc shutting down the Brazilian HQ.  Anything that causes harm to WotC image with the wokesters I'm all for.  I would love to see D&D burned down to the ground from a profitability perspective and force Hasbro to sell the brand.  Just about any other company could put out better content than Hasbro/WotC.  The staff for D&D is cut to the bone and they hire diversity commissars to police speech meaning at best D&D can put out one crap book a quarter of questionable quality and use.

The only thread on DDB about this is full of resident woke clowns defending WotC and making excuse after excuse for the closure of their presence in Brazil. The only dissenting voices are a couple of Brazilians talking about how it will mean less local support for the hobby and more expensive imported books.

By all means laugh at idiots who find racism in everything, but there is no need to make things up.

Those forums might be crawling with leftist twits but they are leftist twits so in the thrall of WotC they defended them throughout the whole OGL debacle and just double down on defending them no matter how poor their actions.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 15, 2023, 08:16:54 PM

Quote from: jhkim on February 15, 2023, 06:09:01 PM
I reposted the transcript again on the earlier thread about Pundit's video about the interview.

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/dd-boss-says-white-guys-need-to-leave-dd/msg1244355/#msg1244355

S'mon, the specific statement is "guys like me can't leave soon enough for this hobby". It seems you misheard that as "leave the hobby" - which is what you quote, but he says "leave for this hobby".

All of his previous statements and following statements are about the 100% white male WotC management. So I read that as "It would be better for this hobby if guys like me would leave the workforce."

"It would be better for this hobby if (insert any group except white straight men) would leave the workforce"

Do you see the problem now? If you don't then there's no hope for you.

GeekyBugle, I've claimed always claimed this as a problem. My point was that S'mon claims Brink saying that white male players should be leaving the hobby, as opposed to white male managers leaving the WotC workforce.

Both of these are problems, but they are different problems.

I'm opposed to WotC, but I think it's important to be accurate about what they are doing that's wrong.

Everybody knows that if you want less Whites in the hobby, the first thing you do is kick out the Brazilians.

Science!

Quote from: jhkim on February 16, 2023, 12:32:24 AM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 15, 2023, 08:16:54 PM

Quote from: jhkim on February 15, 2023, 06:09:01 PM
I reposted the transcript again on the earlier thread about Pundit's video about the interview.

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/dd-boss-says-white-guys-need-to-leave-dd/msg1244355/#msg1244355

S'mon, the specific statement is "guys like me can't leave soon enough for this hobby". It seems you misheard that as "leave the hobby" - which is what you quote, but he says "leave for this hobby".

All of his previous statements and following statements are about the 100% white male WotC management. So I read that as "It would be better for this hobby if guys like me would leave the workforce."

"It would be better for this hobby if (insert any group except white straight men) would leave the workforce"

Do you see the problem now? If you don't then there's no hope for you.

GeekyBugle, I've claimed always claimed this as a problem. My point was that S'mon claims Brink saying that white male players should be leaving the hobby, as opposed to white male managers leaving the WotC workforce.

Both of these are problems, but they are different problems.

I'm opposed to WotC, but I think it's important to be accurate about what they are doing that's wrong.

WotC is discriminating against white straight men, I say that's racist AND sexist. So, a corporation that discriminates against whites MIGHT still want the money of the white customer, doesn't mean the corporation doesn't hate them, just that they love the green more.

If they were discriminating against say Asians, in hiring, would you say that's a sign they hate you too?

Quote from: Spinachcat on February 16, 2023, 12:52:57 AM
Everybody knows that if you want less Whites in the hobby, the first thing you do is kick out the Brazilians.

Science!

Would you be surprised to know that most rpg players in Brazil are white males? (Well, white as in "of European descent"; not /pol/ white.) Even in a country with a bit over 50% of the population being non-white like Brazil, rpg started as a white male middle-class teenager thing, and only slowly people from other social groups joined.

Quote from: Mistwell on February 15, 2023, 04:48:53 PM

But you go on with your disingenuous click-baity self Mistwell.

Fixed it for you.

I can't help the schadenfreude of watching a company that fucked up a great game now whining because they are busy alienating their largest customer demographic, the straight white male.

Quote from: zer0th on February 15, 2023, 04:15:35 PM

Quote from: Wtrmute on February 15, 2023, 02:33:52 PM
[...] adventuring in Colonial Brazil with magic and creatures from folklore [...]

Dragão Brasil (Brazilian RPG magazine, totally not-Dragon magazine :wink:) also used to have a thing or two about Brazilian folklore transported to RPG. At least, before they went all-in with the weaboo stuff, including Defensores de Tóquio (the game the Pundit mentions being about mechas, I believe) and even Tormenta: the Brazilian-version of the anime-version of D&D-style fantasy.

Which they did because those two were HUGELY more popular than RPGs about Brazil.